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Offline Arsenal

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O.P. « 2014-Oct-20, 05:41 PM »
NSW harness racing stewards have issued a number of charges involving Cobalt levels detected above the acceptable level...must be the new go fast drug ...haven't noticed any  similar detections in the gallopers ...... maybe they're using something else.....or the Lab isn't testing for Cobalt. :shrug: Giddy Up

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« 2014-Oct-20, 06:04 PM Reply #1 »
Prominent Newcastle trainer Darren Smith was suspended/disqualified back in June for Cobalt levels in several of his horses.
Got 12 months, I think.

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« 2014-Oct-20, 06:23 PM Reply #2 »
Geez Smithy has form :chin:

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« 2014-Oct-20, 06:28 PM Reply #3 »
Prominent Newcastle trainer Darren Smith was suspended/disqualified back in June for Cobalt levels in several of his horses.
Got 12 months, I think.

they havent given him a penalty yet

but i can tell you he has packed up all his horses and i dont think he will be back this time ?

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« 2014-Oct-21, 10:03 AM Reply #4 »

Tuesday, 7 October 2014

Trainer Darren Smith - Cobalt Inquiry


Racing NSW Stewards now have to hand certification from two official racing laboratories certifying the concentration of cobalt found in 15 raceday swab samples and one non-raceday sample taken from 13 individual horses trained by licensed trainer, Mr Darren Smith, during the period 14th February 2014 and 21st May 2014.

The horses and races relevant to the reports are as follows:-

Idle Chat, on 14/02/2014 at Port Macquarie and on 21/05/2014 at Kensington;
Pirandello, on 15/02/2014 at Rosehill Gardens;
Straiffic, on 22/02/2014 at Port Macquarie;
Dream Choice, on 1/03/2014 at Rosehill Gardens;
Soul Serenade, on 4/03/2014 at Muswellbrook;
Organisms, on 10/04/2014 at Hawkesbury;
Afflictions, on 12/04/2014 at Newcastle;
Braided, on 17/04/2014 at Wyong and on 16/05/2014 at Scone;
Nisroc, on 21/04/2014 at Kensington and on 20/05/2014 at Williamtown (non-raceday);
Prize, on 22/04/2014 at Port Macquarie and on 18/05/2014 at Port Macquarie;
Unadulterated, on 29/04/2014 at Taree;
Far Out (NZ), on 17/05/2014 at Kembla Grange;
Testarhythm, on 17/05/2014 at Scone;
Off The Bench (NZ), on 18/05/2014 at Port Macquarie;
Date With Fate, on 19/05/2014 at Tamworth;
Forward March, on 19/05/2014 at Tamworth; and
Little Patrick, on 20/05/2014 at Cessnock.

Mr Smith was interviewed by Stewards on the 29th May 2014 at the Offices of Racing NSW and his Williamtown stables were visited on the 30th May 2014, whereby an embargo was placed on all horses that were trained by him at the time.

Samples were also taken on the 30th May 2014 from a number of horses in Mr Smith’s stables and clearing samples were subsequently taken from a number of horses transferred to other licensed trainers prior to their continuing race programs.

Stewards have notified Mr Smith of the analyst’s findings and an inquiry date will shortly be announced.

The Stewards also have to hand certification from two official racing laboratories certifying the concentration of cobalt in stored samples taken from the racehorse Alma’s Fury at Warwick Farm on the 23rd February 2013, when that gelding won the Apollo Stakes and on the 13th April 2013, when that gelding finished second in the Doncaster Prelude at Royal Randwick.

Stewards visited the Kembla Grange stables of trainer Mr Paul Murray on the 17th June 2014 and Mr Murray was interviewed in the Kembla Grange Stewards room on that day. An injectable bottle of an unknown fluid was confiscated and sent for analysis.

The results of the analysis of the contents of the injectable bottle have been presented to Mr Murray and he has been advised that he will be required to attend a Stewards inquiry at a time and date to be set.

Analysis of stored (frozen) samples held by the Australian Racing Forensic Laboratory for the full range of prohibited substances will continue in accordance with Racing NSW policy.

 thanks to Racing NSW

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« 2015-Feb-17, 10:34 AM Reply #5 »
Story in the home edition of the CM today ..Criminal links to racing's scandal ......was removed from the digital online version..this is the link to where it was published by the Herald Sun same writer Carly Crawford. Giddy Up :beer:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/underworld-figures-linked-to-injecting-cobalt-in-harness-race-horses/story-fni2u98u-1227221850038
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« 2015-Feb-17, 10:42 AM Reply #6 »

Offline VoRogue

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« 2015-Feb-17, 11:03 AM Reply #7 »
and here's me thinking they were just thieves on wheels, maybe CRIMINALS on wheels is the correct term  :mad: >:(

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« 2015-Feb-18, 11:43 AM Reply #8 »
Geez this topic is dropping off quick now the dogs scandal is front page news.

