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Offline Skybeau

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O.P. « 2015-Feb-01, 08:07 PM »
Trying to get some interest on the doggies on this site.

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« 2015-Feb-01, 08:07 PM Reply #1 »
Time for a trip down memory lane!


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« 2015-Feb-01, 08:08 PM Reply #2 »
The fastest dog in the world


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« 2015-Feb-01, 08:09 PM Reply #3 »
Nobbled by the jealous New South Welshmen!


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« 2015-Feb-01, 08:21 PM Reply #4 »
Monday night - Group 2 Shepparton Cup heats with the final being run on Sunday.

Runners in the heat include:

Warragul Cup winner - Ronray Spirit - Race 4
Warragul track record holder Dewanna Result, up and coming pup Armed And Ready - Race 5
Melbourne Cup winner Dyna Villa, Laurels winner Lamia Bale - Race 6
Astromatic and Caustic Bale - Race 7
Young pup Alex's Entity, Azza Azza Azza and Geelong Cup winner Luca Neveelk, should be a cracking heat - Race 8
NSW visitor Lady Ronray, young pup and Warragul Cup finalist Big Ticket, along with 2014 Bendigo Cup winner Warrior King - Race 9

Should be a great night's racing!

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« 2015-Feb-01, 08:32 PM Reply #5 »
The great Flying Amy


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« 2015-Feb-01, 08:36 PM Reply #6 »
What the dogs do right is the grading of races and *usually* no conflicts, so you have the best dogs racing against each other, and heats as well.

Much better organisation and hopefully in the coming years they take over the gallops...

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« 2015-Feb-01, 08:39 PM Reply #7 »
Whisky Part 1



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« 2015-Feb-01, 08:41 PM Reply #8 »
What the dogs do right is the grading of races and *usually* no conflicts, so you have the best dogs racing against each other, and heats as well.

Much better organisation and hopefully in the coming years they take over the gallops...

  :lol:

Having been involved in dogs for over 20 years there wouldn't be many trainers agree with any of that.

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« 2015-Feb-01, 09:32 PM Reply #9 »
  :lol:  

Having been involved in dogs for over 20 years there wouldn't be many trainers agree with any of that.

Beat me to it Gin. However, trainers are often their own worst enemies, arguing that black is white on Monday, then white is black on Tuesday!

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« 2015-Feb-03, 06:07 PM Reply #10 »
http://www.grv.org.au/news/2015/01/19/important-change-grading-victorian-greyhound-races/

Important Change to the Grading of Victorian Greyhound Races
Monday, 19 January, 2015
    
As Greyhound Racing Victoria’s Racing Department announced in May 2014, members are advised of an important change to the grading of greyhounds in Victoria that will come into effect later this month.

The change involves the introduction of Grade 6 and Grade 7, which are designed to afford greyhounds with the opportunity to experience more success (wins) before having to compete at Grade 5 level.
The changes are as follows:
Greyhounds that win their way out of maiden class and would normally become a Grade 5  but will now become a Grade 7.

Once a greyhound wins a race as a Grade 7, it will become a Grade 6. Grade 6 greyhounds will have won no more than one race outside of Maiden Grade (excluding Qualifying Heats).

Greyhounds can no longer compete at Grade 6 or Grade 7 level once they have won in that grade.

Once greyhounds become Grade 5 the current grading principles still apply.
GRV Racing Manager Scott Robins believes GRV members will embrace the new initiative.
“Research tells us that jumping from maiden class into Grade 5 company can be a steep climb for greyhounds, as they often find themselves drawn against greyhounds with a lot more experience than they have.”

“The introduction of these new grades will allow greyhounds that have only won in maiden class to compete only against each other (Grade 7), and those with one win outside of maiden grade will also only be able to compete against each other (Grade 6),” Robins said.

“Trainers are encouraged to nominate their greyhounds as they normally would and GRV will schedule Grade 6 and Grade 7 races based on the number of nominations.”

“While there initially won’t be any advertised events for Grade 6 and 7, as is the case with Grade 5 races there certainly will be the chance to compete in heats and finals of Grade 6 and 7 races in the near future.”

Members will be pleased to know that Grade 6 and 7 races will compete for Grade 5 prize money.

Note: There will be no non-penalty Grade 6 or Grade 7 races, however non-penalty conditions will still apply to specified Grade 5 races.
GRADE 6 AND GRADE 7 ROLLOUT
Monday 26 January at 11:30pm
- All 1 win greyhounds will be re graded to Grade 7 All Tracks and Distances
- All 2 win greyhounds will be re graded to Grade 6 All Tracks and Distances

Tuesday 27 January
- All 1 win greyhounds previously nominated for events graded today will be considered for Grade 7 events
- All 1 win greyhounds that nominate from today will be able to nominate for Grade 7 events
- All 2 win greyhounds previously nominated for events graded today will be considered for Grade 6 events
- All 2 win greyhounds that nominate from today will be able to nominate for Grade 6 events

Tuesday 27 January – Thursday 29 January
All Grade 7 greyhounds that compete in Grade 5 events (previously drawn) and win will have their grade adjusted to Grade 6
All Grade 6 greyhounds that compete in Grade 5 events (previously drawn) and win will have their grade adjusted to Grade 5

Friday 30 January onwards
- Grade 6 and Grade 7 races to be conducted

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« 2015-Feb-03, 06:35 PM Reply #11 »
Heats of the Shepparton Cup run and won last night.

