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Peter Mair
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Original Post 2010-Apr-05, 05:47 PM




NSW STEWARDS: SIMPLY AN INSULT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC INTELLIGENCE

Who do you think will be paying the $2000 fine imposed on the rider of Faint Perfume?

One clue to the answer was a remark attributed to Bart Cummings that 'the jockeys were unhappy': reportedly,


Legendary trainer Bart Cummings said Murrihy was too focused on making his name in the media."He's very unpopular. This steward makes the rules to make himself more powerful, stewards and umpires should be seen and not heard."


Unfortunately it is no longer possible for licensed persons to speak frankly about 'who pays' but an extra $2000 is well within the range of an extra sling for riding a Group One winner.

In the press this morning it is also reported that:

RACING NSW chief steward Ray Murrihy yesterday defended the new whip rules after jockey Michael Rodd criticised his $2000 fine from Saturday's Rosehill meeting.

''It was with much regret that a situation arose in Melbourne where legal action was threatened following Nick Hall's ride on Zipping in the Australian Cup,'' Murrihy said. ''Rodd had six previous whip-use charges on his record but we took everything into account when declaring the fine.''

He said that Rodd had earned $12,500 as his winning percentage for winning the Vinery Stakes on the Bart Cummings-trained filly and believes that the fine was appropriate.


Apparently blind to the obvious intelligent inference, the Chief Steward compares the $2000 fine to the winning riders normal 5% commission -- blandly oblivious that the winning connections just trousered some $250,000 before deductions of trainers and riders commissions and slings.  Bland passing off such an odious comparison is insulting to the racing and wider community -- there is no faint perfume about this one, it stinks.

In short, everyone else knows the likely reality but the authoritarian powers of the stewards prevents everyone telling the truth -- where is the integrity in that?

The die for a confrontation in NSW over the new whip rules was cast six months ago.

Posting from the Boston Public library last September I noted that  Bob the Boss, of the unAustralian Racing Board pointedly told the NSW chief steward to butt out of the policy debate on the new whip rules -- and the rest is history: the rules left in place have been enforced predictably in NSW.

Bob the Boss, whose term is finite, will probably need to step down before a new 'leader' takes his turn at the head of a very non-national body and makes amends with the NSW stewards.

Ahead of that there are some fireworks to come -- it would be interesting to see a market, on Betfair, about the now very likely event of a NSW carnival race result being overturned because the whip rule was breached.

There is only one final outcome to this saga before the rule is changed -- and it now looms large.
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dragons
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2010-Apr-05, 06:10 PM

Silliest rule ever .
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Duke of Astor
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2010-Apr-05, 06:48 PM

Peter is on the mark.

I'd gladly rob a bank of 250k if a court of law would only fine me 2k.

Maybe Jocks should suggest to owners (in big races) "I'll break the rules for a 10% winning fee"
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Steve M
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2010-Apr-05, 06:58 PM

Yeah I don't like Murrihy's way of doing business. I think the way in which he treats people displays a lack of respect. Even moreso a lack of commonsense.
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2010-Apr-05, 07:54 PM

Yeah I don't like Murrihy's way of doing business. I think the way in which he treats people displays a lack of respect. Even moreso a lack of commonsense.



Hope your not a registered person, steve. he'll track you down for daring to comment on the net lol
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2010-Apr-05, 08:00 PM

He (Murrihy) lost me after that protest was upheld in the Villiers that time. Most disgraceful decision I've ever seen come out of a stewards room.

In fairness to the argument, and in the interests of balance, the NSW stewards are only enforcing the correct ARB rules. Where is the ARB comment on all this? They started all this crap.
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2010-Apr-05, 09:53 PM

If the STEWARDS had credibility,they could have all gone on strike.....and DN could have taken his Notebook to the track.
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2010-Apr-06, 11:01 AM

I find it hard to say the blame completely with the NSW stewards here. They are enforcing the rule to the letter of the rule yes, but seems tough to castigate them for that??

