Racehorse TALK

As I said earlier, I think he upset the apple cart.  Magic~* I just noticed we can't quote post No. - as in re westie's post No X.

Are you guys kidding. How can you blame the police for using their powers. They caught a drunk driver who could have killed someone (he was 0.19 for god's sake, he wasn't tiddly, he was legless ) and they caught someone in possession of illegal (and dangerous) drugs. If they weren't his then I'm sure he will tell the judge who owned them. If someone dobbed him in, good on them, they could have saved the life of everyone in the car.
Sorry HWNN but people who whinge about police powers are normally the first to call them when they need help.
I condemn people breaking the law not upholding it.

 very well said napes!

Hang on, Napes.

Stathi Katsidis has to be tried in a court before we can say they were his drugs.  I am not overlooking his drink driving.  Anyone who drinks and gets behind the wheel deserves to walk for the rest of their lives, as far as I'm concerned.

However, I do object to people, police included, using their powers simply because they have them.  As I asked before, how many people have blown over the limit and then had their cars searched?

I was not aware that Katsidis had a prior drug problem. I do know he did take Duromine (appetite suppressant) which can be used as speed.  However, that is not a long list of offences in my opinion. And he refused to supply a urine specimen and was outed for it.

I loathe illegal drugs and if it had come to my attention that Stathi was "one of those" there is no way known I would even try to defend him. 

If you will read it again, I said what was reported in the paper and on websites.  Regardless of that, I still think he was stitched up.  He's obviously upset someone and it's pay back time.  I have never defended him for "using illegal substances".

And MagiC, I was not aware that steroids could help control weight.  Is that general knowledge?  Would Joe Public know that and immediately assume that's why the steroids were in his car?  To me, steroid use has been by people who want to bulk up, not the reverse.

We learn something every day.

I don't think it is unusal to search somebody's car if they are found to be drink driving, may not be that common , but i doubt unusual.

And with out knowing how it went down, a car load of drunk young males that could be possibly carrying on as jockey's have the ability to, could well have been a prime situation to have their car searched.

ie. The jocks and or whoever where in the car could have been smartarses to the police, so the police say well f@#% you , we will do everything in our power to be smartarses back.



No i doubt it is general knowledge HWNN as i didn't know, but our Vet said that that is what he would have them for.

And he would be in a better position then i to know ... he also said he obtained them from a Vetinarian so i would suggest the Vet may be in a little strife.

horsewithnoname  u must not come from qld.... i object very strongly to drugs especially when  these boys are sportsman who have the lives of my family and friends right in front of them. i do not care if they do it in their spare time out side of racing they are mind altering and addictive and  can have major affects on the body from abuse of them. i dont mean to be just pointing the finger at stathi but maybe go out in brisbane, sydney and even melb and ur eyes will be opened.

sorry i meant to say i do care if they do it in their spare time its just not acceptable at all

HorseWithNoName Writes ...

I loathe illegal drugs and if it had come to my attention that Stathi was "one of those" there is no way known I would even try to defend him.


Did you read that bit, Grandstand?  Yes, I do come from Qld but I don't have my ear to the ground to pick up on all the talk.  In fact, I haven't been to the races for years and that's where I used to pick up a lot of info.

My life has been drastically changed because of "(expletive deleted) recreational drugs" and I am totally against all drugs.


Posted by: grandstand

are u serious look at his track record not very good on the drug front, of course he is going to say they were not his.


As I said, I am not aware of a "track record" on the drug front.




Posted by: MagiC~*

And with out knowing how it went down, a car load of drunk young males that could be possibly carrying on as jockey's have the ability to, could well have been a prime situation to have their car searched.

ie. The jocks and or whoever where in the car could have been smartarses to the police, so the police say well f@#% you , we will do everything in our power to be smartarses back.


The above is pure conjecture.  There is/was no report on a car full of smart arses carrying on in a drunken manner.  Unless you know more that has been in the newspapers and other media, we can speculate until the cows come home.

I'll bow out of this discussion now and keep my trap shut.

All these conspiracy theories. I doubt the police would even know who Stathi Katsidis was.
I would say Magic was spot on and all they saw was a car load of drunk young guys and thought chances are we might find something here. As far as I am concerned it wasn't an abuse of powers it was a perfect use of powers the way they were meant to be used, to catch illegal drug users.

HWNN i didn't mean to offend u sorry... i just feel very passionately about it

Talk is Stathi has retired from race riding,he is a great rider but problems has not helped him with his weight,I wish him well.

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Kool

He may well retire after being suspended for nine months today for drugs.  Stathi has been ordered to undergo drug rehabilitation following an inquiry into a positive drug test apparently showed traces of ecstasy at Bundamba (do they still call it that) on 30 April.  Stahi pleaded guilty to the charge at a stewards' inquiry.  Think he will be allowed to ride track work in seven months time.

He still has to front the Toowoomba Magistrates Court on July 21 to face two charges of possessing drugs arising from the alleged discovery of ecstasy and steroids in his car when he was pulled over by police in early February.

He was breath-tested & found to be more than three times over the limit was fined $1,000 and disqualified from driving for nine months, no conviction was recorded.  I think this was the same day that he rode in Melbourne.



 

should give him life!!!

Grandstand, will it start any arguments if I agree with you?

As on the roads, there is no place in racing for alcohol and drug abusers/users.  To those who indulge, they are purely selfish in thinking only of themselves, their needs and desires. Too many lives depend on decisions made by these same people, in many cases they are matters of life, possibly as a para- or quadriplegic, or death.

I'm no angel as I've driven when well under the influence and I'm not proud of it. Thought it was smart at the time but sincerely regret such selfish thoughts now.  I will have a glass of wine or a few beers, but not if I'm getting in the car to drive within about 20/24 hours.

Stathi Katsidis who has been working as a breaker at Pinnacle Park near Beaudesert for the past six months, doing his time after stewards withdrew his licence for nine months had a fall (broken leg) last Friday   He is expected to leave hospital tomorrow and may be out for up to three months.