Azza Azza Azza the standout first split, only a length and a half outside Vee Man Vane's record.










Place Dog Name Time First Split PIR Margin

1 RONRAY SPIRIT 25.33 6.59 1 1.40

1 ARMED AND READY 25.18 6.57 1 0.29

1 DYNA VILLA 25.18 6.53 1 0.54

1 TIGGERLONG AMIGO 25.26 6.59 1 0.75

1 AZZA AZZA AZZA 24.93 6.44 1 4.94

1 MIDNIGHT FLYNN 25.34 6.70 5 1.00

2 ALLEN MALIK 25.20 6.63 3 0.29

2 SISCO RAGE 25.22 6.67 4 0.54

2 SAMUS ALLEN 25.30 6.68 2 0.75

2 LUCA NEVEELK 25.24 6.57 2 4.94









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« 2015-Feb-03, 08:14 PM Reply #12 »
Victoria barely runs races that aren't Grade 5, Grade 4 or FFA. Why not simply allocate the Grade 6 & 7 as Grade 4 & 5, and make the current grade 3 the same as the current grade 5?

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« 2015-Feb-03, 08:48 PM Reply #13 »
I guess that allows dogs to win an extra two races. Once in grade 5 it can become hard as you can run into dogs 'dropping back' in grade  :chin:

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« 2015-Feb-04, 08:09 AM Reply #14 »
I guess that allows dogs to win an extra two races. Once in grade 5 it can become hard as you can run into dogs 'dropping back' in grade  :chin:

Yeah, I agree, I just think they should have used the 5 "grades" they have, rather than added another 2. They don't really use the 5 they had.

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« 2015-Feb-04, 05:18 PM Reply #15 »
The trouble is Mani many get stuck between 4 or 5 grades & never really progressing, just adding to a log jam. When was the last time you saw a 1st grade or 2nd grade race?

Normally those couple of dogs get thrown in with 4th graders for a FFA.


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« 2015-Feb-04, 07:35 PM Reply #16 »
The trouble is Mani many get stuck between 4 or 5 grades & never really progressing, just adding to a log jam. When was the last time you saw a 1st grade or 2nd grade race?

Normally those couple of dogs get thrown in with 4th graders for a FFA.

I agree Gin, which is what I am saying.

5th grade = 1win.
4th Grade = 2 wins.
3rd grade becomes the "standard grade, and there are only 2 grades above that which makes it more likely to get a 1st grade or 2nd grade.

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« 2015-Feb-04, 08:15 PM Reply #17 »
I thought Go Go Treetment was a good chance in race 9 tonight at Ballarat.  Would have liked to be drawn closer to the rails, a bit unlucky at The Meadows last start.

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« 2015-Feb-04, 09:45 PM Reply #18 »
Meant more so group races, freely admit i have never seen a 1st or 2nd grade race... Just meant there isnt meaningless group1s and the like for breeders.


still probably have nfi what im talking about but

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« 2015-Feb-08, 06:06 PM Reply #19 »
A big night for Victorian trainers out West last night, taking out 3 of the feature races and the Derby at WP

My Bro Fabio trained by Brooke Ennis, took out the $210,000 Perth Cup last night running 30.34.  Time not super, but good enough to take home $140,000.

Space Star trainined by Rob Britton won the Galaxy by a bit over a length from the much improved Lady Toy, taking home $80,000.

Smart youngster Dyna Double One trained by Andrea Dailly took out the Perth Consolation final, pocketing $25,000 for the win.

Dailly also took out the Derby at WP with Fernando Bale who earned $75,000 for the win

Zipping Midge won the Futurity, taking home $75,000 with Dailly having 2nd, 3rd and 4th across the line.


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« 2015-Feb-08, 06:13 PM Reply #20 »
The Shepparton Cup final kicks off in just under two hours with $45,000 to the winner.

Fixed odds betting seems to suggest it's a two dog race between Azza Azza Azza $1.95 and Melbourne Cup winner Dyna Villa $2.50.

I think Armed And Ready is a big chance off the pink.  Should avoid any carnage and I think will improve on his heat run, currently $6.50 fixed odds.

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« 2015-Feb-08, 06:53 PM Reply #21 »
Nice start to a career, 29.71 at its first start in a Maiden Heat.  Related to reasonable stayer Zipping Rory.

https://fasttrack.grv.org.au/Dog/Form/240970044
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« 2015-Feb-09, 03:51 AM Reply #22 »
My Bro Fabio trained by Brooke Ennis, took out the $210,000 Perth Cup last night running 30.34.  Time not super, but good enough to take home $140,000.

Couldn't believe it paid $4.70 on the NSW TAB  :clap2:

Saw the trainer interviewed a few weeks back. She is a wonderful young lass (couldn't be much older than my oldest girl who is 18) and absolutely loves her dog. Have been a fan ever since. Her dog would have to one of the best in the country, if not the best.

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« 2015-Feb-10, 06:13 PM Reply #23 »
http://fasttrack.grv.org.au/RaceVideo/RaceVideo/1177960085

Azza Azza Azza took out the G2 Shepparton Cup on Sunday night earning $45,000.

Dyna Villa no chance after not being flash away


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« 2015-Feb-12, 07:01 PM Reply #24 »
Nice start to a career, 29.71 at its first start in a Maiden Heat.  Related to reasonable stayer Zipping Rory.

https://fasttrack.grv.org.au/Dog/Form/240970044

A bit patchy and green in its action, but got the job done.  Could get further.


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