The real issue for mine is the rule itself and the complete lack of consistency in enforcement and interpretation. The fact that it can't/won't be enforced in any kind of uniform manner from one state to the next underlines that it is flawed and the ARB need to step up here.

Certainly if I were the NSW stewards copping it all over the place for enforcing the rule and not a peep of support was coming from those who put the rule in place (ie the ARB) I'd be feeling hung out to dry...
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2010-Apr-06, 02:57 PM



A LAW UNTO THEMSELVES -- RACING NSW'S CHIEF STEWARD AND ITS ERSTWHILE CEO

The claimed credibility of the new whip rules is now untenable -- the only supporters apparently being the chief steward at RacingNSW and its erstwhile CEO.

Remarkably a new organization -- Animals Australia - has been enlisted  to support the rules after the RSPCA failed to deliver one jot of publicly transparent analysis of its claimed support for the new rules about the use of a whip designed to 'not hurt horses'. The RSPCA would not be happy about this dispalcement of its national authority.

Jockeys would be acting fairly reasonably in claiming overtones of apprehended bias already in the application of the new rules in NSW and the situation is set to deteriorate as jockeys, not practically penalized for breaching the whip rules, invite a protest lodged by, and upheld by,  the NSW stewards:  even if the chief steward were to stand aside form a protest hearing, his son in law could hardly sit on the panel deciding the protest.

What is additionally surprising is the complete absence, for ever and a day on any matter, of any comment from the Minister's appointed board members of RacingNSW: it is hardly conceivable that the two Browns -- one a senior public servant and one a lawyer -- would generally support the usually contfrontational contributions  to the racing policy debate made by the CEO of RacingNSW. In the old days CEOs reflected the policy of the board  --  these seem to be very new days indeed at RacingNSW.
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2010-Apr-06, 04:40 PM

Since my return to Australia on 4/4 I observed the new nightly format for race replays.

Now read this.

You know how they fill in the  30 min time-slot with races of the past.

Saw the clip where John Tapp raved about the gutsiness of OCTAGONAL.

Get the drift.
Ockie wouldn't have been the Champion he was under the new rules. He would have been a bridesmaid...a loser.

Racing history would have been rewritten.

We will now reflect the Champion that shouldn't have been (under the new rules)

THE ARB has only three choices now.

1.  Go back to the past
2  Ban the whip completely (only fair level playing field if choice "1" not applied)
3  Disqualify horse and rider for breach.....Can't do as Punters will refuse to bet.

So 2 choices now.
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2010-Apr-06, 06:43 PM

Whenever someone mentions the Australian Racing Board i spend the next 5 minutes pondering why it actually exists. chin

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Steve M
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2010-Apr-06, 07:06 PM

Problem is Peter V'Landys taken exception to comments of Bart Cummings abt Ray Murrihy I suspect V'Landys thinks comments from JB are all whip related [unless he's an idiot?]- but I doubt that - sure Cummings is thinking generally.

I can understand why V'Landys is not happy with what's said - but, privately at least surely you must think if JB Cummings is offering comment then that's a measuring stick for the degree of unhappiness.

No point trying to hit people with the big stick publicly.
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2010-Apr-06, 07:10 PM

No point trying to hit people with the big stick publicly


Correct....it's against the rules.
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2010-Apr-06, 08:36 PM

He (Murrihy) lost me after that protest was upheld in the Villiers that time. Most disgraceful decision I've ever seen come out of a stewards room.



  Thumb Up  PP, was a shocker and I still can't understand it  chin
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2010-Apr-06, 10:37 PM

The jockeys agreed to the rules as they are and the Stewards are responsible for ensuring those rules are followed.  The problem lie, not with Ray Murrihy, but with the jockeys who stupidly agreed to their implementation.  At the time, the current situation was put forward as a possibility and if the jockeys had any foresight they would have stood strongly against what we now have.  What many fail to see is that NSW Stewards are simply enforcing the rules as they are as compared to other State's Stewards who are turning a blind eye to any breaches
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