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Original Post 2010-Sep-25, 11:33 PM

FRANKEL



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FRANKEL (GB) Bay colt 2008
Galileo
Bay 1998
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Hopespringseternal
Chestnut 1971
Buckpasser
Rose Bower
1963
1958
1-s
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978
Lombard
Chestnut 1967
Agio
Promised Lady
1955
1961
9-h
1-d
Anatevka
Chestnut 1969
Espresso
Almyra
1958
1962
7-a
9-h
Kind
Bay 2001
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Rainbow Lake
Bay 1990
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
I Will Follow
Bay 1975
Herbager
Where You Lead
1956
1970
16-c
14-f
Rockfest
Chestnut 1979
Stage Door Johnny
Chestnut 1965
Prince John
Peroxide Blonde
1953
1960
14-f
1-l
Rock Garden
Bay 1970
Roan Rocket
Nasira
1961
1960
13-c
1-k
Ancestor duplications: Northern Dancer 3m x 4m Natalma 4m x 5m,5f Buckpasser 5f x 5f


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2011-Oct-16, 03:41 PM

Listen to the last 400m or so of the race.  If you can make out what the hell is happening you're a better man than me.


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Is this the call you are talking about ?

It seems reasonable to me.
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2011-Oct-16, 03:52 PM

Sorry you went to so much trouble.  I meant So You Think's race. 
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2011-Oct-16, 07:26 PM

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2011-Oct-16, 11:26 PM

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Frankel: Now rated 143 after Ascot win

TIMEFORM INCREASE FRANKEL RATING

Frankel is now the fourth highest-rated Flat horse in the Timeform's history following his win in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes at Ascot on Saturday.

Sir Henry Cecil's unbeaten colt was on a mark of 142 going into the QIPCO-sponsored showpiece but has provisionally been put up a pound to 143 by the Halifax-based firm.

Only Sea Bird (145) and Brigadier Gerard (144) and Tudor Minstrel (144) have ever been rated higher.

Timeform's 140+ rated horses:
145 Sea Bird II
144 Brigadier Gerard, Tudor Minstrel
143 Frankel
142 Abernant, Ribot, Windy City
141 Mill Reef
140 Dancing Brave, Dubai Millennium, Sea The Stars, Shergar, Vaguely Noble.

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2011-Oct-19, 01:48 AM

Frankel - ascot - 115/10/2011

Fantastic Frankel equals highest RPR in history

WORLD CLASS:an analysis of the international scene according to Racing Post Ratings

SO just how good is Frankel?

On Saturday he equalled Dubai Millennium as the highest rated horse in RPR history with a mark of 139+ for his Queen Elizabeth II Stakes romp.

That figure has been the benchmark since 2000 when the Godolphin colt won the Dubai World Cup by six lengths and then the Prince Of Wales's Stakes by eight.

He was a remarkable horse who showed outstanding ability on dirt and turf alike, winning nine of his ten races from 1m to 1m2f with his sole defeat coming in the 1999 Derby.

The average winning distance of his nine victories was over five lengths, with an average of 5.6 lengths over his four Group 1 successes.

Frankel's average winning distance is currently 4.5 lengths with a Group 1 average of 3.6 lengths across his five top-level wins.

Judged on his peak performance Frankel has a repeatability (lengthof time before/since another horse is capable of matching the achievement) of around 10 years, but he's got another whole season to build on that and he already ranks even higher on other repeatability measures.

He is, for instance, the first horse since Nijinsky (1969-70) to be completely dominant over his first two seasons, which gives him a repeatability of 40 years.

Nijinsky managed to lose a couple of races at the end of his three-year-old season, finishing second in the Arc and Champion Stakes after a bout of ringworm, while Frankel has remained unbeaten in two seasons.

Nijinsky however showed more flexibility than Frankel, winning over sprint trips at two and bagging the triple crown at three.

No two horses are directly comparable, but when you have to go back to Nijinsky for parallels of dominance over two seasons and to Dubai Millennium to match his ability, then we're clearly getting into blue moon territory.

His four-length win over Excelebration in the QEII on Saturday was the same margin he had over Marco Botti's colt in the Greenham at Newbury on their first start of the year.

Both horses have improved since then, winning three races each in the interim, and at Ascot the runner-up managed to finish three-and-a-half lengths clear of Prix Jacques le Marois winner Immortal Verse.

Frankel is still running off weight-for-age at the moment (3lb on Saturday), although given that three-year-olds filled the first four places it had little bearing on this result.

