Racehorse TALK

What does this mean BW?

If we base best riders on g1 wins etc. What about Boss? Beadman was a stable rider for a while so he got the best of Hawkes and used to get Cummings too. Boss had to chase g1s from different trainers. He has won more Melb cups (thanks to one horse) than cassidy, Oliver or Beadman. boss has won Doncasters, Gloden Slippers too. G1 wins are not a good indication of ability if you happen to ride the best horse in the field. Lonhro, Saintly and Occy come to mind for Beads. Oliver used to get plum mounts for freedman and that was through Freedman's best years.

By the way is it me or has Waterhouse gone through quite a few riders over the past decade or so. I remember when Jimmy used to ride for her on a reg basis. I think she had Boss, Munce, Beasley, Eades riding for her at one stage too.

you may have been a jock sporty,but a good judge of them,unfortunately you're not,its not a big mistake though,thinking beadman is better,but a mistake no less

Now thats where your wrong im afraid mate  .... i am a very good judge of a jock and Beadman without a doubt is the best jock we have  ever seen since...George Moore & Roy Higgins....but one thing you are right about ...Oliver goes 2nd...

i strongly doubt that,but i'm sure a few of the old timers you talk about,will agree with you though,as will the majority of punters,so you're in the majority,but thats one place i prefer not to be,when it comes to the racing game

When it comes to opinions....ya cant be wrong...after all it is your opinion....if someone else has a different opinion they are also not wrong...it is their opinion....

thats true bundy,but when your opinion on things racing is shared by the majority,its a dangerous place to be,knowing that only a small minority win at this game

Judging a jock is still an opinion....winning or losing on the punt is a fact....therefore irrelevant I feel

Judge im sure your a alright sort of bloke....but anybody that comes out and puts beadman in a bracket of 10-15 on there list......needs therapy ...

but winning or losing on the punt is an opinion of what to back,how much to put on etc,is it not,so still based on opinions,therefore there is relevance,IN MY OPINION  

and your opinion is correct..because it is your opinion...I'm just saying that believing Jim is top material...or not...should not stop you..long term... from being a winner....or loser.....the discussion has led to opinions on Jimbos ranking...everyone is correct in their own opinion...ya see?

i did say 10-15 was a bit harsh,as was said slightly tongue in cheek,the above is my actual opinion,i also have seen all of the above ride

an opinion is not correct just because its someones opinion,that everyone should see

well thats it hey...people are going to stand what they firmly believe in...and i stand what i say...beadman is the best jock we have ever seen since George Moore & Roy Higgins...

I think what Bundy is trying to say Da Judge, is that just because somebody disagrees with your opinion doesn't make it incorrect 

it is correct..in their eyes....opinion will never be the same....you see blue...I see black....I am correct in what I see...and so are you....