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Online wily ole dog

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O.P. « 2014-Nov-18, 07:23 PM »
Anyone got an interest in this?

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« 2014-Nov-28, 05:12 PM Reply #1 »
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http://www.richmondpuppyauction.com.au/catalogue/4584499680

Any input into the pedigrees. I'm tempted. The lady I spoke to the other day said I could rear it at home until it's ready to go to a trainer. Surely that's not advisable  :lol:

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« 2014-Nov-28, 06:28 PM Reply #2 »
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http://www.richmondpuppyauction.com.au/catalogue/4584499680

Any input into the pedigrees. I'm tempted. The lady I spoke to the other day said I could rear it at home until it's ready to go to a trainer. Surely that's not advisable  :lol:

Mate looking after a pup is the best fun in the world. You should do it   emthup

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« 2014-Nov-28, 08:12 PM Reply #3 »
Mate looking after a pup is the best fun in the world. You should do it   emthup

:no:

Send it to a reputable rarer. It's what they do after all.


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« 2014-Nov-28, 08:23 PM Reply #4 »
Wily, a few things to consider.

While it happens in all auctions, it's seems more prevalent in the dogs that there will be plenty of 'buy backs' .... breeders just put their dogs through the ring to qualify for the race series.

Breeding is one factor but unlike horses it's not as critical in dogs, yes a good line is a chance of throwing on but more important IMHO is the dams ability to run.  :chin:

There was stats produced 10 or so years ago that stated you were something like 1 in 35 of getting a city winner but if the dam of that pup is a city winner herself, the probability comes down to around 1 in 9.

I used to have a time standard of 30.60 at Wenty, I wouldn't breed or buy from something that couldn't run that. That time has obviously changed with the track improvements, so I'd say that a minimum would be 30.20 or even closer to 30.00

So look for something that could run, more than something that was related to this or that.




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« 2014-Nov-28, 08:49 PM Reply #5 »
Gin

What about a staying bitch that also won sprint races? In particular im looking at lot 2. Got all the good boys in the pedigree. Collision and Brett Lee on the sire and Bombastic Shiraz on the dams side

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« 2014-Nov-28, 09:02 PM Reply #6 »
It's a strong line, I'd doubt it would be truly for sale  :shrug:

Just remember as a rule all sires are good / fast, they don't get bred with otherwise, it's the dam line you need to focus on.

12 maybe ok? Dam was outcrossed to Irish blood then crossed back to Aussie speed, she has had 4 litters so far so if she hasn't thrown in the first 3, not much chance in the 4th.

18 as well   emthup


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« 2014-Nov-28, 09:11 PM Reply #7 »
Pity the catalogue isn't more in depth to evaluate those things

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« 2014-Nov-30, 09:41 AM Reply #8 »
Wily,

I tend to think not just stayers who can sprint, but stayers in general make good dams. One other thing I would look at, and Gin I'd like your thoughts as well, is the number of starts the sire had. As Gin said, they can all run, but if you go with a sire with a minimal number of starts, you risk getting a dog that can run but can barely gets to the track.

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« 2014-Nov-30, 02:33 PM Reply #9 »
Gin

What about a staying bitch that also won sprint races? In particular im looking at lot 2. Got all the good boys in the pedigree. Collision and Brett Lee on the sire and Bombastic Shiraz on the dams side

Wily, I should have elaborated on this, for what it's worth, very few stayers (good that is) don't not win sprints or 500s on their way through to the 'longs'

A dog that can run time over 700, normally will have run time over 500m etc

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« 2014-Nov-30, 02:40 PM Reply #10 »
Mani, I do prefer them to have raced on a bit as the traits become more evident before they rush off to stud.

There's no way I'd breed to Shaky Jakey (yet) yes he ran the hands off the clock but it was basically a solo trial against some average opposition. He looked clumsy early and against other quality would be a risk in a field early.

Those traits are a chance of coming through in his pups.


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« 2014-Dec-01, 08:25 PM Reply #11 »
Did you go Wily?

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« 2014-Dec-01, 08:43 PM Reply #12 »
No mate, I gave it a miss. The ones I was probably interested in were withdrawn.

I noted your 2 suggestions went for 5K & 8K. WEll above the average for the sale


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