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« 2011-Jan-10, 11:20 PM Reply #50 »
Thinking of Racenet reminded me of this post by Goldfish. The first post by Basil (now Basil Girl) quotes the SMH article on the demise of Racenet Forum just over 10 years ago:


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Here is the Max Prenell's article, as in SMH Monday July 30th
 
FORUM SILENCED
 
The loss of the Forum on Racenet, an internet site, is disappointing. It was one of the few TAB-free media areas where ideas, selections and opinions could be aired. "Dubaigate", an embarassment for TAB Ltd, came out of the discussion room. Alas it only takes one mug to cruel a good thing. Following a scurrilous and outrageous line about a racing personality, Racenet proprietor Glen Robbins has dropped the Forum. Robbins was as disappointed and upset by the cheapest of cheap shots and until he can get more protection for the innocent it will not re-appear.


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From: entropy  (Original Message) Sent: 27/07/2001 11:39 AM
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Date:   Jul 25/2001 - 07:46 AM
 

Went to the Racenet funeral today at St Patricks in town. Very sad day. Many attended. There were lots of speeches none more heart wrenching than one by Birdy & Soopy. They spoke of their love of Racenet and the the contraversial threads they posted over the last 12 months. Dolly interupted and just bagged them.
Filly was there. Looked sensational! Gelded spoke but we got lost a bit at the 1200m mark with all the facts and stats.Codmother drove most there in the coach and spoke of her trouble finding this "let it ride crap" Sunshine did'nt give a dam 'cause he's leaving anyway, and can't afford to log on 'cause he's so tight.Drunkathugos was drunkathugos and could'nt make it. Filly looked even better the second time I looked. Jet Fighter was really upset.....He's not even gunna bother with THIS forum. No Feng Shui here he reckons. Stabba just got into the gnome society again and unfortunately there was a bit of a scuffle. Admin broke it up by sending them to the Sin Bin. Stabba came back lookin' for Vic Rail but no Vic so he left. Crin arrived lookin' special as she does and thanked Birdy & Snoopy for all they had done. That was nice I thought. Big nose made a brief apperance but he's losin' weight so had to go and sauna. Also there was;Geegees, richo, AlefNeuman,gee cee,Billy,ajm, geoff, travis, monty, Filly (looked great), arnold,matterat,HomerJ, slade,melissab,jo1,and Sunshine's motor bike (crap heap). A sad day it was indeed but as Crin said in her speech....The old bloodstock is gone and it's time to breed new threads on LET IT RIDE. The Racenet "wake party" has been emailed to all former racenetters and it's at S. Baster's house but I'm not sure of the date. When you all see him at the races he'll give you details. Love to you all and good luck on this new forum.

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« 2011-Jan-10, 11:37 PM Reply #51 »
Anyone know what become of redhots, he's not praiseworthy is he  :p

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« 2011-Jan-11, 06:04 AM Reply #52 »
Westie wish REDHOTS was still serving it up to the establishment. On the old Racenet forum  I would look for any threads featuring him as soon as i switched computer on.

He would definitely make any   Classic Contributors list.

                                                                    Ricochet.

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« 2011-Jan-11, 06:29 AM Reply #53 »
Gee there's some names from the past there  8-)


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« 2011-Jan-11, 08:30 AM Reply #54 »
Westerly.

Yes.

I was one of the drunks at Hugos.

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« 2011-Jan-11, 08:53 AM Reply #55 »
Bloody hell ... Hugos .. now there's a good place for aa drink or three! :beer: :beer:

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« 2011-Feb-07, 07:00 AM Reply #56 »
There's a cute story about an Alan Woods Tote Coup in he

http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/hylandint.html

Not sure why they didn't back the 2nd favourite for a Place as well.

Also, why were 20 people required for such a piddly operation?

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« 2011-Feb-07, 12:51 PM Reply #57 »
Nice story, somewhat similiar to a coup carried out in Europe some years ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Sam_betting_coup

Presumably the Woods team/software lives on in some form in HK ?

The Asian forum mentioned is a ghost town these days.

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« 2011-Aug-22, 08:12 AM Reply #58 »
Ended up buying the AFR on Saturday to quell my curiosity about Alan Woods. There's no free on-line version.

About the last time I bought a newspaper before that was for the King of Keno in 1994.

However this supposed 3 page expose of Woods contains some glaring garbage.

