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Offline Lucky

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O.P. « 2008-Dec-28, 11:36 AM »

Wow - this fellow is flying -

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« 2008-Dec-28, 11:45 AM Reply #1 »
Is he?

I've only seen a few and they all look like their dad.

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« 2008-Dec-28, 02:49 PM Reply #2 »
There seems to be a big push in a few circles for this stallion,I would not call one winner as flying myself. Let's get to the Autumn carnival and assess how he is going then.. :unsu

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« 2008-Dec-28, 06:02 PM Reply #3 »
Stats?

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« 2008-Dec-28, 06:21 PM Reply #4 »
he has had a handful to the track and all seem to be above city class

Shellscrape- 3 seconds from memory - slaughtered twice- and beat at this stage by what would be a likley slipper fav
Hewentwoosh- looks a terrifc sires/champagne type horse
Shadow Assassin - amazing win
A heap of trial winners

So far i dont seem to see a dud- albiet off a limited amount of runners-
No exceed and excel - but he couldn't of started better in my opinion

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« 2008-Dec-28, 07:23 PM Reply #5 »
He is showing promise, but it's pretty early to judge him.

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« 2008-Dec-29, 11:53 AM Reply #6 »
yeah i got a huge wrap for him the other day as well....owned by a qld restauranter who seems to be getting the "buzz" out......stands in scone

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« 2008-Dec-29, 12:52 PM Reply #7 »
  :noteworthy:

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« 2009-Jan-01, 07:24 AM Reply #8 »
Is it even fair to compare him with Exceed and Excel? Considering Dane Shadow has only 61 live foals in his first crop off of 84 mares covered.  Of those only 29 are named.  That was off of a $12,100 service fee.

Compare that with Exceed and Excel, who does stand at Darley, so is guaranteed of far superior mares.  He covered a total of 157 in his second crop, and got a total of 123 live foals.  Of those, 81 are named so far.

Not a fair comparison, when one has the commercial backing and support of one of the two biggest studs in the world, and the numbers to show it, whilst another is having to compete at less than 10% of the service fee, and in the same playground, the Hunter.  Not to mention the other bells and whistles that Darley does throw in as well.

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« 2009-Jan-01, 07:26 AM Reply #9 »
The joint where he stands is run by a couple of good blokes as well  emthup

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« 2009-Jan-01, 08:49 AM Reply #10 »
The joint where he stands is run by a couple of good blokes as well  emthup

Not putting down the stud, Kitchwin Hills at, because I have heard so many good reports.

Just saying you cannot compare the two stallions when one is going to be supported by the biggest commercial entity in racing, whilst another is a small boutique stud, with just one stallion.

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« 2009-Jan-08, 06:47 PM Reply #11 »
boy o boy looks like the other trainers are supoorting him judging by sales results

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« 2009-Jan-08, 08:28 PM Reply #12 »
Lucky,  I think he was a bit of a gunna/hype horse.

I suspect his offspring will be the same

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« 2009-Jan-08, 08:40 PM Reply #13 »
Any horse that was a genuine group galloper is NOT a gunna/hype horse - they are achievers.

He was a genuine group class galloper.

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« 2009-Jan-08, 08:44 PM Reply #14 »
From an owners point of view you are 100%

Personally, I saw him not hit the line when he should have and 1 from 13 suggest I may be right.

Maybe it was because he was a colt and wasn't focused but he looked a winner many times but found one better.....a lot.


Not calling him a cat, author and nothing wrong with stating he was a "hype" horse

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« 2009-Jan-08, 09:40 PM Reply #15 »
There is no doubt whatsoever that he was a hype horse in the stable and more was expected than he delivered on the track. I recall Zabeel being heavily hyped for a number of quality Melbourne races that he disappointed in. It isn't the end of the road or worst label ever.

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« 2009-Jan-08, 09:45 PM Reply #16 »
Just went through his career again and there is no doubt his form tappered right off after the George Main stakes.

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« 2009-Jan-09, 12:29 PM Reply #17 »
Hype will not be the deciding factor in him being a successful sire.

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« 2009-Jan-09, 03:32 PM Reply #18 »
Did anyone see his son, Shellscape(?) last start?

he raced up like he was going to win by 3 lengths.......but didn't

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« 2009-Jan-09, 04:02 PM Reply #19 »
  :lol:

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« 2009-Jan-10, 12:08 PM Reply #20 »
Shadow Miss easy winner .

She obviously has more heart than Shellscape Willy ?

She got that from mum ?

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« 2009-Jan-10, 12:43 PM Reply #21 »
Nice win  emthup

the Best Western mares go pretty good  :lol:

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« 2009-Jan-22, 06:43 PM Reply #22 »
considering the mares he hass had ( and the trainers ) he must be the brightest sire to emerge for many many years.From all reports not one has gone shin sore and im yet to see a complete walker from him - only early still but heading the right way

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« 2009-Jan-22, 07:07 PM Reply #23 »
Lucky, whats your vested interest.

Are you Mick Malone  :lol:

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« 2009-Jan-22, 08:29 PM Reply #24 »
considering the mares he hass had ( and the trainers ) he must be the brightest sire to emerge for many many years.From all reports not one has gone shin sore and im yet to see a complete walker from him - only early still but heading the right way

Do you ever see any 'complete walkers' at all  :what: I would have though they wouldn't make it to the track.


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