Next year he will answer all the remaining questions -he will run without weight for age, he will test his stamina at 1m2f and he will attempt to go unbeaten across three seasons.

He has never been beaten and has never looked like being beaten. If he continues to dominate next year superlatives will not do him justice.

It was his devastating performance in the QEII which helped make the inaugural Champions Day a success, but the real test for the Ascot showpiece will come when the original Qipco sponsorship deal expires in 2013.

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2011-Dec-28, 11:03 PM

The new Flat season can’t come soon enough

Rarely – and understandably – do we get to see a brilliant four-year-old aiming to become the best ever, which is why we must savour every moment of Frankel

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011

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A theme regularly expounded in the racing media – and almost always deplored – is that of the tendency for most top-class three-year-olds to retire to stud at four, rather than to continue in racecourse competition. It is not something you will ever have read in any of my musings, for several reasons. The fact is, there is nothing new about the practice; it has been common for well over a century, understandably so.

Tradition may not mean much to Racing For Change, whose meddling with long-established race schedules has incensed me, but it has been crucial to the development of the breed, which has thrived in part due to the recognition, globally throughout the breeding industry, that what matters most about a colt’s career is what he achieves as a three-year-old.

Ask me what I think about the recent phenomenon of colts retiring to stud at three and you will not be surprised by my response. What a colt achieves as an adolescent is meaningless. As a schoolboy cricketer I was reckoned to be pretty good, deploying my off-spin effectively against other kids, but I couldn’t hack it even at village level in maturity, when batsmen routinely tonked me all over the ground and sometimes out of it. We see it so often in all sports; those who are precocious rarely progress to excel again when the competition becomes more intense.

What a colt achieves as an adolescent is meaningless

Putting a horse to stud after its two-year-old campaign amounts to an admission that it would not be competitive in the more challenging environment of three-year-old racing – an admission of failure, in fact. It would not be allowed to happen in Germany, where a minimum of two seasons in training is one of the requirements for obtaining a position at stud. I would be in favour of adopting that rule everywhere.

The fact that I am quite content with the practice of retiring colts to stud at four – let’s face it, what were the likes of Secretariat or Sea The Stars going to prove that they had not already proved at three? – does not mean I am less excited than anyone else over the prospect of a top-class three-year-old returning to action. It is a bonus for any racegoer to relish and I welcome the arrival of 2012 not least for the prospect of seeing Frankel in action again.

It is extremely rare for a colt who has already earned the epithet ‘great’ to remain in training at four. Indeed, it has not happened for 40 years, when Brigadier Gerard and Mill Reef – both Timeform-rated 141 as three-year-olds – returned to the fray. If we accept a rating of 140 as the mark of a great horse, there was no previous instance, though there might have been if Timeform had been able to determine its own rating for Ribot as a three-year-old.

Ribot had done all his racing in Italy until he contested the 1955 Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe – in which he started at 9-1! – and obtaining a handle on his precise merit was impossible. He was surely better than might be inferred from the tentative mark of 133 derived from the French official handicapper’s assessment and at four he advanced on Timeform’s scale to 142.

Ribot’s rating bettered by three
I was brought up in the belief that Ribot – whom I never saw – was the greatest horse of all time, or at least of modern times. I never expected to see one better but I have been fortunate and privileged enough to see three who have been more highly rated by Timeform. Sea-Bird was given the all-time high mark of 145 as a three-year-old in 1965, Brigadier Gerard was ranked only 1lb inferior as a four-year-old in 1972 and Frankel earned a 143 rating last year.

This is what makes 2012 so potentially exciting for me. The colt who ranks second only to Sea-Bird on three-year-old form starts his third season in training with only 2lb to find to match him as the best of any age group. If he can find 3lb, as Brigadier Gerard did in his four-year-old campaign, my long innings as a racegoer is going to be capped by the best horse I have ever seen – perhaps the best horse that anyone has ever seen.

The colt who ranks second only to Sea-Bird on three-year-old form starts his third season in training with only 2lb to find

It is worth recalling the achievements of those giants who began the 1972 season already designated great. Mill Reef, who had won the Derby, Eclipse, King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes and Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe – all by daylight margins – at three, raced only twice as a four-year-old. His performance in the Prix Ganay was phenomenal. Most of the best older horses in France were ranged against him, but his runner-up was flattered by finishing only ten lengths behind him. The colt had more in the tank than Geoff Lewis allowed him to show.

