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Offline arakaan

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O.P. « 2008-Dec-10, 03:05 PM »
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From: vorogue  (Original Message) Sent: 21/11/2003 9:14 PM
a pacer ran tonight at the gold coast, having it's first start for 5 years, and having it's 267th start  it ran about 5th, i can't recall an older horse still running around in my time
 
3 MAKER FUSE ($5000) FT
TRUSTMAKER USA - POLLY FUSE BAY GELDING 16YRS C39 M18
WHITE, YELLOW HORSESHOE & SLEEVES, WHITE ARMBANDS
Owner: F Klazema, H Klazema
Trainer: FRANK KLAZEMA (KARRABIN) Driver: RICK GORDON
- LT: 266-65-56 TS: 0-0-0 LS: 0-0-0 LTS: $205053
8-10 ALBPARK 03OCT98 2100MS FT br2 M4+ Garry Lefoe btn 28 1/4m 40/1 wnr ULTRA SOKY NZ FT br10 (1:58.0), 2nd POCKET BATTLESHIP NZ FT br9, , 3rd horse 3 wide at bell.
5-10 GOLDCST 13OCT98 1609MS FT br2 FFA Garry Lefoe btn 12 1/2m 16/1 wnr SON OF PEARL FT br9 (1:57.0), 2nd JOURNEYS END FT br1, , 1 out - 2 back at bell.
9-10 ROCKLEA 17OCT98 2244SS FT br10 FFA Garry Lefoe btn 16m 20/1 wnr FULL OF PROMISES NZ FT br2 (2:05.1), 2nd ABIDE FT br4, .
1-9 GOLDCST 20OCT98 2100MS FT br1 C9+ Garry Lefoe (2:00.8) 1 3/4m, 4 1/2m 9/2 2nd MAGIC BUBBLE FT br3, 3rd YORKTOWN NZ FT br4, , leader at bell, pre-race blood test, shifted out under pressure, swabbed.
5-10 GOLDCST 27OCT98 2100MS FT br10 C10+ Garry Lefoe btn 15m 7/1 wnr BRETT ANTHONY FT br3 (2:00.8), 2nd SPEEDY LORD NZ FT br8, , 1 out - 2 back at bell.


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From: NineMSN NicknameGweilo8 Sent: 21/11/2003 9:56 PM
A 16yo....unbelievable...and it sounds like he ran a competitive race?

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From: Buglet Sent: 22/11/2003 11:05 AM
I had an  Arab mare that was a winning campdrafter at the age of 24
Not quite the same as racing but pretty good anyway.
The vet said he would have thought she was about 15yo, except I had the registered  papers for her. She was a cool pony (well horse)

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From: NineMSN Nicknamenan  Sent: 22/11/2003 8:57 PM
Thanks for that, Vo, I heard them talking about it and interviewing owner
and trainer on Radio TAB on Thursday but missed the name of the horse.
 
Unbelievable isn't it?  I also can't remember the story behind it because the
kids were carrying on and I missed quite a bit of it.

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From: vorogue Sent: 28/11/2003 9:00 PM
Maker Fuse ran around at the coast again tonight, led from barrier 1 till well into the straight and was run down by the sprint-laner and finished 2nd.
 
Runner (Hcp or Draw) $ Win Place   Runner (Hcp or Draw) $ Win Place
1. Maker Fuse 12.60 3.00   5. Myola Tiara 81.10 14.40
2. Delightful Genghis 4.80 2.50   6. Late Changes 4.20 2.60
3. Texas Fella 3.00 1.80   7. Auditors Corner 8.70 4.20
4. Motoring With Marty 5.10 2.60  

01 JACK CADE/JUST AN    
       EXCUSE CLM PCE       
         2100 Metres        
           7:10pm           


    WIN/PLACE
      2      4.80     2.50  
      1...............   3.00  
      3.............     N.T.D.  

(2) DELIGHTFUL GENGHIS (A.MCCARTHY)
(1) MAKER FUSE (R.GORDON)
(3) TEXAS FELLA (S.KUNDE)


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From: NineMSN NicknameKeepersLegend Sent: 28/11/2003 10:29 PM
The last racehorse I part-owned we were racing until he was 11 in South Australia.
 
His name was Pataudi and he was quite competitive and in his last few seasons would have done much better if not for v.ordinary rides and average placement by his trainer.
 
He loved it and thrived on being in work.
 
KL
 
 

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From: Geoff Sent: 29/11/2003 9:29 AM
Keepers
Pataudi.       Why so named? Eye problem maybe?

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From: NineMSN NicknameKeepersLegend Sent: 30/11/2003 10:48 AM
Named after the Nawab of Pataudi - great Indian Wicket Keeper (Cricket) from years and years ago !!
 
I didnt name him - it was before I got into him.
 
His sire was Keepers !!
 