For starters who in their right mind would resort to uncorroborated quotes from David Walsh - as unreliable a witness as is possible.

At first glance Walsh almost seems to be chanting from my hymn sheet.

Consider his:

"The rock-star lifestyle was mirrored in drug and alcohol abuse, triumphalist sexism and at least a couple of high-flying suicides".

Why not focus on these suicides first?

Bob Moore obviously was one.

Presumably the other was Michael Bastian a confidence trickster who duped a number of prominent racing figures.

But what Walsh fails to mention and the article fails to notice is that Bastian was earlier a member of the VITAB fraud.

And the principal beneficiary of that fraud was the Zeljko-Walsh group!

Remember that Grandson of VITAB continues to steal up to $65 million annually from Victorian TAB punters.


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« 2011-Aug-24, 05:30 PM Reply #59 »
Further to the moral guidelines of Citizen Walsh:

Despite making an effort, I still don't know what "triumphalist sexism" means.

But my bet is that Walsh himself is that phenomenon's most ardent exponent.

He actually chooses to publish this admission on his own site.

“It’s absolutely astounding to me that the same girls who used to
pillory me for what I was then, are now trying to lay down for me
everywhere.”

http://moorilla.com.au/files/pdf/thecollector.pdf

I confess his enlightened lifestyle is too deep for me.

Walsh has children and at times had wives. But evidently he declined to have any of his children with any of his wives!



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« 2011-Aug-26, 12:02 PM Reply #60 »
The Woods AFR article spends fails to address significant new revelations about Woods, instead parroting material from the old Tony Wilson piece.

In particular it makes no mention whatsoever of Woods' involvement with and ownership of Betfair.

That Betfair connection is very easy to verify, and would startle many readers.

It is still right now being dragged through the courts.

Yet the AFR apparently can't find it!


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« 2011-Sep-02, 05:18 PM Reply #61 »
The Woods saga seems to be throwing up some inconsistencies - particularly when David Walsh's ramblings are factored in.

However while trying to get to the bottom of them these two apparently new articles emerged:

http://www.abf.com.au/newsletter/May08.pdf

An obituary by a friend of Woods during his NZ phase.

http://www.contingenciesonline.com/contingenciesonline/20090506/?pg=24#pg22

A comprehensive article dealing with, among other things, the initial Woods Benter venture and subsequent parting of ways.

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« 2011-Sep-06, 09:03 AM Reply #62 »
Accidentally stumbled onto this comprehensive article, which managed to elude me for a decade, about Bob Moore.

http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/SCMP/menuitem.06f0b401397a029733492d9253a0a0a0/?vgnextoid=d8c7814d90af1110VgnVCM100000360a0a0aRCRD&s=Archive

One of the more useful ones, adding handy jigsaw pieces to the Alan Woods potrait.


And here are some old insights by Woods and others one of a number of flamboyant once successful punters that played the suicide gambit.

http://www.asianracing.nu/vb/showthread.php?t=232&page=1

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« 2011-Nov-20, 02:10 PM Reply #63 »
That AFR article on Woods referred to one key factor, but failed to analyse it.

Namely that Woods left an inheritance of around 1 billion dollars!

The problem is that as Woods did not reside anywhere, the idea that his inheritance should be ratified at his last official residence Melbourne - in the 70's - is a sick joke.

The reality is that shysters are going to milk it for all it is worth - namely 1 billion dollars. So there is about as much left over as we taxpayers received from the Chase for Skase.

His protege David Steicke will feel aggrieved that his record of boosting shyster revenue by $38 million for a mere divorce preliminary will be obliterated by the Woods figure.

Now given that Woods had ample advance notice of his own death, and dedicated his life to dodging taxes, why didn't he figure out some way of transferring his estate to his intended heirs, rather than open up the mother of all shyster benefits?

Not only will he be remembered as a cynical crook, but as dumber than the average mug.

Some leviathan!


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« 2011-Nov-20, 09:11 PM Reply #64 »
That AFR article on Woods referred to one key factor, but failed to analyse it.

Namely that Woods left an inheritance of around 1 billion dollars!

The problem is that as Woods did not reside anywhere, the idea that his inheritance should be ratified at his last official residence Melbourne - in the 70's - is a sick joke.

The reality is that shysters are going to milk it for all it is worth - namely 1 billion dollars. So there is about as much left over as we taxpayers received from the Chase for Skase.

