Racehorse TALK

Kangeroos.

That doesn't make ANY sense 

For anyone interested the horse brought $21K

So who owns the horse now ? Pat Duff ??

D.Duff,may be his bride.

Think it won next start midweek around $8K return on outlay

good ole queensland racing
surprised his son  milo mcduff wasnt the bidder....maybe he was mullet fishing with merri "merry" rose

Just picked this up from  www.letsgohorseracing.com.au     

Wednesdays Whinge section..Question asked and answer sought from RQL


"‘AFTER reading with interest about the inquiry involving trainer Pat Duff over the circumstances surrounding the sale of Spanish Fling, I am a little confused that this hearing was conducted by Sherriff John Schreck.

Firstly I thought the Chairman of RQ Stewards was Wade Birch and secondly did I not read where Mr Shreck has been appointed to the First Level Appeals Panel in Queensland?

I have no interest one way or another in the outcome of this inquiry but I find it hard to understand how even of man of Mr Shreck’s immense talents could fill both roles without there being suggestions of a conflict of interest.

I don’t know if I understand the situation or not. Did Mr Shreck lay the charges, hear them on his own then find there was no case to answer? Had there been a guilty finding surely he would have had to disqualify himself from any appeals panel.

More importantly, if the charges were laid after an independent investigation by the Integrity Department, let’s assume into a complaint from an owner of the horse, isn’t that illegal? Under the Rules of Racing don’t only stewards have the right to lay charges against licensees?

And even if the Schreck starting time with the Appeals Panel was set down for later than this inquiry, wouldn’t it have been wiser to use another senior steward to hear the matter and wouldn’t Mr Birch have been the obvious?

Forgive me for saying this, but this whole affair could have been handled very differently from the beginning.’ – Dan Livingstone, Sunshine Coast."

EDITOR’S NOTE: We passed your query onto Jamie Orchard, the Director of Integrity Operations for Racing Queensland, and he was kind enough to provide this reply Dan:

‘When Appeal Committees are formed to hear matters, those appointed can’t be, amongst other things, a Steward. Mr Schreck was not at the time of the Inquiry, a member of any Appeal Committee – he was merely amongst a panel of people who might be appointed to an Appeal Committee. In any event Mr Schreck held only a short-term appointment as a Steward under the Rules which expired immediately upon the conclusion of the Inquiry. He does not hold an appointment as a Steward and so is free to be appointed to an Appeal Committee. I note for the sake of completeness that the Integrity Department does not play any role in the appointment of individuals to Appeal Committees – that role is undertaken independently of this department.

‘There is nothing to be drawn from the fact that Mr Birch didn’t handle the Inquiry. The position in relation to non-race day matters is that they are generally investigated by Integrity Department investigators rather than race day Stewards. When, at the conclusion of an investigation, charges are laid, typically an independent person is appointed to hear the charges. I believe this is a fair system for those charged as they are provided with all evidence before the hearing, have an opportunity to take any advice and gather their own evidence and then have the matter dealt with by a person independent of the investigation/investigators. It was considered that Mr Schreck was sufficiently independent to be able to hear the matter fairly. (In any event, Mr Birch was on annual leave at the relevant time).

Reading between the lines it is assumed someone, not identified, made a complaint to RQL which came to the Integrity Dept for investigation.

The stewards apparently were not involved.

The ID charged  Pat Duff and referred the charge to John Schreck,an independent person,for determination.

Schreck imo  isn't an independent person even though they say he is. 

Still I don't disagree with his findings.

Pat Duff is an honourable decent man.imo.

lets see the integrity bluff/fluff on nev's holiday.....any comment on his son milo arsie?
another sleight of hand  by bob bent.s crew here nothing surer.....ps that big block at deagon of duff's mates rates when milo was working for merri merry?

ted  I have no complaint about him at all , in the few times I've spoken to him on the phone he was always courteous and helpful.

What I do find strange is that RQL found it necessary to charge Patt Duff apparently for not disclosing he was bidding for the horse or using an agent to do so when some time previously  they refused to entertain another complaint that a trainer had withheld a percentage of the sale figure without disclosing that to the owners.

theres not even a vine there yet,maybe a shoot in respect of queensland racing.....the favoured few ,the decisions made from bob bent.  and his mobile phone,the snow jobs,the fluff,the agression,the firepower,the consultants,the media advisers,the solicitors,the barristers,the auditors,the planners,the labor party government of toxity....as we all know its a web they weave that is soon to be un-spun....qrl actions in the case imo relate to attempted prosceuting of a case based on persisent owners with what they felt was a proven breach,ultimately a court of law was the place to determine this with a mediation outcome likely
ps the stakeholders money{see above}
pps who does hold the ultimate rights to racing?????????????????????????????????????????????????  stakeholders/voters or bob and bill and the labor party......there ya have it
ppps hi porky

Teddy you make a lot of Gobbledygook Charges and never any facts to back up anything you ever say, the facts don't even have to be true, just make some up but give us something that makes an ounce of sense,  you never say anything that makes any sense, just a lot of Claptrap!

JP,

Don't waste your time on Ted---its all my way or highway--Liberals--mind you the gibberish is a front--he is known in real life with a high IQ--just takes pleasure in hiding behind this.

any sign of milo...now a bentley troll formerally a merri troll

Mate Libs never have anything to back up what they say, in truth there are 2 things that the libs will vote for and 2 things only that determine their vote, Greed and Racism

Paid $7.00 Unitab  too.