KL

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From: Geoff Sent: 1/12/2003 8:01 AM
The reason I suggested an eye problem was that the younger Nawab of Pataudi a wonderful  stylish batsman from the 60s and 70s had sight in only one eye.
He wasn't a keeper maybe his father who also played international cricket was.
 
  

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From: NineMSN NicknameKeepersLegend Sent: 1/12/2003 10:40 AM
Hi Geoff,
 
Well after investigation at my end.............you are right on the money !!
 
Both he and his father were both batsman !!...............neither kept !!
 
The guy that owned Pataudi always said it was a play on Keepers that led him to call him Pataudi............that the Nawab of Pataudi was a keeper as well as captain etc etc........
 
I just read on cricketinfo.com re his eye problem etc...........what a great cricketer he must have been with that impediment to still average 34 in test cricket.........
 
Incidentally the guy we owned Pataudi with also owned a horse called RED HOPE who was a GUN sprinter in Melb and SA..........didnt have a part of him though, although it would have been handy seeing he earnt over $500k
 
Cheers mate
KL

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From: NineMSN Nicknamebetsmallandenjoy Sent: 3/01/2004 6:59 PM
On old horses- there was a 21 year old trotter who raced in the 70's called Kyogle Wirra. I think the stewards insisted that the owner retire the horse.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 12/01/2004 7:15 AM
Belated debut - Sweet 16 and never been raced

c/ Herald Sun
12jan04

WHICH horse in Australia would have been the most discussed and raised the most eyebrows in the past few days?

One of the Magic Millions winners, perhaps? Or Reset? Or St Elmo's Fire?

Well, maybe, but probably not.

The nod would go to Knock And See, a 16-year-old entire who, yesterday, made his racetrack debut in a 1200m maiden at the Balnarring picnic fixture.

That's right! Sixteen!

It didn't win, mind you. In fact, Knock And See ran last.

But he didn't collapse, either, and his recovery rate after the event would have pleased most health-check doctors around the straight.

Knock And See was a touch reluctant to enter the starting stalls and didn't jump all that briskly.

But part-owner and trainer Ron Mahoney had a quick explanation for that.

"Well, he'll be much better for the experience, of course," Mahoney noted.

"You should remember that although he might be old, he is a baby in his mind."

Mahoney, in fact, was pleased with the horse's overdue first run, endured a lengthy "grilling" from the stewards, agreed to the presentation of another barrier certificate and said he would proceed with the horse's long-awaited racing career.

Mahoney bred this amazing 16-year-old and, according to the many relations who were at the track yesterday, was determined to get the horse to the racetrack.

"He's quite stubborn," his granddaughter Jane understated.

Mahoney admitted last week that the horse had suffered several setbacks along the way and, at times, he had lost track of just how old he was getting.

But there had been only one serious injury and Mahoney was confident the horse would eventually get to race.

"And despite the fact he ran last, I was quite pleased with the effort. He will be better when he can get over longer distances," he said.

"As for the stewards' grilling, I can cope with that. I'm 76," he said with a grin.

So it's quite likely that Knock And See, who carries the quaint stable nickname "Junior", will be seen racing again before the end of the summer.

And for whoever named this lightly raced veteran, it was fitting that he eventually got to appear in a racebook. Knock And See is by Anyone Home.


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From: Geoff Sent: 1/02/2004 9:24 AM
Globe Derby 31/01 Race 3 (a claiming mobile) won by Holy Chip a 13 year old.
Race 7 a Trotters won by Avatar also a 13 year old.
 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamelookslikedenzel Sent: 4/02/2004 9:26 PM
Gee....Two 13 year olds winning at 1 meeting...Can't afford Inter Dominion next year...
 
Harness racing is just thriving in S.A .....
 
Who is accountable for this.....Someone must stand up...

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From: vorogue Sent: 14/12/2004 10:54 PM
they're mere youngsters compared to the one that ran in the last at Harvey (WA) trots tonight...the poor beast was off a 20 meter handicap too 
 

10

I WISH

BR G 15

Robert Britza -

20

Blue, White Cross & Blue Sleeves

$7182   TS: 3-0-0  

Black Irish-Leahs Lass

8TH

BUNBURY

16Nov

2100

 

MS FT8

$43.8

Sandshe Willy

81.4m

2-01.0

10TH

BYFORD

21Nov

2150

 

MS FT3

$30.4

Virgil Kane

58.2m

2-01.9

9TH

BRDTOWN

05Dec

1784

 

MS FT8

$78.9

Class Mate

36.5m

2-03.5


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« 2008-Dec-10, 03:07 PM Reply #1 »
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From: NineMSN NicknamePoisonPen7 Sent: 15/12/2004 12:34 AM
The caller mentioned that Vo - was listening in on the drive home from work. Ran 2nd last despite my willing him on, beating home a galloper. Hope the old fella still enjoys it.
 
Can't believe he was driven by someone called Virgil Kane 2 starts back.
 
