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Offline KD

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O.P. « 2009-Feb-24, 08:49 PM »
I've been punting for 25 years...and I'd say "pound for pound"...jockeys/reinsmen...Daryl Douglas is the best I've seen.
I saw a freakish drive in Race 4 on a 7/1 pop tonight at Mildura...unfaaaarkin'believable...and the bloke follows up with another gem on a 6/1 pop in the 7th. I doubt any other reinsmen could have got these 2 horses up tonight...not even Gavin Lang.

Unfortunately I don't idolise the man. I've seen many a dodgy drive where I've lost my hard earned on things that have been "morals" on paper...it's happened way to many times with him over the years. I never anchor a Quaddie with a D.Douglas drivven horse  :)

If 'Dasher' is fair dinkum...in my opinion he is the best around at what he does.

Any thoughts ?

KD

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« 2009-Feb-24, 09:06 PM Reply #1 »
He's just carried another one home in the last to make it 4...it had no form...unknown trainer...odds on fave loomed up and took the lead but he lifted his horse to the line.

A freak !   :noteworthy:

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« 2009-Feb-24, 09:13 PM Reply #2 »
Fear not, he'll be back in your bad books before too long.  ;)

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« 2009-Feb-24, 09:14 PM Reply #3 »
Only issue I've seen with dasher was many years ago one thursday night meeting he was on one that literally had no form in 40 starts was backing up only 3-4 days since previous run.

No one no matter who they were could've had it as anything but a 20/1+ shot. It record was woeful and all in C0's.

In the last few minutes it firmed on the totes from the right odds(in the 40's) to start about $3 on all totes.

It won and I have no doubt the race was back then was, lets just say, extremely suspect. It would've been a leg of the vic quaddie as well as it was in the middle of the program.

Just one of them things I remember.

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« 2009-Feb-24, 09:49 PM Reply #4 »
will never be as good as kerryn manning/gath/manning   :lol:

her ego alone drives better than she does   :lol:

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« 2009-Feb-25, 08:20 AM Reply #5 »
Know him personally and actually lived in the same place for 12 months.  Would be my number 1 choice everyday of the week as he was previously before crossing to puppet to train them...
His commitment to being the best is unsurpassed in the sport as does 150,000kms a year going from track to track to drive winner after wineer and try and get to 400 in a year.

I remember going out one day doing fastwork with Bruce Morgan (Denver Gift fame) and he saying daryl, I want you to lead and run 1/4's in 32 and then work home. Got off the track at lords raceway and coming back Bruce says... Perfect Daryl....Oh, Where's ya stopwatch. Daryl looked at him and said " In my head"....We had gone 32 and 32 exactly...

Bottom line he is a great driver and a great bloke that was basically born in a sulky like his old man and just loves the sport.

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« 2009-Feb-25, 09:37 AM Reply #6 »
I doubt any other reinsmen could have got these 2 horses up tonight...not even Gavin Lang.


G Lang would have had them in winning positions earlier in the race.

KD, I suggest you find some footage of Lang over the years, he's done it in feature races, not just some obscure race at Mildura.

He also turns losers into winners without the use of drugs   :biggrin:

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« 2009-Mar-11, 06:38 PM Reply #7 »
The  :censored:  wit didn't show any dash on odds on pop Question This in the trotters at Echuca tonight.
The first thing the stewards should be doing is Questionning the drive.
The bloke wasn't even interested in trying to make ground the last lap before flashing home for 4th or 5th spot.
I don't bet in trotters races normally, let alone odds on ones, and I will never ever do it again.
DD is a  :censored: , a real big  :censored: , I can't handle the  :censored:
 :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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« 2009-Mar-11, 06:43 PM Reply #8 »
The  :censored:  wit didn't show any dash on odds on pop Question This in the trotters at Echuca tonight.
The first thing the stewards should be doing is Questionning the drive.
The bloke wasn't even interested in trying to make ground the last lap before flashing home for 4th or 5th spot.
I don't bet in trotters races normally, let alone odds on ones, and I will never ever do it again.
DD is a  :censored: , a real big  :censored: , I can't handle the  :censored:
 :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I may be wrong, but u seem a touch angry mate   :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-11, 06:47 PM Reply #9 »
It was definitely an odds on chance, and when it was in the red on BF I just had to back it. If it was in the black around 6/4 I would have laid it.  :mad:

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« 2009-Mar-11, 07:07 PM Reply #10 »
So the  :censored:  comes out and wins the next race paying $4.70 on the scab  :mad: :mad: :mad:

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« 2009-Mar-11, 07:32 PM Reply #11 »
So the  :censored:  comes out and wins the next race paying $4.70 on the scab  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Take a chill pill larsy.  Think about Forty Twenty breaking the track record this saturday night  :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-11, 07:45 PM Reply #12 »
Larsy could you be a bit more direct and stop beating around the bush  :o

"Question this" would make Liberace look butch. In the past I have backed him and twice he has finished tailed off with astrial fibrulation (close enough). So I have banned him for life and wouldn't back him in a one horse race. As for Darryl I reckon he would eat a winner but sometimes he does crack the  :censored:


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« 2009-Mar-11, 07:47 PM Reply #13 »
He just seems to do me a bad turn whenever i'm involved in a race that he's involved in.
I just can't stand the bloke.

