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Original Post 2007-Nov-15, 11:29 AM

Jim Cassidy, sidelined since a nasty fall at Eagle Farm back in June when he broke an ankle and four ribs, returned to track work today at Rosehill.  He hoped to do some jump outs or barrier trials in the next ten days and then be back riding in early December.
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2010-Mar-28, 12:00 PM

Maybe he should of put you On, Only prob is, they Breath and Drug test there4
you would of been stuffed b4 you even got on, However they don't IDIOT test
so maybe you could of Got through lol   lol



You are a little biased Big Wheel.

His ride on the 2 year old was ordinary to say the least. Speeding out to lead like that without so much as a breather doesn't make any sense, considering how experienced he is.

Yet I thought his ride on Alexander of Hales in which he finished well back as well was ok, while it didn't work he showed purpose in breaking up the field with the stop start tactics, took plenty of the field out of their comfort zone.

Rocks or diamonds, which one shows up 
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2010-Mar-28, 12:05 PM

He'll end up like RS Dye---land of never never---total pck.

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2010-Mar-28, 01:54 PM

Was Blake Shinns ride on Georgette Silk much better? he chased her and hit the front when Psychologist collapsed just after turning for home and had nothing left, not one of Jims better rides but nothing really suspicious about it, sure he would have liked to have won and had a Slipper ride, Stathi's ride on Mentality was similar only Mentality had the ability to fight on like a bulldog and make the ride look better, I'm sure if he had held up just a little in the early stages and left Mentality with some reserved energy he would have won, he only went down less than a length, Psychologist got beat a furlong, does anyone really believe she would have won if held up (like she was the previous week?? she should never have been here in Sydney in the first place, pure greed is what it was, don't blame Jim blame the connections!!
First start in a blue Diamond preview/prelude second start in a Blue Diamond from a wide barrier then to Sydney with  3 possible runs in 2 weeks, if that ain't greed with very little regard for the horses welfare tell me what is??
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2010-Mar-28, 02:01 PM

Actually, I wonder about Shinn sometimes too to be honest.
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2010-Mar-28, 02:38 PM

Was Blake Shinns ride on Georgette Silk much better? he chased her and hit the front when Psychologist collapsed just after turning for home and had nothing left, not one of Jims better rides but nothing really suspicious about it, sure he would have liked to have won and had a Slipper ride, Stathi's ride on Mentality was similar only Mentality had the ability to fight on like a bulldog and make the ride look better, I'm sure if he had held up just a little in the early stages and left Mentality with some reserved energy he would have won, he only went down less than a length, Psychologist got beat a furlong, does anyone really believe she would have won if held up (like she was the previous week?? she should never have been here in Sydney in the first place, pure greed is what it was, don't blame Jim blame the connections!!
First start in a blue Diamond preview/prelude second start in a Blue Diamond from a wide barrier then to Sydney with  3 possible runs in 2 weeks, if that ain't greed with very little regard for the horses welfare tell me what is??


All my references to Jim or for the entire body of work over his career rather than just this one ride.
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2010-Mar-28, 02:40 PM

I don't think most people are questioning whether it's suspicious ES.

My take is that he tends to overdo the tactics sometimes, here might be an example.

They wanted the horse ridden positively is my understanding - she was obviously keen to go and he's made a call and said right no point fighting and let her run accordingly.

It would seem that the trainer wanted her ridden with more restraint however.


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2010-Mar-28, 03:09 PM

Unlike most Jockeys Jim will make a decision and go with it and back his ability, he is right more than he is wrong, I like Jiockeys like Jim and Raymond Shane rather than the jockey who will get caught wide in a slowly run race and stay there then come back and tell you there was nothing he could do, Jim is a great judge of pace admittedly he went out in sub 35 but if it could have finished in 37 she would probably have won, she finished in about 45 for thr last 600, trainers and punters always winge if you do something they didn't expect and get beat! If Octagonal had been beaten in the Chipping Norton all the  "experts" would have crucified him same as Veandercross!!
these type of Jockeys are always going to be controversial but give me them any day over some of our so called top riders today, they are never victims of circumstances they make the circumstances, if you make a decision instead of waiting for circumstances to make your decision for you you are going to get it wrong from time to time but circumstances will beat you more often, some top riders ride to the percentages,
Jim doesn't hide if you don't like him don't back him, what you see is what you get!
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2010-Mar-28, 04:08 PM

If he's a great judge of pace I'm not sure that was much of an exhibition of his judgement  chin

He doesn't die wondering I'll give him that.

In his favour the horses that do go out and set a hectic pace are generally highlighted by us all. There's plenty of horses going around out the back in slowly run races that have no hope and get no attention. As a punter I'd prefer that Cassidy was taking his chances at the front. As an owner I'd much prefer the more conservative option if stuck with the lesser of two evils.
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2010-Mar-28, 05:47 PM

First start in a blue Diamond preview/prelude second start in a Blue Diamond from a wide barrier then to Sydney with  3 possible runs in 2 weeks, if that ain't greed with very little regard for the horses welfare tell me what is??


Not only that, She apparently suffered heat problems last week, Whilst I think the ride was very poorly judged the training left alot more to be desired.
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2010-Mar-28, 05:50 PM

Jim doesn't hide if you don't like him don't back him, what you see is what you get!



sadly thats not always possible as horse win races but dickwads lose them
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2010-Mar-28, 06:20 PM

seems he was told to lead but first time in blinkers and she missed the kick so he give her a kick in the ribs and that fired her up I don't know how many of you have ridden a horse thats fired up,  but they just don't respond to the bit and wont come off the bridle they arnt push button. Jimmy slaughters some but not entirely to blame for this one imo.
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2010-Mar-28, 06:59 PM

Geez it seems to happen to him a lot.......for some reason cool
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2010-Mar-30, 02:10 PM

seems to me most people blame losing rides for being bad and winning rides as being Good rides, the result decides the merit of the ride, Veandercross loses bad ride, wins great ride, Kingston Town loses(MC) bad ride, wins great ride, Octagonal wins Chipping Norton Great ride, gets beaten it was slaughtered! Lohnro wins his last start(when beaten by Grand Armee) Beadman gets all the plaudits, it gets beaten and all the "Experts" say he left his run too late!!
Grandstand Jockeys, we never make mistakes do we?????   
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2010-Mar-30, 02:22 PM

Lonhro's last start is hardly a good example. It could never have been a good ride.

Unless the horse had a rocket up it's clacker how did Beadman think he was going run down a horse of Grand Armee's ability sitting that far off him  chin

Could have been on a motorbike and I doubt you could give away that start and run him down.

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2010-Mar-30, 02:38 PM

Ok well Beadman's ride on Lonhro in the 04 Aus Cup was terrible.  biggrin
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