 Virgil Kane is the name, and I served on the Danville train
Till Stoneman's cavalry came........
 
The night they drove old Dixie Down, and all the bells were ringin'
 
I suppose very few forumites would have even heard of Joan Baez, let alone listened to her.

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From: richo Sent: 15/12/2004 8:09 AM
Poison you sang that so well the only trouble is gulp  i remember it, guess i'm like the old horses this threads about .lol

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From: NineMSN NicknamePoisonPen7 Sent: 15/12/2004 8:24 AM
Joan was a beautiful petite brunette with one of the most magnificent voices you'll ever hear, Richo. Think the song was circa late 60s.
 
She's probably the same age as I Wish in human years now.....

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From: NineMSN NicknameAlonzoMosely Sent: 15/12/2004 1:41 PM
Maker Fuse had his last start in Jan 04...1993 was his best year when he competed in the Inter-Dominion series, he also ran 6th in the Qld Pacing Championship (beaten only 5.5m by Warrior Khan, Jack Morris & Weona Warrior) and won the Lord Mayors' Cup, all at Albion Park
 
I obviously have way too much time on my hands

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From: NineMSN Nicknamelookslikedenzel Sent: 15/12/2004 6:13 PM
Poison Pen and Richo.....
 
Just wondering if you got a letter off the queen when you turned 100    ?????
 
Who the hell is Joan Baez and as for those lyrics.......
 
I bet you both still play records as well........

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From: specialweek Sent: 15/12/2004 7:19 PM
lld, when I was young the young got no respect, now that I am older still no respect.
PP and richo may feel the same cause I know who Joan Baez is perhaps we're all waiting for respect.

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From: richo Sent: 15/12/2004 8:45 PM
well denzel i think the 60's and the 70's were the best two decades of the century and I consider myself lucky to have been there.

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From: NineMSN NicknamePoisonPen7 Sent: 15/12/2004 8:55 PM
Don't worry about it Richo, the young are just pissed off because they missed out on the pre-aids era of "Free Love"......

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From: NineMSN NicknamePoisonPen7 Sent: 15/12/2004 9:03 PM
lol Denzel, I'm only 43, and I don't consider that middle aged yet - even if it is getting harder to do up my shoelaces
 
Just for you mate, here's a couple of pics of a young Joan, and a snippet of the above-mentioned song, and you won't hear anything better this year.
 
(Joan is/was a good Christian girl, so no impure thoughts).
 
 

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From: Geoff Sent: 16/12/2004 8:19 AM
Bob and Joan.
Ahhh............. those were the days.
She had a  album out  some years ago (Any Day Now) in which she recorded only his songs.....great treatment particularly of  "I Shall Be Released" from which the title was taken and "Boots Of Spanish Leather."
A beautiful pure voice ..........(don't know about the Christrian girl stuff PP)  

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From: vorogue Sent: 3/06/2005 6:37 PM
this pacer just won at Charlton (race 8)
 

2

LITTLE PARTNER

BB M 14

Jeffrey Hargreaves -

Ft

Yellow, Purple Band

$65675   TS: 7-0-2  

Limited Partner USA-Little Shirl

6TH

MARYBOROUGH

15Apr

2190

 

SS FT5

$17.8

Eclectic

18.3m

2-03.3

4TH

MARYBOROUGH

11May

2190

 

SS FT3

$40.9

Glenn Cholm N

2.0m

2-03.4

2ND

TERANG

15May

2180

 

MS FT3

$21.3

Areeba Nz

9.6m

2-01.7

2   LITTLE PARTNER 10.10 3.00  
12   HANOVER ZIP 3.30  
1   KISSORKILL 3.70  
QN 2*12 94.00  
EX 2*12 91.50  
TF 2*12* 1 2113.20

 


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From: NineMSN Nicknamenan  Sent: 3/06/2005 7:14 PM
Well, it is Aged Pension week.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamebetsmallandenjoy Sent: 2/08/2005 4:50 PM
Kyogle Wirra in the 80's was still racing at the age of 21. 
 
The stewards forced connections to retire it.

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From: vorogue Sent: 30/09/2005 10:09 PM
this old pensioner won his first race in 5 years tonight at the Gold Coast
 
5   JOHNS DANCER 4.30 1.90  
10   STARLIGHT IN VEGAS 4.40  
14   KATE AU PENNY 2.00

 

5

JOHNS DANCER

B G 14

Margaret Edmunds

Ft

Brown, Yellow Band & Sleeves

$38937   TS: 2-0-2

Tyrolean Dancer-Stumpy Bella

2ND

GOLD COAST

24Aug

2100

 

SS 20m3

$22.7

Strlght In Ve

3.5m

2-07.5

3RD

ROCKLEA

03Sep

1698

 

SS FT1

$3.5

Off The Wood

5.5m

2-07.1

2ND

GOLD COAST

09Sep

2100

 

