Author Topic: Possible Spirng Saturday Competition (Read 2946 times)

Brian Mc · O.P. « 2019-Aug-22, 08:08 AM »

It's a little time now since we had an Autumn, Winter or Spring Saturday competition.

Back in the day, PP7 spoiled us all with his well-run and analysed week-to-week treats. Alas, no more.

Are there a few out there who are interested in something this Spring? If there are, there are a number of ways we could go.

(1) Can we do it without money incentives or, if not, are there some who wold contribute?

(2) Which, of many alternatives, would we use to score the competition?
(a) points for placings;
(b) TAB dividends;
(c) cumulative from week to week;
(d) each week has a score and these scores added;
(e) other bright ideas.

(3) Would the competition be open to all races across Australia on the Saturday or, say, restricted to black-type events?

(4) Would be competition be restricted to Saturdays or take in the odd feature Friday night outings at the Valley, the Sunday meeting in Melbourne on AFL Grand Final day, Cup Tuesday and Oaks Thursday?

Let's know your are interested and have comments and/or new ideas.

JWesleyHarding · « 2019-Aug-22, 09:27 AM **Reply #1** »

For what they are worth my thought Use Weekday comp as a template

1) Can we do it without money incentives or, if not, are there some who would contribute? Whatever- I'll throw in $100 if all players select on same races

(2) Which, of many alternatives, would we use to score the competition? Use Weekday comp as template

(a) points for placings; No

(b) TAB dividends; Yes from $10x $10 notional bet

(c) cumulative from week to week; Yes a start date and a finish date

(d) each week has a score and these scores added; Yes each week brings a score and weeks' scores are cumulated'

(e)
other bright ideas.

(3) Would the competition be open to all races across Australia on the Saturday or, say, restricted to black-type events? All players to tip on say 4-8 black type events

(4) Would be competition be restricted to Saturdays or take in the odd feature Friday night outings at the Valley, the Sunday meeting in Melbourne on AFL Grand Final day, Cup Tuesday and Oaks Thursday? Whatever is decided

JWesleyHarding · « 2019-Aug-22, 03:05 PM **Reply #2** »

Brian
What about a comp along the lines of last year's Spring Comp?

I'd suggest with Tote divis for a $10x$10 bet rather than 3-2-1 as it better rewards a long-priced placing.

O.P. « 2018-Aug-17, 11:59 PM »

DONT BE MISLED> THE FOLLOWING RELATES TO 2018 AND IS BEING USED AS A THOUGHT-STARTER

Wily Ole Dog and I will be conducting a competition to run between Saturday August 18th and concluding on Derby Day Saturday 3rd November.

I will nominate (max) 4 races each Saturday and selections will be scored on a 3-2-1 basis for 1st, 2nd and 3rd respectively.

Person with the most points wins.

Wily will supply the first prize of a shared $50 bet.

I'll chuck in a shared $30 bet for 2nd place.

Just post your selections once I nominate the races for that Saturday (and we'll take the Flemington meeting the day after the AFL GF as a separate day).

Comp is walk in walk out any time you want to i.e. late starters accepted and if you miss a day no problems.

Good Luck!!

RULES - we have to have these.

1. If you post a number and a name and the number is wrong we correct the error and the named horse is the selection (you may have to tell us this as going by my experience when you collate results you tend to concentrate on numbers only).
2. If you post a number and no name and it is wrong bad luck.
3. Dead Heats the points are halved
4. A two way tie for a prize will split the 50% share of the bet prize.
5. Any disputes are handled internally by wily and I and if the adjudication is not acceptable it will be decided by a panel of forum moderators. That decision is final.

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wily ole dog · « 2019-Aug-22, 06:39 PM **Reply #3** »

What about something along the lines of a star stable where we pick the following

3 x 3yo colts
3 x 3yo fillies
3 x sprinters
3 x middle distance
3 x stayers
3 x wildcards

Scoring on a 5, 3, 1 basis on every race your horse consists. Starts in 3 weeks and finishes with Oaks Day as the last

???

wily ole dog · « 2019-Aug-25, 09:39 AM **Reply #4** »

Anyone with thoughts on this?

specialweek2 · « 2019-Aug-25, 10:56 AM **Reply #5** »

Quote from: wily ole dog on 2019-Aug-25, 09:39 AM

Anyone with thoughts on this?