His protege David Steicke will feel aggrieved that his record of boosting shyster revenue by $38 million for a mere divorce preliminary will be obliterated by the Woods figure.

Now given that Woods had ample advance notice of his own death, and dedicated his life to dodging taxes, why didn't he figure out some way of transferring his estate to his intended heirs, rather than open up the mother of all shyster benefits?

Not only will he be remembered as a cynical crook, but as dumber than the average mug.Some leviathan!



WOW!

You have really exposed your true nature now   :lol:

You really must be someone special  :clap2:

That being the case, I wonder why you waste your time on so many forums, bagging one person?? who we all know, Is NOT "one Person"???

You are still yet to say anything negative about the corporate bookies who are a much greater blight on  the industry then your current target.
Why is that so, jfc???


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« 2012-Jul-07, 11:46 AM Reply #66 »
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/billionaires-gamblers-gaming-casinos-millionaires--pd20120706-VX272?OpenDocument&src=sph%20&src=rot

"Woods was also smart enough to dodge tax authorities through a simple strategy. “Theoretically I’m not resident anywhere, given I come here (the Philippines) on a tourist visa,” he told Wilson. “And my plan has been for some years not to be resident of any particular country for the rest of my life.”"


Just so easy to dodge tax.

Don't live anywhere.

Maybe Walsh can find a way to make Mona buoyant, and float his treasure away from any jurisdiction?

We've heard of floating crap games.

But floating cloacas?

Talk about a paradigm shift!


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« 2012-Jul-22, 11:33 AM Reply #67 »
It's worthwhile revisiting Alan Woods' personal account of the famous Keno fiasco, when considering the contradictory accounts now hitting the AFR.

http://www.asianracing.nu/vb/showthread.php?p=15986#post15986

I've been having so much fun wasting my time trying to analyse this Keno caper, that I've decided to try and spread the joy.

I'll gauge interest in this subject through a few quizzes.

Those of you in the AssumeTheCrown league who can instantly answer them, and are tortured whether to deprive the others of an instructive experience can instead PM me (or someone more trustworthy) with the right answers.

The Spot 10 involves picking 10 numbers from 1-80.

Keno then picks 20 numbers from the 80.

Quiz 1:

What is the simple spreadsheet equation for the probability of getting all 10 of your numbers in the selected 20?

Note that to my knowledge, this has never before been published on the Internet!

Over to you.


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« 2012-Jul-22, 11:55 AM Reply #68 »
Is it FACT(20) / FACT(80) ??

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« 2012-Jul-22, 11:56 AM Reply #69 »
Your birthday
Missus' birthday
Kids' birthdays

That assumes you have eight kids.

Sit back and collect the cash.

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« 2012-Jul-22, 12:00 PM Reply #70 »
  :lol:

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« 2012-Jul-22, 12:03 PM Reply #71 »
Your birthday
Missus' birthday
Kids' birthdays

That assumes you have eight kids.

Sit back and collect the cash.

Dang, only got 4 kids. Missus too old to bear. Any fertile women out there assist?

Janice need not apply.

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« 2012-Jul-22, 12:15 PM Reply #72 »
Is it FACT(20) / FACT(80) ??

This suggests something like:

=PERMUT(80,20)

First problem is that Keno (and Lotto) don't care which order the numbers come out.

In mathematical spreadsheet parlance, these capers are

not PERMUT

but COMBIN

(where order doesn't count).


But the answer is not

=COMBIN(80,20)

a number so huge that even King Zeljko (or even Croesus as Woods aliased himself) might take pause.

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« 2012-Jul-22, 12:21 PM Reply #73 »
Yes, of course they're combinations, not permutations.

The divisors in the COMB formula cancel out when we divide.

Anyway, you can tell us jfc.  :bulb:

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« 2012-Jul-22, 12:37 PM Reply #74 »
Yes, of course they're combinations, not permutations.

The divisors in the COMB formula cancel out when we divide.

Anyway, you can tell us jfc.  :bulb:

Patience, grasshopper.

Hopefully another thrillseeker might try to have a go.

As a clue, I suspect =COMBIN(80,20) might form part of the solution, but there is a more direct way of arriving there.


What continues to amaze me is that answers to essential punting questions are just sitting there in our spreadsheets, yet no one seems to be capable of extracting them.


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