SS FT2

$3.2F

Watch Me Part

0.1m

2-09.7



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From: vorogue Sent: 18/11/2005 8:09 PM
look who won at 10-1 having his first run for 5 months at 9 years of age 
 

5

SMOOTH SATIN

B G 9

Steve Turnbull

Ft

Red, Dark Blue Spots, Hooped Sleeves

$1368098   TS: 0-0-0

Stature USA-Seafield Ivy

WON

DUBBO

22May

2120

 

MS FT8

$1.8F

 

1.5m

1-58.8

3RD

HAROLD PARK

27May

1760

 

MS FT9

$3.7

Hexus

2.1m

1-57.8

9TH

CANBERRA

05Jun

2540

 

MS FT10

$2.25F

Iron Realm

68.8m

2-00.1


ST 03
Harold Park


5- Smooth Satin
2- Clear Atomic Day
12- Maggies Son


$10.60




$2.60
$1.60
$7.70

 


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From: vorogue Sent: 30/04/2006 9:17 PM
here's one...a pacer had it's first start tonight at Devonport for a mere 7 years, that is of  Rip Van Winkle proportions, it is now a 13yo
 
 

10

FAMILY CHEF

BR G 13

Andrew Thornton

Ft

Red, White Horseshoes, Blue Sleeves

$18926   TS: 0-0-0

French Chef-Family Way

8TH

DEVONPORT

05Mar

2230

 

SS FT5

$15

Tatnel

8.5m

2-07.8

9TH

BURNIE

14Mar

2500

 

SS 10m8

$21

Hotrate

23.0m

2-09.7

7TH

DEVONPORT

19Mar

2230

 

MS FT10

$81

Captn Ruthlss

19.0m

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From: vorogue Sent: 13/05/2006 10:47 PM

9

INDIANA LEE

B G 13

Lane Johnson

30

Yellow, Black Diamonds

$57462   TS: 8-1-1

Niatrix USA-Mella Future

5TH

ECHUCA

05Mar

2530

 

SS 10m10

$29.2

Running Pinvl

17.9m

2-06.5

8TH

COBRAM

23Mar

2618

 

SS FT7

$48.8

Skye Rocket

25.0m

2-06.2

4TH

GLOBE DERBY

29Apr

2645

 

SS 20m6

$8.8

Looks Like Me

8.7m

2-09.2

GLOBE DERBY

AT 6

PAYING
13-May-06 TROTTING CARNIVAL IN JUNE TROT T2 OR BETTER. S/S
RADIO TAB 10-1-11 Late Mail 11 2645M OVERCAST GOOD
9   INDIANA LEE 9.40 2.70  
1   GEECODE 2.00  
11   POWER OF COOMA 1.70  
QN 1* 9 17.10  
EX 9* 1 41.60  
TF 9* 1*11 224.90  
 

 


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From: vorogue Sent: 20/06/2007 10:03 PM

1

KING RAINBOW

B G 13

Alan Johnson

Ft

Black, Red V & Striped Sleeves

$174097   TS: 36-6-12

What's Next USA-Hike Along

REDCLIFFE

QT 3

PAYING
20 Jun 2007 RACING SUNDAY 1ST JULY CLAIMING PACE C. NDC M/S
RADIO TAB 5-6-1 Late Mail 6 2280M FINE GOOD
1   KING RAINBOW 5.00 1.60  
6   DINNYGONNE 1.30  
8   TORATIC 9.00  

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From: vorogue Sent: 14/04/2008 2:23 PM

Ian McCallum's Long Road To Recovery

12 April 2008

Ian McCallum remains in hospital after a fall at Maryborough on Monday

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Legendary Charlton trainer-driver Ian McCallum remains in hospital, recovering from injuries sustained in a fall at Maryborough on Monday.

The 77-year-old was knocked unconscious when thrown to the track after copping the backwash of some interference in Mondayís third race.

It was reported not long after the race that McCallum had come through the fall well, but that was not the case.

While the relevant neck and brain scans had all come back positive, McCallum remained in an induced coma in the critical care unit of Bendigo hospital with a number of broken ribs and bleeding to one of his lungs.

Harness Racing Victoria chief executive John Anderson said it was important harness racing were aware of the inaugural Gordon Rothacker Medallistís state.

"Ian is a legendary figure in harness racing and Iím sure there are plenty of people out there interested to know his condition,Ē Anderson said.

ďWhile his injuries arenít life-threatening, he remains in hospital and has a long road to recovery ahead of him.

