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Author Topic: Racing in China...when and are we helpin?  (Read 3081 times)
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Shogun Lodge
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Original Post 2010-Sep-10, 10:12 AM

Have seen a few articles on telly again recently with reference to potential of China to keep our breeding industry
sound/bolstered if they EVER open it up.
Are we doin enough to convince em to get up and runnin?
Will they get over their anti gambling stance and let the industry commence?
Is it inevitable?
If, and when, they did, breeders would do OK for a few years I reckon...
(I have a mare from  family of Tierce, who went over there as their first sire.... wink wink)
Any thoughts or comment?
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2010-Sep-10, 10:19 AM

get your mate tony windsor to emailing for the answers hack biggrin
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Shogun Lodge
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2010-Sep-10, 10:41 AM

c'mon Steddy, you can do better than that.
Wazzup? One of your daughters gonna miss her $3000 per week pension from Tony?
You seem a bit.... ..bitter and stressed.
Stick to topic please
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2010-Sep-10, 11:02 AM

sorry hack just geeing you up pal...my daughters are only 3 and 4 yo but watch em they are stars of the future....every dad says that 2 love
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2010-Sep-10, 09:22 PM

Good point it's obviously a market with huge potential.

There was a good story on ABC24 last weekend on how the facilities had fallen into disrepair from it's recent heyday.

How do you encourage them. Do they need to modify their gambling stance before anything else can be achieved?
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2010-Sep-10, 09:48 PM

chinas in downturn....sussh dont tell swannie and fool-ya hence racing will not fire there now for many years
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2010-Sep-28, 09:19 PM

Inglis CEO Addresses China Horse Industry Association in Shanghai

26th Sep 2010

At the request of the China Horse Industry Association, Inglis Managing Director Mark Webster yesterday provided an address to equine conference delegates in Shanghai on the Australian thoroughbred breeding and racing industry. In attendance were many of the country’s equine enthusiasts and decision makers who participated in the three day 2010 China International Horse Fair.

Webster highlighted the versatility and toughness of the Australian thoroughbred, capable of winning races from a young age over all distances in Australia and around the world. The success of the Australian thoroughbred in Hong Kong and Singapore was well understood by the conference delegates.

Also highlighted during the address was the cost benefit of buying from Australia, where it is significantly cheaper to transport a horse via air freight from Australia to China than from Japan, the USA or even Hong Kong, despite Australia being further away. This is due to a much higher demand for air freight within Asia and on other routes.

Inglis was joined by other exhibitors in the Shanghai East Asia Exhibition Hall for the last three days which has showcased all equine pursuits to the growing customer base in China, and was the only thoroughbred sales company from around the world to exhibit and present to the delegates. Webster also provided an overview of Australian breeding and auction sales to an audience of 100 million on Chinese national television.

“Having sold over 60 thoroughbred yearlings to China in the last 18 months the profile of the product we breed and sell in Australia is really building momentum in this growing market. It was pleasing to hear from our clients that graduates from this years Easter Yearling Sale have adapted well to China and will be ready to commence racing in the next few months in Beijing, Shanghai and Wuhan,” said Mark Webster.

“We’ve had plenty of enquiries this week from new and existing clients up here to source more thoroughbreds, especially yearlings and broodmares, and expect a good turn out for our sales in 2011,” Webster added.

Last week Inglis Asia representative Peter Twomey joined with Thoroughbred Breeders Victoria to participate in a horse fair in Chengdu, providing assistance to the organisers of the first government sanctioned thoroughbred auction in China. The auction went very well with the horses sold to buyers from Shanghai, Beijing and local Chengdu owners and breeders. The Australian bred horses gifted by Victorian breeders were very well received and have generated a high level of goodwill.

Inglis is fully committed to building strong ties with new and emerging markets, and appreciate the proactive assistance from Qantas and Hunt & Hunt in helping Inglis to highlight the attributes of the Australian thoroughbred at the 2010 China International Horse Fair.
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2010-Sep-28, 09:23 PM

steve when and how often do they race......how many tracks....do stables still get their horses from a lottery type system?
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2010-Sep-28, 09:39 PM

ted e turner  Shogun Lodge might know more than myself - I understand they had a decent system running a few years back before the Govt cracked down on the industry.

There was a decent article on ABC24 in the last few weeks - showing facilities in a state of disrepair - I'll be there next year and will be trying to attend a meeting.
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2010-Sep-30, 09:33 PM

They use AI (Artifificial insemmination) I think, pretty sure they took Mouawad over there when he was found to have problems breeding here?? They were ostracised by the international racing community and nothing bred there could ever race anywhere else in the world, has anything changed??
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2010-Nov-08, 07:16 PM

Easter Two Year Olds Quinella Chinese National Championships


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A crowd of approximately 10,000 racing enthusiasts attended the Wuhan International Equestrian Festival on mainland China yesterday, enjoying an eight card program of thoroughbred racing ranging in distance from 400m to 5000m.

The highlight of the day was the Two Year Old Championship, the most prestigious race in China for juveniles, over 1000m.

Amongst a field of nine two year olds were two Australian breds, both Inglis Easter Yearling Sale graduates and both grandsons of the legendary Danehill. The pair of them dominated the race with more than eight lengths between the two Australians and the rest of the field.

The winner was the well named colt VERY FAST (AUS), by Fastnet Rock from Silent Song. This magnificent colt was knocked down for $130,000 at Easter earlier this year from the draft of Wimmera Park Stud.

The runner up SANDSTORM (AUS) is an Exceed and Excel colt from Royal Babe, fetching $70,000 for Attunga Stud at the same sale.

Both were purchased by prominent Chinese racehorse owners with the specific aim of competing in this race.

On hand to cheer home the Australian bred two year olds were Inglis Managing Director Mark Webster and Sydney Bloodstock Consultant Ian Macpherson.

"Whilst all eyes are on the first Tuesday of November back home, history was created here yesterday with the first Easter graduates to compete in China,” Webster said.

“We are thrilled with the result. The quality of the Australian bred horses was clear to everyone involved and the connections are to be congratulated for presenting their horses in such good condition.

“Jacky Wu and his team from the Lucky Orient Wuhan Jockey Club along with the Wuhan Government should also be commended for putting on such an impressive event. The grand stand and facilities here would be the envy of many metropolitan race clubs around the world."
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2010-Nov-09, 09:12 PM

I wonder if they race for dough, and how much they race for?
Still looks promising.
Thanks for posting Steve
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2010-Nov-11, 07:38 PM

No probs Shogun Lodge  Thumb Up

I mentioned this story to someone and they said they'd sold a yearling to China in recent times - will be interesting to see how it takes. I sense it could go either way - might take off or might go nowhere.
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2010-Nov-11, 07:42 PM

maybe the next big frontier for bob bent. after the new governmet spit him and his rotten crew out the shit shute at pinkenba love
a man of experiance,gumption and dictator status they will either love him or eat him....ewwwwwwwwwwwww bop
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2010-Nov-12, 02:08 PM

About a year or so ago they had some races there that made the web news, as the horses had come from OZ, turned out they were trials

The links to the supposed race sites have been going up & down like yo-yos. Had a link to the Chinese stud book, but that doesn't work anymore

Had links to both Wuhan Jockey Club & Lucky Orient

Guess I'll have to get searching again
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