Just what the doctor ordered for the horse industries!

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« 2015-Feb-19, 10:20 AM Reply #9 »
Geez this topic is dropping off quick now the dogs scandal is front page news.

Just what the doctor ordered for the horse industries!

I am sure if it was a doping scandal in the Dogs it would not rate a mention.

The Dogs issue is far more serious and far more industry wide.


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« 2015-Feb-19, 10:34 AM Reply #10 »
Geez this topic is dropping off quick now the dogs scandal is front page news.

Just what the doctor ordered for the horse industries!

I don't think any of the horse trainers involved would be relishing the spotlight being directed at cheating/criminal activity in racing  :bulb:

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« 2015-Feb-19, 10:38 AM Reply #11 »
I am sure if it was a doping scandal in the Dogs it would not rate a mention.



I actually don't recall seeing or hearing anything at all in the media about the Grahame Bate doping saga.
I don't follow a lot of media, though  :unsu

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« 2015-Feb-19, 10:46 AM Reply #12 »
yep, Bate went from a hall of famer to a hall of shamer, as will his QLD counterpart Reg Kay  :yes:

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« 2015-Feb-19, 01:23 PM Reply #13 »
Eight Queensland cobalt samples confirmed to be in excess of threshold
Clinton Payne - 19 Feb 2015


Racing Queensland has announced that confirmatory testing of eight of the nine samples have returned positive results to cobalt.

The results of the testing were received by RQ on Wednesday and have been sent to NSW "for referee analysis”.

RQ general manager of stewarding and integrity Wade Birch said two of the samples were provided by thoroughbreds, from different stables, and six from harness racing.

"We received the results of those tests this afternoon and as required under the Australian Rules of Racing, they will be sent for referee analysis to a laboratory in Sydney,” Birch said.

"We understand there is demand from the industry for us to reveal the names of those implicated, however due process requires a referee analysis be conducted before individuals can be named.

"This is the case with all swabbing procedures, irrespective of the prohibited substance.”

Racing Queensland says they should have the results of the referee analysis within two weeks.
 


Courtesy of racenet.   emthup


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« 2015-Feb-19, 06:21 PM Reply #14 »
Nothing will be done until after the championships.

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« 2015-Feb-19, 07:17 PM Reply #15 »
Seems to be some confusion on the cobalt issue in Qld...initially RQ announced that 9 samples had been returned as  positive...after further testing 3 of the nine got the all clear so that's 6 that were referred for further analysis that was about 3 weeks ago...the latest info from RQ posted by Mono from Racenet  is that there are 8 positives from 9 tests and they have been sent off for further analysis...so where are we at ....is it 6 + 8...some further and better particulars would be welcome.
Giddy Up :whistle:

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« 2015-Feb-20, 03:51 PM Reply #16 »
I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but can someone explain to me the reason Qld Racing integrity boss  wont release the names of the trainers both harness and gallops  because of the presumption of innocense .Yet we have headlines including photos of Karmicheal Hunt being charged with drug traffiking.He hasnt been found guilty so where is the presumption of innoscense there

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« 2015-Feb-20, 04:04 PM Reply #17 »
Probably because Hunt has no sense.

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« 2015-Feb-20, 04:53 PM Reply #18 »
Probably because Hunt has no sense.

Neither do trainers who cheat but they seem to be being protected

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« 2015-Feb-21, 06:02 PM Reply #19 »
It appears from reports that Qld has recorded more positives to Cobalt than southern states......first we were told there were 9 recorded .....after further testing 3 were found to be OK leaving 6 positives confirmed ......these were from trotting and gallopers...but no details of the horses or the trainers have been released ...apart from the fact that one trainer is no longer licensed...then there's a report of another 9 positives one of which was found to be within limits so that leaves 8 sent away for further analysis......results are awaited...so I've emailed RQ seeking clarification that there has been 14 positives and for details to be made public on the 6 confirmed.....and while it's obviously something within their knowledge and wouldn't require a massive search of the records.....no reply has been forthcoming so far.

Giddy Up. 
 
 

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« 2015-Mar-15, 06:13 PM Reply #20 »
Just posted in another thread that the son of one of the great Vic trainers has been stood down for a cobalt positive and all his horses this week have been swcratched

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« 2015-Mar-18, 02:54 PM Reply #21 »
The trainer is Craig Demmler and he appealed Wednesday against the suspension of his license but lost he is now out until the hearing.

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« 2015-Mar-18, 03:41 PM Reply #22 »
Why is he not allowed a stay but the other 3 in the gallops are?

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« 2015-Mar-18, 05:19 PM Reply #23 »
In harness racing Australia wide it appears once you go to Cobalt your licence is suspended and you`re out  until your hearing

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« 2015-Mar-18, 08:50 PM Reply #24 »
Still no trainers named ?


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