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« 2009-Mar-11, 08:49 PM Reply #14 »
ECHUCA Summary
R1 - no drive
R2 - 3rd - win tote $17.00
R3 - unp - win tote $1.70
R4 - 1st - win tote $4.70
R5 - no drive
R6 - 2nd - win tote $1.90
R7 - 1st - win tote $5.20
R8 - 1st - win tote $4.00

6 drives, rolled on 2 odds on, 3 winners averaging 4/1, 3rd on a 16/1 chance.
He's an  :censored:
« Last Edit: 2009-Mar-11, 09:07 PM by OldLarsy »

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« 2009-Mar-12, 07:35 AM Reply #15 »
Was a shocker on that odds on pop lasry.. :nowink:

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« 2009-Mar-12, 09:08 AM Reply #16 »
So why does he fall asleep on one that i'm on?
Maybe too much travelling   :biggrin:

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« 2009-Mar-12, 10:03 AM Reply #17 »
ECHUCA Summary
R1 - no drive
R2 - 3rd - win tote $17.00
R3 - unp - win tote $1.70
R4 - 1st - win tote $4.70
R5 - no drive
R6 - 2nd - win tote $1.90
R7 - 1st - win tote $5.20
R8 - 1st - win tote $4.00

6 drives, rolled on 2 odds on, 3 winners averaging 4/1, 3rd on a 16/1 chance.
He's an  :censored:


Larsy...
You are not making yourself look very smart here...
For a start do you honestly think that the horses he drives at meeting in the bush are the right prices???
He and Kerryn horses run around all the time odds on due to all the sillys in the TAB's looking at the form and just backing the horse as they are driven by them. To the point alot of even money chances you bank your quaddies on are actually 5/2 chances if M.Bellman or S Dyer were driving. The punters are happy to take under because the bloke drives 300+ winners a year...

To back yourself up you use an example where he drove a treble....OMFG

Go jump in a cart with 500kg in front of you travelling at 60kmh and having to make split second decisions and see how you go....
Think you should stop talking through your pocket all the time or get to a trot meeting ( I am sure Dasher will be there ) go up and say hi to the bloke, I assure you after 5 mins with him you won't have the same opinion...I am with Geoff, He is awesome for the sport   emthup

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« 2009-Mar-12, 10:18 AM Reply #18 »
Denzel,
I know they're always less odds than if a lesser driver was on board, what i'm saying is he didn't give Question This every opportunity to win the race.
He sat back at the rear and didn't get going til the point of the turn, before rattling home out wide going to the line better than anything.
It was odds on in betting on Betfair, the best guide in the business imo.
I did say I would have laid it if it was around 6/4 with BF, because I believe, Douglas or no Douglas, it was an odds on chance.
As far as making a split second decision was concerned, that's crap, you obviously didn't view the race in question.
He had an opprtunity at the bell to take a 3 wide trail into the race which he didn't, then allowed the horse inside him to pull 3 wide off the back before coming even wider around the turn.
He's in the light blue colours running second last going out of the straight.

Click on Race 3 last lap replay

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=EC110309&ms=vic

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« 2009-Mar-12, 01:42 PM Reply #19 »

Larsy....
I know Daryl so for me i was more taking offense at ( DD is a   , a real big   , I can't handle the    ) abuse towards him personally. Maybe you should also watch any of his 914 winners in a little over the last 2.5 years  ( A staggering amount actually) and not judge him on 1 drive which after watching the race at the time and then the replay clearly didn't warrant your commets....

You did realise that the horse galloped in the run on a turn and had to tack back on Larsy??? Then when he pulled out the driver on Starlight Lee 25/1 decided to pull out in front of him and just get in his way.. The horse was flat at 400m then he tried to nurse it round the turn as had galloped on first corner.. The only eason it finished so close as they ran 31.4 last 1/4...
If you want to hurl abusive comments at one of the best drivers in the country (and a friend) then make sure you know what you are on about as even you stated you don't bet on trots much...

Like i said in another post...He is the number 1 pick on my horses everyday of the week......

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« 2009-Mar-12, 01:51 PM Reply #20 »
I bet on Pacers, seldom Trotters.
I've been following them for 35 years, I guess a lot longer than you.
Listen Denzel, just cause he's your 'mate' means bugger all, i'm sure he is a nice fellow, just like a lot of nice fellows you've probably bagged over the years, ie Jockeys, drivers, trainers, footy players, golfers etc.
I'm entitled to dislike someone's performance, just like anyone else.

If you have your hard earned on a footy match and your team bombs a try on fulltime which would have given them the win, do you sit there and say oh well that's unfortunate, or do you call the player that dropped the ball all the names under the sun?
Now be truthful

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« 2009-Mar-12, 06:17 PM Reply #21 »

Larsy...
If you re-read your post you attacked him as a person...Not only his drive....but no worries....We will agree to disagree....

One other thing though....Not sure how your punting must be going if you punt like you said earlier..
when it was in the red on BF I just had to back it. If it was in the black around 6/4 I would have laid it.

When i bet, my philosophy is complete opposite to this theory if i have an opinion on a horse...I am not influenced by betfair market at all...
Ooooopsss as I type a Fave at Geelong in race 2 gets rolled with being traded at 1.40 on betfair....Lucky you were not thinking of laying it at 6/4 as you may just have backed that one also because others were  :wacko:... ....  emthup

Good luck

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« 2009-Mar-12, 06:21 PM Reply #22 »
You avoided my question

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« 2009-Mar-12, 06:47 PM Reply #23 »

He also turns losers into winners without the use of drugs    25/2

The    wit didn't show any dash 9/3

DD is a   , a real big   , I can't handle the  9/3

You had an uneducated opinion on Daryl well before an uneducated opinon on his drive if you didn't take into account that horse had galloped in the race and had to catch the field ( Yet you expected him to go 4 wide at 800m )...

I haven't answered your question as there is no reason to.....Like i said...Agree to Disagree     


P.S Daryl and Glen are not the same person....Just incase you hadn't realised that either...Daryl drives/ Glen trains.......Move On   emthup


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« 2009-Mar-12, 06:51 PM Reply #24 »
I'll answer it for you.

Of course you've called sportsmen, that you have never met, names that have done you a bad turn.
And don't deny it


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