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Offline j.r.b.

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O.P. « 2016-Apr-12, 08:37 AM »
No surprise there.

Darley hasn't set a fee as yet.

Offline dean

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« 2016-Apr-12, 09:38 AM Reply #1 »
Another over rated Godolphin wonder horse. Good against his own age. Found wanting and limited when tried against all comers.Fact

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« 2016-Apr-12, 09:42 AM Reply #2 »
Very talented no question but he had his quirks and excuses.


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« 2016-Apr-12, 09:48 AM Reply #3 »
Another over rated Godolphin wonder horse. Good against his own age. Found wanting and limited when tried against all comers.Fact

No excuses for the failure in the TJ Smith and a couple of other races.

But....another McDonald slaughter job in the Lightning Stakes. Has the same run as the winner he wins by 4 lengths. McDonald took him to the wrong part of the track, then changes his mind mid race but is still in the worse going. Beaten 1.7 lengths in the end. The worst ride I have ever seen in a Group 1 in the 4 decades I've been following the sport. Then he has the audacity to blame Va Pensiero after the race.

https://www.racing.com/horses/exosphere-2012

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« 2016-Apr-12, 10:20 AM Reply #4 »
No excuses for the failure in the TJ Smith and a couple of other races.



Wasn't there an injury ?

I know when it comes to these potential stallions we are all cynical about these injuries but Godolphin on a world wide scale tend to thoroughly test their colts and do not usually throw up injuries as excuses.


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« 2016-Apr-12, 10:25 AM Reply #5 »
Wasn't there an injury ?

I know when it comes to these potential stallions we are all cynical about these injuries but Godolphin on a world wide scale tend to thoroughly test their colts and do not usually throw up injuries as excuses.


I was saying something like "no excuses in the run unlike the Lightning".

Think he was reported as lame in the TJ Smith from memory? I will not be lazy and look it up.....hang on a sec......

Exosphere rider J McDonald stated he was able to secure a nice position in the run, but
was disappointing and he could offer not explanation for the performance. A post-race
veterinary examination revealed the colt to be lame in the off foreleg. Trainer Mr J O'Shea
stated there had been no issues whatsoever with Exosphere going into the race. He
concurred with the view of the Club's Veterinary Officer that the colt was significantly lame in
the off foreleg subsequent to the race
and undertook to report to the Stewards the results of a
full veterinary examinations to be conducted on Exosphere. J McDonald will be interviewed
relative to his use of the whip on the colt.


Nice one. Horse is lame and suffering so McDonald goes to town on him with the whip. That is a real good look for the sport  :no:


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« 2016-Apr-12, 10:26 AM Reply #6 »
Another over rated Godolphin wonder horse. Good against his own age. Found wanting and limited when tried against all comers.Fact


        Whose ratings are you disputing Dean?  Media types?
        "Limited"? Seen that word before too.  Plenty of people out there would love to own such a limited horse.

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« 2016-Apr-12, 11:28 AM Reply #7 »
Of course plenty of people would like to own a horse like him. That doesn't make him a star. We will now wait for all the urgers to start flogging him as a Stallion. Its called "marketing " and open to as much embellishment as you think the majority of people would find plausible. I have simply stated the facts. The horse never won a  race against anything but his own age. In fact he never even ran a place against anything but his own age group. Who knows why he is being retired . Is he genuinely not capable of racing again or are they just trying to protect his stud value before he dents it again ? Can't keep blaming jockeys and course managers forever can you.

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« 2016-Apr-12, 11:57 AM Reply #8 »
Of course plenty of people would like to own a horse like him. That doesn't make him a star. We will now wait for all the urgers to start flogging him as a Stallion. Its called "marketing " and open to as much embellishment as you think the majority of people would find plausible. I have simply stated the facts. The horse never won a  race against anything but his own age. In fact he never even ran a place against anything but his own age group. Who knows why he is being retired . Is he genuinely not capable of racing again or are they just trying to protect his stud value before he dents it again ? Can't keep blaming jockeys and course managers forever can you.
             
              They are only the facts as you see them.  He only raced all aged horses twice.
              Read any of my comments, no blaming going on from me.
              I think there were  genuine excuses in The Lightning and if John O"Shea says he couldn't put his hoof on the ground after The TJ, I believe it.
               I'm sure J Mac and O'Shea were bitterly disappointed after The TJ.
            
              Not surprised the first comment on here after his retirement was a pot.
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« 2016-Apr-12, 12:35 PM Reply #9 »
Another one of Lonhro's singular group 1 winners............

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2016-Apr-12, 05:52 PM Reply #10 »
Catalogue page littered with black type whilst there not being any stand out stars.
On his raw ability and the fact he's a stunningly good looking horse I wouldn't hesitate to send a mare to him If I was still in the game

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« 2016-Apr-19, 03:16 PM Reply #11 »
Was at Flemington for the Carnival last year when he started short odds-on but missed kick & never likely.
How quickly fortunes can change.  :whistle: 

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« 2016-Sep-19, 06:45 AM Reply #12 »
Bred To Win covering a story on this horse on Thursday you can bet he is letting down to a lovely Stallion so am looking forward to watching.


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