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« 2017-Sep-09, 03:42 PM Reply #775 »
Just heard this Crownbet AFL offer

"Place a Head to Head bet on any game in AFL Finals Week 1 and if your team win, you'll get $1 in Bonus Bets for every point they win by"

Can't find any more details.

So all you need to do is back both teams for a very healthy collect?

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« 2017-Sep-09, 05:33 PM Reply #776 »
Only applies to your first bet on each nominated match

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« 2017-Sep-09, 05:43 PM Reply #777 »
So form your own gang to play both sides.

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« 2017-Sep-12, 05:38 PM Reply #778 »
I find in some of the early prices there are significant differences

I see there will be ZERO Bonuses/Offers from June next year......on account of "problem gamblers"

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« 2017-Sep-16, 11:06 AM Reply #779 »
Was one Corp offering $2 for Winx to place today? Top Betta maybe?

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« 2017-Sep-25, 08:33 AM Reply #780 »
All,

I see that Ladborkes are advertising that they are "up for the challenge' which to me is misleading or false advertising if they limit or refuse bets to any customers.

The meaning of 'up for the challenge' is very clear.

If they are not in fact up for the challenge then a case can be made against them.

I don't bet with them so its not my fight but others might be interested. Of course they will refer to their small print terms and conditions - but given the boldness of the advertising its not a good look.

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« 2017-Sep-25, 02:22 PM Reply #781 »
Ladbrokes are also offering $2 for Dusty to win by 2+ votes, shame there's a $20 limit but I do bet with them & I have taken the bet
Übet are also offering value bets on the hour between midday & 6 tonight

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« 2017-Sep-25, 03:00 PM Reply #782 »
All,

I see that Ladborkes are advertising that they are "up for the challenge' which to me is misleading or false advertising if they limit or refuse bets to any customers.

The meaning of 'up for the challenge' is very clear.

If they are not in fact up for the challenge then a case can be made against them.

I don't bet with them so its not my fight but others might be interested. Of course they will refer to their small print terms and conditions - but given the boldness of the advertising its not a good look.

Fours
I only thought the same when I tried to put $100 on a horse @$3.40 and they said I could have $54 on it.They stood to lose $129.60.They must shudder in their boots when I want to win $240.   :lol:     :lol:  
BTW everyone of the offers that all corporates offer are "come ons" to get you on their books. "If your team leads by 24 points and they will payout even if they lose upto a limit of $50 bet". Just think I could have $50 @ $1.60 on Adelaide in the GF and win $30. :no1: Although if you take advantage of their "generous" offers  too many times you will no longer be deemed a recreational punter and will be restricted in placing further bets on those promotional offers.
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« 2017-Sep-25, 03:35 PM Reply #783 »
I hear that ex-pornography king , Dean Shannon is about to launch another one of these rogue "corporate " bookmaking firms. Apparently it is called " Neds" and will be based in Brisbane.  Probably named after a criminal  ; how appropriate.


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« 2017-Nov-07, 02:30 PM Reply #785 »
Reckon Antitab's mob might be having a sit down with the IT people after the race. This is what I got on the screen  ;)



They need a network savvy person like moi to monitor application performance. Programmers are hopeless   :lol:

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« 2017-Nov-07, 08:09 PM Reply #786 »
Reckon Antitab's mob might be having a sit down with the IT people after the race. This is what I got on the screen  ;)



They need a network savvy person like moi to monitor application performance. Programmers are hopeless   :lol:

More likely too scared to take a bet  :/ They are nothing but a myth  emthdown  :bye:

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« 2017-Nov-07, 08:25 PM Reply #787 »
a mate of mine     :chin:        :biggrin:

gets bonus bets from them all the time

he punts worse than me        :o

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« 2017-Nov-07, 09:05 PM Reply #788 »
They only want suckers Rats  :shutup:

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« 2017-Nov-07, 09:19 PM Reply #789 »
They only want suckers Rats  :shutup:

Don't want to tell my mate    :shutup:

he doesn't take bad news well       :biggrin:

he thought hartnell was gunna run the distance today

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« 2017-Nov-08, 08:50 AM Reply #790 »
Dominic has been interviewed on Melbourne radio. He was called  by Tabcorp 15 minutes prior to the race, thus he had little time to transfer that $125,000 into any Betfair  account or get an uber out to the track, let alone what horse to select, further,  he is currently unemployed , so might have a bit of trouble getting that ready together even jfc was contactable at such short notice.

Let's shift the saga of lucky Dominic to a more relevant thread.

I try to prepare for such contingencies by having enough money in my accounts.

It is incredible how bad Tabcorp PR continues to be, I immediately flip to another channel whenever that incessant dorky ad plays.

Tabcorp should have contacted Dominic nearly 3 hours before the Cup. That way there would have been 3 hours of highly lucrative buzz around the nation.

Even time for a TV crew to film Dominic's reaction throughout at his local TAB outlet, or get him to Flemington.

Paris could then have presented him with the oversized cheque, and they could celebrate by drinking champagne out of his Ugg boots.

And dole beneficiaries gambling? The seemliness of that compares with Bob Hawke's efforts to encourage cricket crowds to get drunk and lift the king hit death toll at the nearby Cross.



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« 2017-Nov-08, 02:35 PM Reply #791 »
Sharing a legitimate horrific experience with Palmerbet which I was told if I was to do, they reserve the right for legal action for slander, but Grant, if you actually knew the meaning of slander, then you'd know it meant the actions of making a false claim to damage reputation, so here is the TRUTHFUL version of events of our experience.

As a male, I have accounts with all bookmakers, I bet under my own name and only my name.
I have a partner, she also enjoys a flutter on greyhounds and horses, especially around this time of the year, she picks numbers, names and colours, doesn't bet any other time.

