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Offline Gintara

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« 2018-Jul-13, 12:04 AM Reply #476 »
Dog mass grave 'shows nothing changed'


Anyone know who it is?

No names have come out yet. Speculation is a retired 79 year old who's been in hospital (cancer)

Typical hysterical reports that leave out the above. Supposedly a registered trainer which opens up the question, when was the last kennel inspection? Speak with anyone, generally it's every 6 months. I haven't raced a dog since 2007 yet still hold a licence and have had 2 unannounced inspections from stewards in the last year - I don't even have kennels   :lol:  just a lone oldie roaming the backyard. So I'd be very surprised if he was still registered which would explain the lack of inspections.

Whilst the neglect is unacceptable to anyone with half a brain looking at the photos you don't see racing greyhounds but plenty of 'grey beards' or retirees. Purely speculating but it looks like a case of where he's become unable to or afford to look after them.

None of that seems to matter to the RSPCA who use this as nothing more than a headline to garner more donations  :mad: You only have to look at their FB post, noting the emotive language used and check the 3rd paragraph - there's the donate now button.  emthdown

This mob show be reporting the facts, not playing political games in the pursuit of cash.  emthdown

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« 2018-Jul-13, 02:18 AM Reply #477 »

Whilst the neglect is unacceptable to anyone with half a brain looking at the photos you don't see racing greyhounds but plenty of 'grey beards' or retirees. Purely speculating but it looks like a case of where he's become unable to or afford to look after them.


It has the feel of one of those "cat lady" stories you get from time to time where someone who is too old - or some other reason - cannot take on the animals they surround themselves with, and are usually unaware of the situation they are creating.

The "jump straight for the throat" approach by sections of social media, and mainstream media, has the hallmarks of the black hat vs white hat, good vs evil, devil vs. God, right vs wrong over simplified classifications that have been staged in recent years via the media.

Case needs to be taken on it's merits before extrapolating to every greyhound owner and trainer in the state or the country.

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« 2018-Jul-13, 06:49 AM Reply #478 »
It has the feel of one of those "cat lady" stories you get from time to time where someone who is too old - or some other reason - cannot take on the animals they surround themselves with, and are usually unaware of the situation they are creating.

The "jump straight for the throat" approach by sections of social media, and mainstream media, has the hallmarks of the black hat vs white hat, good vs evil, devil vs. God, right vs wrong over simplified classifications that have been staged in recent years via the media.

Case needs to be taken on it's merits before extrapolating to every greyhound owner and trainer in the state or the country.

Couldn't have said it better myself   emthup

Sadly the RSPCA / ABC / SMH etc can't wait to lay the boot into the industry as a whole and you can bet they won't retract, correct or apologise if they have reported this wrong  :mad:

I take offence (who would know   :lol:  ) to the way the case is reported via the RSPCA, they need to take a leaf out of the Police and simply report the facts, this emotive, cash driven type post is just a disgrace  emthdown

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« 2018-Jul-13, 08:18 AM Reply #479 »
The phenomena of people having too many pets to care for is so common that it is actually referred to as Animal Hoarding and there is a Wiki entry that describes it well. It is considered by many to be a form of mental illness rather than falling into the category of animal cruelty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_hoarding

Animal hoarding is keeping a higher-than-usual number of animals as domestic pets without ability to properly house or care for them, while at the same time denying this inability. Compulsive hoarding can be characterized as a symptom of mental disorder rather than deliberate cruelty towards animals. Hoarders are deeply attached to their pets and find it extremely difficult to let the pets go. They typically cannot comprehend that they are harming their pets by failing to provide them with proper care. Hoarders tend to believe that they provide the right amount of care for them


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« 2018-Aug-14, 06:01 PM Reply #480 »
]Trainer who doped greyhounds with EPO has 12-year ban cut to 30 months
After prominent NSW greyhound trainer Melinda Finn was busted four times for doping her dogs with a potentially lethal performance-enhancing drug, she felt the full might of racing authorities last December, copping a 12-year disqualification from the sport.

But Fairfax Media can now reveal that, at a time when the industry is trying to demonstrate it has turned a corner in terms of animal cruelty and cheating, a Racing Appeals Tribunal not only upheld her appeal last month, it downgraded her penalty by almost a decade to two years and six months.
While Greyhound Racing NSW said on Friday it does not comment on appeal decisions, Fairfax Media is aware of "deep disappointment" within its ranks over the controversial ruling.