ďIím sure I speak for all harness racing fans when I wish Ian the speediest of recoveries.Ē


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From: vorogue Sent: 8/05/2008 4:12 PM

3

KING RAINBOW

B G 14

Alan Johnson

Ft

Black, Red V & Striped Sleeves

$185270   TS: 27-2-4

What's Next USA-Hike Along

GOLD COAST

QT 4

INTERIM
08 May 2008 BEENLEIGH FARM SUPPLIES CLAIMING PACE M/S
RADIO TAB 3-4-6-2 Late Mail 4 2100M FINE GOOD
3   KING RAINBOW 4.00 1.50  
6   HIGHBINDER 2.30  
4   KING TERRA 1.40

 


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From: vorogue Sent: 25/08/2008 7:35 PM
Nor the years condemn
 
14 years old next week Sept 1
 

BANKSTOWN

NT 7

PAYING
25 Aug 2008 SURPLICE SMALLGOODS PACE C2 TO C3 M/S
RADIO TAB 10-3-7 2140M FINE FAST
10   HANOVER ZIP 2.30 1.30  
7   KIDMEN 1.40  
2   DREAM AWAY GLEN 6.60  
SCR -
Sub Fav 10
QN 7*10 5.60  
EX 10* 7

10

HANOVER ZIP

B G 13

Paul Russo

Ft

Dark Blue, Red Diamond

$259328   TS: 30-2-10

Holmes Hanover USA-Mischievous Lady (nz)

3RD

BANKSTOWN

09Aug

2140

 

MS FT7

$10.8

Gotashotaway

2.8m

2-05.5

2ND

PENRITH

14Aug

2525

 

MS FT8

$1.7F

Shadow Strike

2.5m

2-04.4

4TH

BANKSTOWN

18Aug

2140

 

MS FT8

$4.3

Atlntc Missin

37.0m

2-00.2


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From: NineMSN Nicknamelookslikedenzel Sent: 26/08/2008 11:09 AM
Can someone help me out here...
 
I am just wondering how a horse thats won $260,000 and 37 races runs around in a C2-C3 race...????
 
Sure the answer is simple .......

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From: MagiC** Sent: 26/08/2008 11:22 AM
From: <NOBR>NineMSN Nicknamelookslikedenzel</NOBR> Sent: 26/08/2008 9:09 AM
Can someone help me out here...
 
I am just wondering how a horse thats won $260,000 and 37 races runs around in a C2-C3 race...????
 
Sure the answer is simple .......

Obviously won or was placed in a big race as a young horse


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From: NineMSN NicknameOLD_LARSY Sent: 26/08/2008 11:22 AM
Well from barrier 10 I'm guessing it got into position running in an anti clockwise direction directly behind the horse drawn in barrier 4.
It continued running in this direction for a couple of laps and was faster than the others.
 
Seriously though, in 11 years of racing, 3.4 wins per year and $24k prizemoney per year on average, seems only C2-C3 class to me

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From: arakaan Sent: 26/08/2008 4:51 PM
From: <NOBR>NineMSN Nicknamelookslikedenzel</NOBR> Sent: 26/08/2008 9:09 AM
Can someone help me out here...
 
I am just wondering how a horse thats won $260,000 and 37 races runs around in a C2-C3 race...????
 
Sure the answer is simple .......

 

indeed it is,  the race would had a 5 start prizemoney clause or a claiming option.

I would say he was entered as a claimer as they always start on the outside draws of the 2nd row.

eg R7 at menangle on thursday is likely the same conditions as yesterday

http://www.harness.org.au/formguides/meeting_form.cfm?meeting_code=QE280808#Race%207

 


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From: NineMSN Nicknamelookslikedenzel Sent: 26/08/2008 5:14 PM
OK...
Finally an answer that actually made some sense....I am pretty sure they don't run those races here in Vic (I am sure Geo will be able to there)...
 
You must be able to run a claimer as long as their claiming price is no more than 3000 meaning only very ordinary claimers can run against C2-C3
 
4YO+ C2 To C3. which have not won more than $3000 in the last 6 starts. Also eligible claimers eligible under claiming rules with a claiming price of $3000 (GST inclusive) PBD/C

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From: NineMSN NicknameOLD_LARSY Sent: 26/08/2008 5:36 PM

 

From: arakaan Sent: 26/08/2008 2:51 PM

I would say he was entered as a claimer as they always start on the outside draws of the 2nd row.

eg R7 at menangle on thursday is likely the same conditions as yesterday

 

There's no 2nd row at Menangle


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From: NineMSN Nicknamebyalongneck Sent: 26/08/2008 9:47 PM
14yo would also mean compulsory retirement would it not? so no danger of being claimed unless anyone wanted a nice riding horse at a big price?
Also denzel, he could be from SA, and continually run for CRAP with the incentive of being low in class
I had to laugh when now SA is taking out of the prize money all the drivers fees
Not trying to hijack the thread, but gees what a way to not decrease the prize money but actually doing so.

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From: arakaan Sent: 26/08/2008 9:55 PM
Hanover Zip carried a flat tyre for the last lap in wining yesterday.

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« 2008-Dec-10, 03:09 PM Reply #3 »
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From: NineMSN NicknameOLD_LARSY Sent: 4/09/2008 9:20 PM
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From: arakaan Sent: 26/08/2008 2:51 PM

indeed it is,  the race would had a 5 start prizemoney clause or a claiming option.

