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Offline dubbledee

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O.P. « 2009-Jan-04, 03:16 PM »
Dunno if there's a thread already opened.

If so, please deal with this as you see fit, Managers.
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« 2009-Jan-04, 03:18 PM Reply #1 »
Wanted to give a wrap to Best Bets' Grant Morgan for his efforts at GC yesterday.

Standing in for Howard Walter, GM was facing a test.  Rain was falling, and there were lots of unkowns.

Yet he came up with most of the winners, including some at good odds.  Plus several long-priced quinellas.

Well done - and we don't have to pay a few hundred bucks to be part of the deal.  emthup

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« 2009-Jan-09, 05:22 PM Reply #2 »
No more Sean - received this email this afternoon in response to a query regarding his tips

Hi coinswell,

As per the last newsletter of 2008 we have now ceased with Sean tips, with our final profit figure donated to charity. You will see a whole new newsletter shortly, with quite a few different initiatives and hopefully a lot more information.

Thanks for the feedback, and if your having a bet on the races tomorrow goodluck!

Cheers,
Chris Ryan
Marketing

Booo hiss! Bring Back Sean I say!

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« 2009-Jan-14, 08:37 PM Reply #3 »
A rule needs to be added that allows bets to be cancelled if Garry Harley tips a horse you have already backed--he is possibly the worst ever tipster and would stop a train  :censored:

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« 2009-Jan-15, 06:34 PM Reply #4 »
Dr Turf's tips on TVN Friday Nights haven't had the best track record either.  Have seen horses that look unbeatable be tipped by him... and stop

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« 2009-Mar-01, 10:20 AM Reply #5 »
Commendable effort from Best Bets' HOWARD WALTER with his EF selections yesterday.

He made AGE OF HEROES and TISANI BOY his two specials.

He also had TIPSY PIGGY, NEESON, THE JACKAL on top as well as LINEAR (beaten an eyelash).

HW had roughie KENTISH ROSE in his selections for the opening leg of the quaddie.

Good stuff - and all for free.  emthup

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« 2009-Mar-01, 10:28 AM Reply #6 »
no his tips aint the best

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« 2009-Mar-29, 11:12 AM Reply #7 »
just racing isn't impressed with the Friday press price ratings.  I mean, it's time the government did something about it:

http://www.justracing.com.au/

(Last Friday's post)
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« 2009-Mar-29, 11:22 AM Reply #8 »
you ought to compare the variations on HONG KONG paper prices to reality, you would think it was a different race, it's a regular occurence for a horse to be $2.10 in the paper and in the real world it's 6/1 and sometimes 20-1, and i wont even mention the variations on all trot meetings Australia wide....10-1 shots in the paper coming up $1.70 and viccy verca, why bother printing that nonsense, unless of course there's an ulterior motive to influence people's quaddies and other exotics, which i reckon is closer to the mark   :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-29, 11:46 AM Reply #9 »
A bit nasty off Phil  :lol:

"Seems price assessors are like racing administrators across the board and metropolitan race club committees - they havenít got a clue."

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« 2009-Mar-29, 11:53 AM Reply #10 »
He's spot on.  Just look at the horses they tip.  They're not even smart enough to charge for them, either.  :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-29, 12:17 PM Reply #11 »
He's right about the early paper prices but  most punters can get  accurate early  odds on race mornings.Still the assessors  should  be able to do better .

The way I'm going it wouldn't matter what price anyone puts up  ,they manage to get beaten,in fact the two I backed yesterday never gave a yelp.

And to rub salt into the wound two I was on last time got up at good odds without me.

Morning Colours which I sacked on it's alley and I'm Invincible which couldn't pick its feet up two weeks ago arrived at big double figure odds.  emthdown

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« 2009-Mar-29, 12:24 PM Reply #12 »
Someone of the genius-status of just racing would be able to predict SPs accurately on Thursday, surely?

I mean it's acknowledged that everyone else in the racing industry is a mug.

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« 2009-Mar-29, 12:59 PM Reply #13 »
No doubt about it   emthup

Offline Tevez17

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« 2009-Mar-29, 05:22 PM Reply #14 »
I have a Tony Brassell system that's worked quite well for me, consistaint ly giving me + 15-25% profit.

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« 2009-Mar-29, 05:58 PM Reply #15 »
Someone of the genius-status of just racing would be able to predict SPs accurately on Thursday, surely?

I mean it's acknowledged that everyone else in the racing industry is a mug.


Maybe this is where Mark should look, wasn't he looking for accurate tote markets the day previous  :wacko:

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« 2009-Mar-29, 06:51 PM Reply #16 »
You just dont know where to leave it do ya?

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« 2009-Mar-30, 09:50 AM Reply #17 »
One commercial tipping service provided this advice for Doomben on Saturday:

Race 1: 7-2-5-10  They ran: 10-2-11-5

Race 2: 4-3-11-15  They ran: 10-3-11-8

Race 3: 2-3-4-1  They ran: 2-4-3-1

Race 4: 9-4-12-5  They ran: 3-7-10-5

Race 5: 3-5-12-7  They ran: 7-10-15-3

Race 6: 5-11-3-10  They ran: 5-3-7-11

Race 7: 2-6-11-1   They ran: 3-2-6-7

Race 8: 1-10-2-13   They ran: 2-4-11-12

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« 2009-Mar-30, 10:23 AM Reply #18 »
One commercial tipping service provided this advice for Doomben on Saturday:

Howard Walter  :what:

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« 2009-Mar-30, 12:56 PM Reply #19 »
Nope...HW's tips are on the TAB website.

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« 2009-Mar-30, 07:03 PM Reply #20 »
Could be Chubby  :/
 
That's a stab in the dark but not a good strike rate whoever it is. emthdown

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« 2009-Mar-30, 07:29 PM Reply #21 »
I dunno whose they were.  I didn't ask, and don't care.

Like all tips, you can make them into what you want after the races.  $1 WIN on the top selection returned a 25% profit.  Plenty on here would be shouting from the rooftops with that record.

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« 2009-Mar-30, 07:41 PM Reply #22 »
Nope...HW's tips are on the TAB website.

I like Howard as a tipster, sounds like he puts a lot of work into his selections and sounds like a nice guy to boot when listening to him on 4tab  8-)

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« 2009-Mar-30, 07:48 PM Reply #23 »
Agree, MagiC.  I've never held back with compliments for both Howard Walter and Grant Morgan for their tips in Best Bets.  They leave a self-appointed Brisbane tipping genius in their wake - and all their tips are free,

The BB guys do their tips on Thursday midday.  Some of us have trouble finding a place-getter Saturday midday. :nowink:

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« 2009-Mar-30, 08:08 PM Reply #24 »
Yep not many put effort into selections or back them I dont think as a matter of fact. I can remember a while ago I was at a MV night meet with my son and one bloke was yellin out  into the broadcast box: ' Ey Turfy, give us a tip that you actually think will win!'

Was funny as.


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