Mrs Finn is married to trainer John Finn, who was also banished from the sport in 2015 over a $73,000 debt to Greyhound Racing NSW, the majority of which was won by his dog Winsome Charlee which returned a positive urine sample after winning a semi-final of the 2013 "Golden Easter Egg".

In December last year, Mrs Finn earned the unenviable distinction of becoming the first person in the industry to be found guilty of injecting dogs with Recombinant Human Erythropoietin (EPO). The stimulant, which was the drug of choice for disgraced Tour de France cycling cheat Lance Armstrong, feeds increased oxygen to muscles by stimulating red blood cells. Cyclists have suffered fatal blood clots, thrombosis, strokes and heart attacks through its abuse. On four occasions at Sydney's Wentworth Park during 2015, Mrs Finn's greyhounds returned positive samples of the banned substance.

After her guilty plea, Mrs Finn was banned by Greyhound Racing NSW stewards for a total of 117 weeks for each charge. She was also hit with an additional 156 weeks disqualification due to cumulative aggravating factors.

However, while David Armati of the Racing Appeals Tribunal referred to the case as being a "most serious matter" and observed there is "no place for this drug in a greyhound", he said penalty guidelines indicated a three-year starting point was "appropriate".

The tribunal also accepted that the proceedings had a "profound effect" on Mrs Finn.

"That profound effect can give greater levels of comfort that repetition will not take place," Mr Armati said." SMH March 26 2017[/i][/color]

Unbelievable!
Industry can't rid itself of crooks.

Meanwhile back at the ranch the winners keep coming.

 At least Lance Armstrong has told the world about micro-dosing.
 Minnie can't have been listening.

GRNSW not happy .
Must be very embarrassing for GRNSW to have this kennel representing NSW in the National Distance finals.

Could be worse though because their dog was runner-up in the state sprint final as well.

Worse still if they get to chase the million dollar taxpayer funded race in October.

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« 2018-Aug-14, 06:17 PM Reply #481 »
Must be very embarrassing for GRNSW to have this kennel representing NSW in the National Distance finals.

Could be worse though because their dog was runner-up in the state sprint final as well.

Worse still if they get to chase the million dollar taxpayer funded race in October.

Not sure how you come to a conclusion that GRNSW would be embarrassed?  :chin:


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« 2018-Aug-14, 06:30 PM Reply #482 »
Not sure how you come to a conclusion that GRNSW would be embarrassed?  :chin:
As the controlling body they might have to defend it through the media at some stage.

I'm not sure if you are a participant still, but are you comfortable with it?

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« 2018-Aug-14, 09:27 PM Reply #483 »
I'll kick GRNSW at every chance but it's hard to have a go at them when they gave her 12 years but had it docked by 10 on appeal  :o

I've only got 1 'oldie' in the backyard and another about to come home from the farm. She deserves her chance at being a mum but I'm not sure I can be bothered with the hoops you need to jump through.

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« 2018-Aug-14, 10:17 PM Reply #484 »
Gintara,  I wasn't having a go at GRNSW ....I was sympathising with them. 8-)



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« 2018-Aug-15, 12:42 AM Reply #485 »
Point of reference,

Tribunal surely has not got 3 years out of thin air .

If they want to fix it it is very simple - if found guilty... out for life - black and white and very simple.

Give the tribunal no wriggle room.

Fours

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« 2018-Aug-15, 07:14 AM Reply #486 »
Point of reference,

Tribunal surely has not got 3 years out of thin air .

If they want to fix it it is very simple - if found guilty... out for life - black and white and very simple.

Give the tribunal no wriggle room.

Fours
I agree,

GRNSW obviously wanted to make an absolute example of her and were not supported by the tribunal.

EPO is basically an undetectable drug so you can only imagine how much the 4 dogs were given.
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« 2018-Aug-15, 10:18 AM Reply #487 »
Point of reference,

Tribunal surely has not got 3 years out of thin air .

If they want to fix it it is very simple - if found guilty... out for life - black and white and very simple.

Give the tribunal no wriggle room.

Fours

It's one of the troubles Fours, the industry tries to make an example yet are overruled. Then the industry continues to get pillarized for allowing the cheats to remain  :shutup:  :wacko:

Gintara,  I wasn't having a go at GRNSW ....I was sympathising with them. 8-)


I was going to say gnashing their teeth maybe, not so much embarrassed.    emthup

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« 2018-Aug-15, 11:34 AM Reply #488 »
A cynical conspiracy theorist,

would suggest that things are exactly how the powers that be want them to be.

That is have the APPEARANCE of being serious about it but also ensuring that the eventually reality means the crooks can stay.

Fours


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