I would say he was entered as a claimer as they always start on the outside draws of the 2nd row.

 

TOP PET PET FOODS C2 PACE MS  2095m

2 33241 HANOVER ZIP NZ () 100 40 BEN SARINA

 


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From: arakaan Sent: 4/09/2008 9:32 PM
Well then they have changed it then OL because when these conditioned races were brought in about 2-3 years ago that was the rule as the claimers were still considered well off in these races.
 
Just looked at that race and barriers 1 & 2 were the only claimers in the race.
 
I actually don't like that being the case if they changed it which it looks like they have.

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From: arakaan Sent: 4/09/2008 9:35 PM
I mean it meant tonight an in form C34/M4 drew better than the C2's. that's not right. It should be outside the 2nd row the claiming price class drop in advantage enough.
 
2 HANOVER ZIP NZ ($3,000) FT
HOLMES HANOVER USA - MISCHIEVOUS LADY (NZ) BAY GELDING 14YRS C34 M4

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From: vorogue Sent: 5/09/2008 12:41 AM
Here's an interesting runner at Penrith tonite race 8, having only it's 2nd lifetime start, at the ripe old age of TWELVE
 
started 50's and ran nowhere
 
well named
 

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LATE MATURER

BR G 12

Milton Coutts

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Brown, Red Braces

$0   TS: 0-0-0

Nuke Of Earl USA-Lochlee Nicole

6TH

BULLI

19May

1940

 

MS FT4

$55.1

Farsla Prince

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From: vorogue Sent: 8/12/2008 9:45 AM
great tribute to John Hunt the perth race caller last nite on IN THE GIG, he was live in the perth studio with his dog riding shotgun. Replays some of his great trot calls of yesteryear and some recent ones too, his final nite calling is this friday nite Gloucester Park, sky channel will have cameras following him around and show highlights next sunday nite on In The Gig. for those who missed it last nite, it is repeated tomorrow (TUESDAY) at 9.15am, set your recorders/foxtel IQ's...it's worth watching

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From: arakaan Sent: 8/12/2008 4:09 PM
the horse from two posts ag went around at menangle today. Makes you wonder why they are bothering.
 
 
7 LATE MATURER FT
NUKE OF EARL USA - LOCHLEE NICOLE BROWN GELDING 12YRS C0 M0
BROWN, RED BRACES
Owner: M J Coutts 
Breeder: Illawarra Standardbreds Driver: Milton Coutts  
Trainer: Milton Coutts (WILBERFORCE)  
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LT: 12-0-0  TS: 11-0-0  LS: 1-0-0  LTS: $400
 
9-9 PENRITH 30Oct08 2095MS Sr2 C0 Only. Milton Coutts btn 26m $115.60 wnr REDEMPTION NZ Fr5 (2:04.1, 60.2, 29.5) , 2nd BADGERS BELLE Fr3, bell lap, 5 back on the pegs, last Video Available (1.5Mb approx)
7-12 PENRITH 06Nov08 1720SS FT Fr6 C0 To C4. Milton Coutts btn 14m $113.10 wnr CALDETAS NZ 10 Fr2 (2:01.8, 60.1, 30.4) , 2nd HARDWARE JOE 20 Fr2, bell lap, 1 out 1 back Video Available (1.5Mb approx)
9-10 PENRITH 13Nov08 1720MS Sr3 C0 Only. Milton Coutts btn 21m $147.60 wnr TAYSPASTIME Fr1 (2:03.1, 59.3, 28.7) , 2nd LUCKY SIMON TWO, ATTAKHAN Sr4, Sr1, checked, bell lap, 1 out 3 back Video Available (1.5Mb approx)
9-9 PENRITH 27Nov08 2525SS FT Fr2 C0 To C4. Milton Coutts btn 121.1m $127.30 wnr BINDAVIEW FT Fr1 (2:03.8, 59.5, 30.2) , 2nd PINKSTWOTTER 20 Fr1, galloped out, took no part, warning issued, bell lap, tailed off, last Video Available (1.5Mb approx)
7-8 BNKSTWN 01Dec08 2140MS Sr3 R0 Only. Milton Coutts btn 69.1m $194.60 wnr CHRISTIAN TROY NZ Fr5 (2:05.2, 60.6, 30.8) , 2nd QUEEN LIZZY Fr3, checked and broke, bell lap, 4 back on the pegs Video Available (1.5Mb approx)

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« 2008-Dec-21, 11:30 AM Reply #4 »
 
 SOUTH AUSTRALIAN  Bowling
              O M R W Econ 
  MF Cleary 10.4 2 41 1 3.84 
  DT Christian 5 0 49 0 9.80 
  DJ Cullen 4 0 23 1 5.75 
  DJ Harris 1 0 3 0 3.00

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« 2009-Mar-19, 09:39 PM Reply #5 »
incredible that this driver is still pushing them around at Penrith, he was already at least in his 30's in 1970 when he used to drive KIMBO in free for alls at HP, C J CASTLES, i reckon he must be at LEAST 75 and he still trains a small team as well as drive them

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Jim Castles

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« 2009-Mar-19, 10:16 PM Reply #6 »
When you mentioned C J Castles I knew straight away that he had brought a very good horse to Vic years ago. As a parochial Victorian I used to hate it when NSW horses would plunder our events.

