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« 2015-Oct-30, 09:45 AM Reply #100 »

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« 2015-Oct-30, 09:50 AM Reply #101 »
Very tiresome exercise.

Alan Woods estate: playboy punter boxed in on tax
Ben Butler

Margin Call columnist

In Hong Kong last year punters plunged a record $18.9bn on races run on only two courses In Hong Kong last year punters plunged a record $18.9bn on races run on only two courses by just 1200 horses. Source: Getty Images < PrevNext >
Answering the door of her modest weatherboard house in one of Melbourne’s bastions of respectability, Malvern, Victoria Woods didn’t look like she was worth close to half a billion dollars.

Nor did the tracksuit-clad 40-year-old with the Fitbit on her wrist seem like the kind of person who’d get caught up in a Taxation Office investigation stretching from the courtrooms of Channel Islands tax haven Jersey to the ­office towers of Hong Kong.

A slight woman with long, straight black hair, Woods is the daughter of legendary gambler Alan Woods, who when he died in 2008 left behind a $939 million fortune reaped mostly from punting on the ponies at Hong Kong’s Happy Valley and Sha Tin racecourses.

While he spent the bulk of his time in Manila, his will, of just two pages, was filed in Victoria and dictated that the vast bulk of his estate be split between his daughter and her brother, Hong Kong-based Anthony Woods.

The existence of the ATO probe is revealed in a previously unreported court ruling made last December in Jersey, where Woods based his corporate vehicle, Libertarian Investments, named for his embrace of drug-­fuelled hedonism and disdain for taxation.

While winnings from gambling are tax-free, whale gamblers have been in the taxman’s sights in ­recent years.

In 2012 the ATO went after one of Woods’ acquaintances, Tasmanian art collector David Walsh, and Walsh’s gambling associates David Steicke and Zeljko Ranogajec seeking $37m in back taxes, but settled the case the same year.

One professional punter told The Weekend Australian that, ­unlike Walsh’s group, he was careful never to employ anyone so that the ATO could not classify his punting as a business.

But the ATO’s probe of Woods’ estate centred on events following his death, rather than how he made his vast fortune.

Last year, the tax office sought information from Jersey authorities regarding the affairs of his ­estate, Libertarian, Victoria Woods and a Jersey trust called the Victoria Woods Trust.

The ATO investigation centred on a variation of Alan Woods’ will, approved by the Royal Court in early 2010, which resulted in shares in Libertarian being gifted to the Victoria Woods Trust.

Ruling on a dispute about whether the existence of the probe could be disclosed to Victoria Woods, the Royal Court’s Deputy Bailiff, William Bailhache, said there was “at least a probability that the Australian Competent Authority (a division of the ATO) is investigating some criminal activity, because there is reference made to fraud”. However, he also found that “it would seem to me to be somewhat unlikely that any criminal liability of Ms Woods will have arisen”.

He said the suggestion that Ms Woods and Mark Temple, the Jersey representative of Woods’ executor, would be found to have acted illegally in procuring the variation after getting legal advice “seems unlikely to put it mildly”.

It’s not clear whether the ATO investigation is still going.

When Woods died, he left $US8m in cash to a handful of named people — mostly women — in Hong Kong, the US and The Philippines, plus an income stream totalling about $2000 a month to two women in The ­Philippines. The remainder of his fortune was to be split between Victoria and Andrew.

Just $700,000 of the estate was inside the state of Victoria — cash, held in a Macquarie account.

The rest was spread across the world: more than $6.4m in HSBC and Bank of China accounts in Hong Kong and The Philippines and his controlling stakes in two tax haven companies, Libertarian and Poseidon Technology.

At the time of his death Libertarian was valued at $654m while Poseidon, registered in Caribbean British Overseas Territory the Turks and Caicos Islands, was worth $277m. There was also a $1.1m penthouse spread across the 32nd and 33rd floors of a gated skyscraper in Manila’s high-end Rockwell development.

And lurking somewhere in the empire was also an investment in betting exchange Betfair — in 2013, after Woods died, Victoria and Andrew told the London stock exchange they owned 2.5 per cent of the company. It’s not clear if they retain any stake.

Woods’ was a hard-won fortune, won by building a computer model of Hong Kong’s racing scene, where punters last year plunged a record $18.9bn on races run on only two courses by just 1200 horses.

A big fan of ecstasy and throwing big parties, he was also well-known to the Filipino bar girls in Hong Kong’s Wanchai district.

There were also run-ins with the local authorities, who weren’t sure how to handle interlopers who brought vast liquidity to tote operator the Hong Kong Jockey Club but at the same time didn’t pay tax on any of their winnings.

Some of the flavour of the wild world of big-time professional punting comes through in a Hong Kong court case over Libertarian’s investment in Betfair, then known as The Sporting Exchange, in 2002.

The investment was organised by Woods’ former friend and business associate, Tom Hall, described by Hong Kong High Court judge William Stone as someone who “inhabited the opaque penumbra of the commercial betting world”.

Hong Kong court records show that in May 2003 Woods agreed to invest £35m in Betfair through one of his vehicles, ­Momentum Limited, in a deal to be brokered by Hall.

In a series of purchases over the next year, Hall gradually built Woods’ stake towards a target of 10 per cent of the company.

However, Betfair told Hall ­Momentum wasn’t allowed to bring its shareholding to more than 6.5 per cent, for reasons that aren’t ­revealed in the Hong Kong judgment.

Nonetheless, Hall went ahead and bought another 1.8 million shares in Betfair, which would have brought Woods’ holding to 10 per cent.

However, the deal collapsed and Woods sued Hall for misusing his money.