Too hard basket imo.

wily ole dog · « 2019-Aug-25, 08:15 PM **Reply #6** »

161 views with 5 responses.............what’s wrong with people

Brian Mc · « 2019-Aug-26, 07:28 AM **Reply #7** »

Yes, Wily, I too am surprised at the lack of response.

Nevertheless, on Wednesday I'll open two threads, one for a tipping competition and one for a star stable competition.

The tipping competition will be a combination of my ideas and those of JWH. It will confined to nominated (black-type) races and use TAB dividends. More input before I tie down the details would be appreciated

The Star Stable Competition would be as suggested by Wily Ole Dog/. Maybe two rather than three horses in each of his suggested categories, but, again, I'll take further ideas aboard.

More from me on Wednesday.

Spudda028 · « 2019-Aug-26, 09:25 AM **Reply #8** »

Why confine the tipping comp to black type races? Maybe this is one of the reasons for the lack of response. Why not include 1 selection from tipster choice of venue?

The restrictive nature and lack of variety in tipping comps has been in the past and continues to be a problem on this and other forums so why restrict it?

wily ole dog · « 2019-Aug-26, 10:31 AM **Reply #9** »

Spudda
I think it’s due to the ease of keeping it simple for the person running it.

Less races to troll over to find the results. looking at 10 races a week rather than 300

JWesleyHarding · « 2019-Aug-26, 11:04 AM **Reply #10** »

As far as I'm concerned it is better to have everyone on the same field of play rather than comparing endeavours on a whole range of fields.

Golf tournaments are decided by participants all playing on the same course (or courses) rather than comparing their scorecards from a whole ranges of courses.

Each to their own but for what it's worth that's my opinion/preference.

ianb · « 2019-Aug-26, 12:38 PM **Reply #11** »

I was extremely disappointed when Sky gave up on their Star Stable idea so I'm all for whatever variation to it you can come up with Brian.

JWesleyHarding · « 2019-Aug-26, 04:53 PM **Reply #12** »

I've never been involved in "stable" comps as I imagine I would be torn in my real life betting between a stale runner or runners and a horse I believe should carry my hard-earned $s.

But that's just me.

wily ole dog · « 2019-Aug-26, 05:01 PM **Reply #13** »

2 things I didn’t like about the star stable was that if you didn’t win the cup or plate you were stuffed and everybody picks a Winx or a Mystic Journey

I suggest a 5,3,1 points basis so a good judge could pick a nice horse coming through that may win 3 or 4 races and build a good tally rather than the comp just coming g down to the big prize money races

2 x 3yo colts
2 x 3yo fillies
2 x sprinters
2 x middle distance
2 x stayers
3 x wildcards

I’ll throw in a $50 shared quaddy or multi to the winner

Gintara · « 2019-Aug-26, 05:18 PM **Reply #14** »

The star stable seems hard to manage

Whilst I liked the formula 1 style points I'm happy to play what ever is decided.

Brian Mc · « 2019-Aug-26, 05:30 PM **Reply #15** »

Quote from: wily ole dog on 2019-Aug-26, 05:01 PM

2 things I didn’t like about the star stable was that if you didn’t win the cup or plate you were stuffed and everybody picks a Winx or a Mystic Journey

I suggest a 5,3,1 points basis so a good judge could pick a nice horse coming through that may win 3 or 4 races and build a good tally rather than the comp just coming g down to the big prize money races

2 x 3yo colts
2 x 3yo fillies
2 x sprinters
2 x middle distance
2 x stayers
3 x wildcards

A very good point.
I really like what WOD is suggesting here

Brian Mc · « 2019-Aug-28, 08:26 AM **Reply #16** »

I have posted the draft rules for a Star Stable Competition on a separate thread.
Any feedback before say, next Monday, will be taken into account and the competition will be launched for September 7.

I also plan for for a week-to-week selection competition to go ahead. The final rules will be published on a dedicated thread later today.

Brian Mc · « 2019-Aug-28, 09:18 AM **Reply #17** »

I have posted the rules for a 2019 Spring weekend racing selection competition on a separate thread.

Selections should be posted on that thread.