If I remember rightly Local Honored was an extremely tough horse, check out the Vic derby field below that he ran 4th in, it was a cracker. He actually won his heat.

VICTORIA PACERS DERBY FINAL

1   GARRY'S ADVICE   $17,500  FT  V J Knight     
2   PRINCE JADE   $3,500  FT  A D PEACE     
3   VICTORY SARNEL USA   $2,500  FT  K J ROBINSON     
4   LOCAL HONORED   $1,500  FT  C J CASTLES     
5   SMART KARAMEA   $0 FT  T E DEMMLER     
6   BARTS GAMBLE   $0 FT  J H(HENRY) MCDERMOTT     
7   HUBERT CAMPBELL   $0 FT  J O'SULLIVAN     
8   BLACK MONEY   $0 FT  D V Dove     
9   KALLAWARRA KING   $0 FT  R A Winen     
10   EL CAPRICE   $0 FT  P J Tritton 

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« 2009-Mar-19, 10:19 PM Reply #7 »
I was down there that night   :biggrin:

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« 2009-Aug-19, 10:59 PM Reply #8 »
Curtain Comes Down On A Remarkable Warrior

12 August 2009

Australian Record holder Nat's Nifty retires on the eve of his 14th birthday

Racing and Wagering Western Australiaís Aged Horses Policy will see the curtain come down on the career of the rising 14yo gelding Nats Nifty on September 1st.
Under the policy 14yos arenít permitted to race or trial and while Natís Nifty hasnít raced since January this year he has been a regular at Byford Trials in recent weeks as he helped 18yo Sandra Garepo put together the 30 satisfactory trial drives she needed to obtain her licence.
That Natís Nifty should still be competing as a 13yo is hardly surprising as he didnít commence racing until he was four years old under the care of Les and Natalie Poyser.
He had been bred by Poyserís wife Norma and was the result of a mating between the superbly bred Trev Leo and the unraced mare Thrilling.
Trev Leo won 13 races and was a son of the outstanding broodmare Remit whose other seven winners included Whitby Timer $314,899, Whitby Heritage $201,758, Whitbys Merit $168,598 and dual Australian Broodmare of the Year Fiscal Miss.
Natís Nifty finished last in his debut race behind Dilligaff in a C0 class race at Gloucester Park on 11th November 1999.
Less than five years later he would be racing in an Inter Dominion Final at the same track.
It took 16 starts and more than two years before Natís Nifty broke out of maiden ranks with a win at Harvey as a six year old and the Poyserís gave him a further five starts that season before Phil Duggan entered the picture.
A former jockey who had switched to harness racing, Duggan took over the training of Nats Nifty in the middle of 2002 and it took nine starts before the gelding won his first race for Duggan.
This win was at Pinjarra on 2nd December 2002, as a seven year old, and it coincided with Callan Suvaljkoís first drive behind Natís Nifty.
The pair clearly clicked as in his next ten starts Natís Nifty and Suvaljko won six times and added a trio of second placings and graduated to city class in the process.
That season Natís Nifty won ten of his 39 starts and with a further 16 placings took his career earnings from a touch over $3,600 to more than $62,000.
He followed that up with his best ever season in 2003/04 as an eight year old climaxing in his appearance in the 2004 Inter Dominion Final at Gloucester Park.
Natís Nifty went into the Inter Dominion Final as the fifth highest points scorer through the heats with 33 points. Only superstars in Mister DG (45 points), The Falcon Strike (40), Double Identity (39) and Sokyola (35) ranked higher with the eventual winner Jofess sneaking into the field with 31 points.
Natís Nifty had earned his points with a first night second to Mister DG followed by a third placing to start Sydney 4yo Te Kanarama and Sokyola and rounded off with a fourth placing on the third night behind Sokyola, Selby Bromac and The Falcon Strike.
That he finished seventh in the final mattered little as that season Natís Nifty rightly ranked in the nationís best dozen horses.
As an eight year old Natís Nifty had 44 starts for nine wins, 16 placings and stakes of $97,270.
The delayed start to the geldingís career continued to return a dividend when Natís Nifty had his second best season as a nine year old in 2004/05 when his 31 starts yielded six wins and six placings and a further $80,000 in stakes.
His six wins were all at Gloucester Park and while he didnít win a feature race he did finish second to Money Magnet in the Parliamentarians Cup and third to Lively Medley and Another Party in the Fremantle Members Sprint. He also finished fourth that season to Baltic Eagle, La Valiente and The Falcon Strike in the Celebrity Sprint.
He showed amazing speed at Gloucester Park on 24th February 2005 when he overcame a horror draw on the outside of the front line to beat the pace-making Faking It at a lifetime best 1:54.5 rate over the 1742 metres.
Natís Nifty remains the only 9yo or older horse to better a 1:55 rate in a race in Australia over a distance of greater than one mile.
A further 20 starts as a 10yo added another $26,745 to the bankroll and that season Natís Nifty finished fourth to Maheer Lord, Ohoka Ace and No Blue Manna in the $250,000 WA Pacing Cup.
Phil Dugganís love for Natís Nifty showed a little over two years ago when, after the horse had been returned to the Poysers for a total of nine starts between November 2006 and 18th May 2007, he claimed the now 11yo gelding for $10,000.
Natís Nifty retires with a career record of 186 starts which resulted in 27 wins and stakes of $268,226.