In 2010, Justice Stone found for Woods, saying that despite Hall’s “charm”, some of his evidence “seemed to me to be wholly far-fetched and unbelievable, and if I may say so more fitting to the ­stories of Lewis Carroll than hard reality: in this connection the ­alleged transfer of £5.46m via Macau ‘junket rooms’ to the ­apparent stranger ‘Mr Schultz’ … provides a prime example”.

Hall was ordered to pay Woods’ estate £5.4m.

None of the people contacted by The Weekend Australian wanted to talk about Woods or the ATO investigation.

The ATO declined to comment on the case because the law prevents it talking about the ­affairs of individual taxpayers.

Anthony Woods couldn’t be located. Reached by phone, the executor of Alan Woods’ will, Hong Kong dental anaesthetist John Hawkswell-Curtis, hung up when asked about the tax office.

And at home in Malvern on Thursday afternoon, Victoria Woods was polite but firm. “I don’t want to talk to any reporters,” she said.

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Peter SEP 19, 2015
we should all be so lucky, having a great time and making lots of money while paying no tax.

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« 2015-Oct-30, 11:47 AM Reply #102 »
I believe this is Victoria's mum Meredith Woods who split with Alan in the 70s.

Her bridge record is below.

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« 2015-Dec-13, 07:26 PM Reply #103 »
Hard to figure where to stick this fascinating thread.

The associated comments are quite cute.

One contains a claim that Benter and Woods invented Robots in 1984.

Based on my experience I find that extremely dubious.

My guess is that Tony Boyd would have been the first punter effectively using computers way before then.

As for Robotic Punting, that started here around the mid 90s.

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« 2015-Dec-13, 08:03 PM Reply #104 »

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« 2017-Dec-12, 05:28 PM Reply #106 »
Coincidentally after posting that Woods logit link, I was amused to find this Woods piece the same month.

It may well contain defamatory material so I caution anyone against publishing it elsewhere.

However it turns out that Woods was actually that card counter who appeared in the Four Corners Waterhouse expose.

Many years later on that same forum RWW seemed to be extremely pasy-walsy with Woods.

Extremely ironic considering the earlier expressed sentiments.

For the record RWW apparently also tinkered with logits, courtesy of Professor David Edelman.

But there is no evidence he matched Woods' success. Edelman appears to now be in Dublin, while the former RWW on-course tote initative appeared to fall victim to Darwinism many years back.

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« 2019-Dec-22, 02:40 PM Reply #107 »
In that recently deleted thread, Carey (who I gather was a former associate of Alan Woods) challenged me about my allegations that although clearly mathematically gifted he was a "crook and cheat".

I've now managed to locate the pertinent link where I believe Woods himself confesses to the unflattering clauses of my assessment.

"during WC94 stood to lose USD$5M in 1 night if both matches went the wrong way.

one of the games was Cameroon vs. Soviet Union -- last round of qualifying and neither could qualify so match was supposedly fixed in favour of Cameroon.

3 way price on Cameroon started around $2.50 to $2.75 and my god i got drowned in the money flooding in on same.

i tried to stop it but it was like a tidal wave and finally they were still trying to back Cameroon at $1.48 ( i had taken action at $1.50 ) but i had to say "please please maas no more -- stop beating me".

so UFO r u curious to know the result of the match ??

a friend had a small part of the action and he was furious with me for taking so much action on the game --- but as i said it was like a  :censored: ing tidal wave."

The only way I know of interpreting this is that Woods was running an Asian bookmaklng operation.

Last time I checked that has been illegal for a very long time.

If so, then he is clearly a crook.

I also notice that after I alleged much the same on that deleted thread, Carey failed to respond.

That in itself is a very telling response.

Somebody I know just read this post from JFC and asked me about it, and if I was an 'associate' of AW in the long ago.
Thus the idiot that is me, logged on for the first time in months.

I never responded for the simple reason I had not read this thread, not that there is any valid reason I should have responded that I know of.
Thus the bit in bold is irrelevant.

Was I an 'associate' of Woods......NO
Did I know him......YES we corresponded a lot over a lot of years, but never met face to face.
Did I do stuff for him......YES.....I am rather good with time data, even If i do say so myself, so he used me when they could not do it themselves.

As far as AW and RW being 'palsy walsy' is concerned, that is nonsense, unless Alan was telling me fibs, he hated RW guts until the day he died, although I never asked why.
I don't know if Edelman ever worked for Woods when he was alive, but he did after he died and Vicki got control(apparently it was acrimonius and AW's 2IC PaulL tried to get control, but failed), is what I got told.
I also got told Edelman was useless to them, and was made 'persona non grata', but have no idea of the truth of that, being a non associate!!

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« 2019-Dec-22, 08:22 PM Reply #108 »
Woods was a member either of this forum or it's  predecessor.

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« 2019-Dec-22, 09:02 PM Reply #109 »
On a technicality , it was the Soviets in 1990 and then it was Russia in 1994 who beat Cameroon.

Russian soccer history is quite interesting and strange when you consider it has a lot of oil money but current the local league is below the standards of other major leagues in Europe such as England, Spain, Italy, France, Germany etc.

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« 2021-Sep-06, 04:26 PM Reply #110 »
This is a recent article about Mr Huge, but I can't find anything new.

It is from the UK, so maybe it's a first there. The author appears to have just have done a sloppy cut and paste.

He throws Zeljko's name into the mix, mentioning a team up but not elaborating. Because he wouldn't have a clue.

Had the author googled this site he would have come up with a far more credible piece.

Failing to realise that Woods once (thought he) had a piece of Betfair is a major sin of omission.