We found a handy $500 deposit match with Palmerbet to get set up before Cup day for her on Tuesday which she was more than happy to do, it seemed like a fair deal, so without looking online at their reputation (we should have prior to joining) she created an account and made a $500 deposit.

As soon as the deposit was made, a $500 bonus appeared.
All going smoothly thus far.

She then picked her fav number in the next race which happened to be Sunshine Coast Race 7 #2 Whodunnit which was $2.30 and wagered the bonus bet on this horse because I told her, you might as well just have a throw at the stumps with the free bet and see if you can get some extra play money for cup day, so she did!

We watched the race and cheered together (I also backed it with Ladbrokes) and the horse won easily.

After the race was resulted we had found Palmerbet to have cancelled the bonus bet, so we made enquiries as to what had happened and was told by Grant the director that the account was not entitled to a bonus bet as the account was not actually being used by my partner and is a duplicate account.

Grant was very rude on the phone, swearing and insulting me continuously as I was trying to be reasonable to come to a mutual agreement, all the while being recorded as evidence.

I then advised in email a very reasonable request to have the original $500 refunded to the bank account and for the account to be closed as we didn't want to deal with their business or the $650 in winnings from the bonus bet to be paid to the account as per bonus bet rules, as my partner would prefer to bet elsewhere if they weren't going to pay up.

Grant continued to refuse to budge on either, so I advised a complaint to Racing NSW and OLGR would be made, he then threatened me with lawyers and to not email him again.

An hour later I sent an email outlining that the complaint had been made and that I would pursue the matter on principle for their deceptive conduct in cancelling a winning bet after it had resulted.

He then emailed me back wanting me to call him, I advised that it was well past a phone call now, as I had tried to come to an agreement earlier in the night, so I told him it's now in the hands of the relevant bodies to decide the outcome.

It's been a stressful night, all over $150 in additional pay out from Palmerbet, I wasn't going to be bullied by this corporate who thinks they have 1 set of rules and punters must just sit back and do what they are told. So, I wont rest, because it seems like hundreds of disgruntled punters have had issues with these guys in the past.

I also advised that the bank would be contacted tomorrow to put a hold of the Poli deposit while the dispute is in the hands of Racing NSW and Grant told me he would call the police and get the funds as he has done 3 times this year already.

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« 2017-Nov-08, 08:40 PM Reply #792 »
All over a $500 bet on a 5-4 favourite . .


Go for it Baz . . the chance of them proceeding against you is NIL . . and they have probably done themselves much more than $650 worth of harm by your posting here

Keep us informed . . I am very interested in the 'strength' of the regulatory bodies
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« 2017-Nov-08, 09:29 PM Reply #793 »
Not sure what their T&C are but it's not uncommon for sign up bonuses to have a 1 only per address provision.

My Palmer account also lasted only a short period of time after receiving an aggressively rude reply to an email query.  :thumbsd:




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« 2017-Nov-26, 09:22 AM Reply #794 »
Bet365 are welching on bets placed on Solo Artist which won in Toowoomba last night.
They claim that they bet the wrong price $101 & will only pay $11. This is despite the fact they took bets later at $41.
Sportsbet laid it at $51 & have honored their bets.

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« 2017-Nov-26, 10:25 AM Reply #795 »
Where are the stewards?

Where are the regulators?

If they had the 'wrong' price about the winner, then by logic they must have had the wrong prices about all of the others . .

Any refunds for the losers?

The sooner the 'point of sale' tax is applied the better . . it won't stop their grubby little ways, but it will make them contribute to the host that they are parasitising

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« 2017-Nov-26, 02:33 PM Reply #796 »
And what about the on-course face-to-face bookies, who have to compete with the corps to hold money . .

Can they claim 'wrong price' . . ??

Not  :censored: likely  :whistle:

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« 2017-Nov-26, 04:57 PM Reply #797 »
I've been welched on by Sportsbet and Betfair.

I have a strange email from Sportsbet apologizing for their welching at the time of the incident but no rectification through payout. I could have complained to the NT gaming commission (or whatever that organization is called) but the $300 doesn't make it worth my while, nor was the $120 amount with Betfair.

I chose to close my accounts instead.

Consumers have zero rights when it comes to corporate bookmakers - must be because we are gambling vermin in the eyes of the unintelligent politician and besides I'm sure the big English corporate bookmakers make enough profit to kick some back to the Labor and Liberal parties at election time so that they can go on welching. As Arthur points out, seems to be one set of rules for the on course bookmaker and another corrupt set of rules for the pommy bookmaker operating on-line.

They have obviously "lobbied" the politicians very well.

I'll see if I can locate that Sportsbet email and post it here.

People must be aware of the risk involved in betting with a corporate bookmaker. You will eventually run into a situation where they will abuse the self made rules e.g. they will welch on winning bets, or if you are successful they will either close your account or use the tactic of limiting your betting.

And because these firms have strong political "ties" (and you can interpret that any way you want) then there is absolutely nought you can do about it. You will ultimately lose because the corporate firms have deep pockets for lawyers and you do not.

Perhaps restrict your betting to exotics with the TAB is the best way around this risk.

Parimutuel pools cannot talk and "lobby" politicians.

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« 2017-Nov-26, 05:56 PM Reply #798 »
Had a look at the replay of the horse's only start before the win . .

Shame I looked today and not yesterday, because no way should it have been double figures . . let alone triple figures




BUT . . this has nothing to do with the issue at hand

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« 2017-Nov-26, 08:01 PM Reply #799 »
these firms have strong political "ties" (and you can interpret that any way you want)



Perhaps they forgot the 'brown paper bag'. . or sent it to the wrong address . . with successful(?) Qld Labor promising a 15% 'point of sale' tax


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