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« 2009-Sep-05, 08:29 PM Reply #9 »
a belated birthday present for another QLD pensioner  :bop:

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HAL THOMAS  B G 14   MARK DUX

GOLD COAST QT 6  PAYING
05 Sep 2009    CLAIMING PACE     2100M    OVERCAST    GOOD
   
               
10         HAL THOMAS    4.00    1.80    
6         TAFETTA BLACK       2.00    
11         JAYLOCK VINNY       2.20    

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« 2009-Sep-05, 08:36 PM Reply #10 »
Was about to back him and the missus rang, so didn't bother  :rant:
334th start tonight  :beer:

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« 2009-Sep-05, 11:34 PM Reply #11 »
What age are they allowed to race to in the Harness world ?

Pretty sure Thoroughbred have to retire at the end of their 13yo season.

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« 2009-Oct-03, 09:45 PM Reply #12 »
and another win to the flying 14 year old

ALBION PARK
   
BT 9
   
03 Oct 2009    CLAIMING PACE    
1660M    FINE    GOOD
   
               
5         HAL THOMAS    $16.90    $3.70    

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« 2009-Oct-04, 03:36 AM Reply #13 »
I looked at the race and immediately thought, i can't have a bet against Hal, he'll get under my guard again, but at the same ime if I back him, he won't get his famous 3 wide trail into the race.
The end story, I didn't bet, and he got his trail, the rest is history

Well done old fella   emthup

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« 2009-Oct-16, 05:09 PM Reply #14 »
running tonight in race 2 at Melton, the sprightly 11 year old coming back out of retirement, first run since January 2008

STING LIKE A BEE   :o


Career: 128-37-30-25
LTS: $1,038,631
BMR: 1:55.8MS
TS: 0-0-0-0
LS: 0-0-0-0

Win: 29%
Place: 72%
Mobile: 110-33-26-24
Track: 0-0-0-0
DistRge: 75-22-22-17
BMRDistRge: 1:56.8MS
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« 2009-Oct-17, 07:41 AM Reply #15 »
That wasn't too hard mate. It was about the same time Flashing Red started winning big races  :lol:


An alltime low era

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« 2009-Oct-29, 05:41 PM Reply #16 »
nor the years condemn.....

6  WALTON FLYER  BR G 13

CHRIS ALFORD  (ODS) Ft  trainer Paul Males

Geelong trots race 1 result

6         WALTON FLYER     7.40     2.90    
2         THE TWO OF US       4.00    
4         HOOSHOTTHESHERRIFF       10.20    

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« 2009-Oct-29, 07:10 PM Reply #17 »
I noticed Mustard went around at Rosehill last Saturday

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MUSTARD

B G 12

R QUINN

That would have nearly be a record for one that age going around in the metro area on a saturday.

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« 2009-Nov-14, 07:11 AM Reply #18 »
I noticed Mustard went around at Rosehill last Saturday


That would have nearly be a record for one that age going around in the metro area on a saturday.


Dead stiff not to win at randwick last week

Great chance today

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« 2009-Dec-19, 04:46 PM Reply #19 »
Were you on today, Wily?

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« 2009-Dec-19, 04:48 PM Reply #20 »
Start 100 today

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« 2009-Dec-19, 05:09 PM Reply #21 »
Lars

 I didn't pay much attention to the race. I didn't see him down that far in the weights. I was distracted and basically scrubbed the race :sad:


Great to see him win though

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« 2010-Jan-01, 09:38 PM Reply #22 »
First race at Mur'bah on Sunday has Neil Paine, Kevin  Forrester and Cyril Small listed as riders.

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« 2010-Jan-01, 09:40 PM Reply #23 »
Neil's only mid forties. not that old.

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« 2010-Jan-09, 12:31 PM Reply #24 »
I wish they'd retire Malcolm, the poor old bloke has had enough


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