Racehorse TALK

Interesting. 

Thanks for that I thought I read somewhere he had claimed 3kg in the first but only 2 in the 3rd.

So they allow 1kg for a vest so any hoop using one at say 700g makes that up with whatever.

Poor bugger I reckon he didnt weigh out with the correct weight and obv didnt check the Paid Clerk of Scales.

Looks like the most plausible explanation.................will be interesting to see what if anything extra the stewards report discloses.

In particular the responsibility of the officials responsible for ensuring the weights allocated are adopted.

An opinion .....not fact

Dubbles knows ......it's clear as crystal.......he was peeping through the keyhole.

This is from Bart in today's CM............

"Birch and his panel also completed an inquiry into why apprentice Patrick Keane weighed in light after scoring on Gold Rating at Eagle Farm last Saturday. Keane contended officials must have erred at the weigh-out and he had not been at the correct weight of 55.6kg.

The steward at the scales, Robyn McRae, and assistant Gary Tozer, both gave evidence they were certain Keane had been 55.6kg when he weighed out.

He was 54.76kg when he weighed in after the "victory".

Keane was suspended for one month for the incident, which led to Gold Rating's disqualification."


The public is entitled to more information than this scrap..........further and better particulars..........pleeze.

Well no Media Release & nothing in Industry News yet on the Website. 
There's a chance their office got flooded. 

Isn't I strange that they post 2 other things on 27.01.12 and nothing about this.............

They could have done a Media Release today, even just stating the jockey was suspended for 1 month & further explanation from the inquiry to be given next week.

Poor form really, not to at least do the basics. (unless flooded in)
OR just maybe they don't think it's necessary.        

Stop press.........media release from RQL on stewards decision.

http://www.racingqueensland.com.au/Articles_ViewArticle.aspx?id=1934


Pleaded guilty.......obviously.........but what about the scale officials ....no mention of their duty.....what they did or didn't do

Maybe it's being dealt with internally.....there's only one man with the independence to find out.PP

That is a Media Release Stewards Report of the decision which is good to see they put one out.  

but.........Where is the transcript?, the submissions? etc.  Are they not for public viewing, if so, can someone direct me to where they are or when they will be released. The crux of the matter is what actually happened which is the issue that needs addressing.

I can accept the jockey taking a guilty plea as he didn't really have a choice. If he tries to defend himself, (unless he has an obvious case) then you're looking at double the penalty & then the stewards blackmarking you for the future. None of which should be accepted practice but it is reality. So he's probably just gone the path of least resistance which is fair enough.
The penalty in itself is fairly sensible. Obviously they are not saying he did it on purpose or to fraud anyone. Saying it was an error & that it won't end his riding career.

Well of course there is no transcript if there is no inquiry.
From what they have stated, they have questioned the jockey & got statements. That is NOT an inquiry. They didn't even state how he was guilty. They could have furnished some details of the case. Just saying he was underweight is pretty basic. Maybe they have the reason & don't want to release it to the public. 

Maybe we expect too much sometimes. 
You would figure a professional body would want to work out what actually happened, hold an investigation at least uncover the truth for their own benefit.
To just say that he plead guilty so that is the end of it is pretty slack on their part. Of course, maybe they don't have the time/money/resources in their budget to accomodate an investigation. Sad if true.   
 

All very well dubbles but there has to be a better explanation than that.

I'm with Zoro on this.....everyone should have an interest in getting to the bottom...and ensuring it can't happen again.

Reading the stewards’ report on the result  I’m not surprised the jockey was penalised considering he pleaded guilty to the offence.

What does surprise me is the stewards’ report  sheds no light at all on “the circumstances surrounding Apprentice Patrick Keane returning to scale underweight”, yet those are the words taken directly from their report.

I'm tossing up whether to give Bob the job or join the chorus of complaints on the Wednesday Whinge

There needs to be proper accoutability and Bob is the go to man......we'll see what happens.

These infrequent occurences of weighing in light, or heavy, need to be examined to determine whether the process is adequate.

Surely this is self-evident.

I've emailed Bob at RQL asking for an explanation of how this incident happened
                                                 and asking
what steps if any have been taken to ensure it won't be repeated in the future......

I expect Bob will delegate the matter  to Mr.Orchard the Director of Integrity Services.

Once a reply is received I'll share it with you.