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Offline chuggers

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« 2015-Jun-08, 06:36 PM Reply #500 »
NSW forumite....gotta be Rats...

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« 2015-Jun-08, 06:37 PM Reply #501 »
That would have been about a 13k collect for the win.....ouch

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« 2015-Jun-08, 07:04 PM Reply #502 »
Chuggs my boy well done yes it was Rats and yes the collect theoretically could have been $13k.....


Rats is currently being kept away from bridges and tall buildings

We'll have a parlay ourselves Sat at Ipswich Chuggs , well done

Commiserations Rats, but as we said getting closer to as big 'un

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« 2015-Jun-08, 07:33 PM Reply #503 »
Rats,

Are you here.....do you need therapy .....can you think of the "what could of happened"...I have salt....Ouch....
Mate...onwards...cry no more...it will happen...I will ensure that you will share in Spuddas  parlay..from my share....

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« 2015-Jun-08, 08:20 PM Reply #504 »
yes im here    :biggrin:

nice bet    :biggrin:

chuck me in for $10 spudda , we will go thirds    emthup

could turn it into hmmmmmmmmmmm   13K

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« 2015-Jun-12, 08:35 PM Reply #505 »
Righto Chuggs, Rats, give me your best two place chances for tomorrow please-one selection of your two must be in Ipswich horses

I'll add in a fifth

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« 2015-Jun-12, 09:45 PM Reply #506 »
Righto Chuggs, Rats, give me your best two place chances for tomorrow please-one selection of your two must be in Ipswich horses

I'll add in a fifth

goodo mate

whats the cut off time ?

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« 2015-Jun-12, 09:46 PM Reply #507 »
anytime with enough notice before the first race we bet on - you have my number if need be

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« 2015-Jun-12, 10:36 PM Reply #508 »
  emthup

no worries , more worried about chuggs   ;)

give him a nudge    emthup

i will text mine through by 10

gotta go then , to the races     :biggrin:

to watch my horse run 4th   :shrug:

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« 2015-Jun-13, 02:41 PM Reply #509 »
Righto took both of yours for all a win and all a place- still have $10 to play with - any suggestions?

No.   Selections   Event   Event Date   Odds   Bet Type   Result
1   Darragh (16)   Race 9 Flemington
(Win)   13/06/2015   26.00   Fixed Win   To Run
2   Hosting (4)   Race 8 Flemington
(Win)   13/06/2015   13.00   Fixed Win   To Run
3   Riva De Lago (2)   Race 7 Ipswich
(Win)   13/06/2015   5.50   Fixed Win   To Run
4   Sister Emma (12)   Race 8 Ipswich
(Win)   13/06/2015   12.00   Fixed Win   To Run
Multiples
Bet Type   No of Bets   Unit Stake   Stake   To Return   Returns
4 Folds   1   10.00   10.00   223,080.00   

No.   Selections   Event   Event Date   Odds   Bet Type   Result
1   Riva De Lago (2)   Race 7 Ipswich
(Place)   13/06/2015   2.00   Fixed Place
(3 Places)   To Run
2   Sister Emma (12)   Race 8 Ipswich
(Place)   13/06/2015   3.40   Fixed Place
(3 Places)   To Run
3   Hosting (4)   Race 8 Flemington
(Place)   13/06/2015   3.50   Fixed Place
(3 Places)   To Run
4   Darragh (16)   Race 9 Flemington
(Place)   13/06/2015   5.50   Fixed Place
(3 Places)   To Run
Multiples
Bet Type   No of Bets   Unit Stake   Stake   To Return   Returns
4 Folds   1   10.00   10.00   1,309.00

Offline Gintara

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« 2018-Nov-25, 11:02 AM Reply #510 »
Bet365 have the best software when it comes to parlay betting.

Multiple horses in a race, win or place mixed up, multi venues, even multi days is ok.

Having given up quaddies I've taken up nine race place parlays instead.

Really enjoy these unfolding on the day.

Have a go and post your parlays.

See how it goes .....

I have a management spreadsheet for these that can handle up to nine race parlays, if you want a copy let me know.

I've been revisiting some multi betting over the carnival with moderate success  :shy:  I've switched from place to win bets and have been taking from 6 to 9 selections.

I think my problem lies in my staking  :chin:  Previously I was taking a similar stake across all bets and while I might hit a number of winners for a return I was slowly leaking funds.

Am I better to raise my stake to the lower bets (trebles is where I start) and minimize the higher combos?

Yesterday I had 8 legs - 4 winners, two 2nds  :shutup: , one 4th & a scr. Which managed to treble my outlay.

Am I on the right track?  :chin:

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« 2018-Nov-25, 11:18 AM Reply #511 »
Gintara,

Firstly have regard to their maximum payout rules - always an issue with the corps. No point getting 6 out of  6 winners for a given series if they will only pay you on 4 effectively!

That alone may reduce your outlay but in general terms your stake for ANY given bet should pay attention to your strike rate for that bet and funds of the bank(s).

Its far more work but NOT doing the parlays but working out your bet % on each individual race and betting them alone can make a big difference to your strike rate. Here is how  :-

At the moment your 2nds mean 0 return for a lot of of the parlays - by covering exactas with a % of each bet you can turn these into 1 ( or more ) instead of NIL.

For a formula 3 parlay on 4 races just one 2nd and 3 wins mean you get 1 dividend only instead of 4 when you cover 2nd. Do the math and see the difference this 'insurance' makes. Of course you now also get 4 out of 4 too.

 Fours
ps risk % to cover 2nd depends on the odds of your selection(s) but you should manage to keep it well under 20%. You can make that well under 20% if you do trifectas but the work and skill requirements go up. -())=(


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« 2018-Nov-27, 07:31 AM Reply #512 »
On covering 2nd with an exacta bet(s),

We have all heard how jfc has 100's of tickets if not 5000 on occasion but the small punter does not need to do anything like that to achieve results not so far off his for accuracy of returns.

A few key assumptions need to be made however. Gintara's strike rate suggests his selections are easily inside the top 6 in betting ( probably top 2 ) and you should all know that the top 6 in betting account for over 80% of all winners. This gives us an idea of exacta returns AND what is required to cover most exacta outcomes for 2nd. A punter can cover a total $10 bet quite well for just $2 out of that $10 by writing just 4 50c tickets in a typical market using market order and assuming your parlay selection is the favourite or 1 :-

2,3,4,5/1
2,3,4,6/1
2,3,4/1
2,3,5/1

2 and 3 winning provide 58.33% of the exacta dividend
4 provides 41.66%
5 provides 29.16%
6 provides 12.5%

So just 4 tickets gives us weighted returns to the likely price and a good chance of getting our stake back.

You can cover even smaller outlays than $10 but your % returns get harder to ensure the return of your stake.

Keep in mind that not all markets are the same and you will need to adjust this base to suit a given market. For example :-

Platinum Angel ran 2nd to Belsonic last Saturday and the exacta paid $22.20. The shape of the market clearly showed that there were 4 main chances to beat it much the same in price so the $2 could be done with just 1 ticket and you could drop the 6th in market order as well.  This means you would have 50% of the exacta dividend of $22.50 returning $11.25 per total $10.00 bet. Other combos may have returned a little under $10.00 so it even out in the long run.

Sure it's more work but do you want to get 4 out of 4 in your parlays and 4 dividends or just 3 out of 4 and 1 return. Doing them as individual bets also means you can change things when a storm hits half way through the day or a horse gets scratched.

Fours
« Last Edit: 2018-Nov-27, 07:38 AM by fours »


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