The Coronation Cup was very different. Only three opposed him, one of them his own pacemaker, but Mill Reef had to be shown the whip and made to battle for victory by a neck over Homeric, who had been runner-up in the previous season’s St Leger. That was not the real Mill Reef and if we thought at first that his below-par performance came as the result of having missed a couple of gallops in a preparation compromised by dreadful ground conditions at home, we soon found another excuse. A virus went through the Kingsclere stable and Mill Reef was surely sickening for it at Epsom.

Of course, worse was to follow. Still short of peak fitness, he had to miss the Eclipse and the King George, then a swollen hock caused his withdrawal from the Benson & Hedges Gold Cup. Back in training with a second Arc as his objective, he fractured his near foreleg and only pioneering surgery saved him for what turned out to be an outstanding stud career.

It would have been hard to advance Mill Reef’s rating from the 141 he earned at three. He certainly looked as good as ever in the Ganay and he might have been expected to improve with that run behind him. But the cruel hand he was dealt subsequently could do him no favours.

The Brigadier was well worth his mark

Brigadier Gerard began his third season still unbeaten after ten races. He extended his successful sequence to 15, taking in the Lockinge, the Westbury, the Prince of Wales, the Eclipse and the King George, before his still hard-to-comprehend defeat by Roberto in the Benson & Hedges. If he was a shade fortunate to keep his King George victory, having appeared to tire and hamper Parnell in the closing stages of his one and only race at a mile and a half, he was imperious in his other Ascot ventures, including a tremendously impressive display in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes. He rounded off his career with a clear-cut triumph over Riverman in the Champion Stakes.

It was certainly plausible that had Mill Reef remained healthy and sound, he might have made comparable improvement

Yes, it was certainly justifiable to raise the Brigadier’s rating to 144 on the basis of his third-season form. It was certainly plausible that had Mill Reef remained healthy and sound, he might have made comparable improvement. A horse in good heart after two campaigns in which he has not been over-raced is perfectly entitled to progress further with added strength and development.

Frankel has run only nine times to date, evidently remains as sound as a pound, and may well improve from three to four. He was in a class of his own last season, commanding his own generation and more than a match for his elders. The decision to keep him in training is highly commendable, because he has already done more than enough to ensure that he could have spent 2012 in the company of some of the most blue-blooded mares on the planet, earning far more for Prince Khalid than he might collect on the racecourse.

But another year means fresh challenges – the chance to prove himself master of the younger generation, to test him over longer distances, just possibly to attain the status of the highest-rated horse in history. I can hardly wait.

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2012-Apr-15, 01:10 AM

Its not confirmed but he may have been retired.
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2012-May-06, 12:04 AM

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Doesn't it just bring a smile to your face when you see him gallop.
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2012-May-06, 02:59 AM

Yes.

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2012-May-06, 09:46 AM

Agree Vampire the power of his stride continually rolling forward faster and longer is thrilling to watch.
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£100m Frankel could test Timeform's ratings on his Newbury comeback

Frankel is already regarded as the best current racehorse in the world and could have been retired to stud, but a big enough win at Newbury on Saturday could lift his all-time ranking significantly

 
       
                                                                                                                     
               
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Frankel will return to the track at Newbury next Saturday for the Lockinge Stakes. Photograph: Sean Dempsey/PA
 
 

Frankel, the best racehorse in the world and one of the most exciting there has ever been, returns to action on Saturday. When he steps on to the Newbury turf, it will be an extraordinary moment and not just because the spectators will have the unusual experience of looking at an animal who is more valuable than the grandstand, which hardly ever happens away from Bangor or maybe Fakenham.

A horse of Frankel's ability is supposed to be at stud by now, earning a healthy income of, say, £50,000 per mare covered at an annual rate of more than 100 mares each year. Sending him back to the track for another summer is a purely sporting decision by his owner, Khalid Abdullah, because this is a horse whose reputation and value are all but unimprovable.

Bloodstock agents, asked to assess Frankel's worth before his most recent race in October, came up with a figure of £100m. For that to go up, he would probably have to prove his ability as a sire, which cannot happen until his sons and daughters hit the track in four years.

Wonderhorse is frequently bandied about in the spring of every Flat season, usually in relation to some callow three-year-old who is sure to let his supporters down at some point. Frankel gives the term renewed potency because, in his case, its use is not appropriately answered by a cynical smirk. His is the talent in which even the most hard-hearted hack is prepared to believe.

Even so, a cool, clear-eyed assessment is expected from the analysts at Timeform, the respected publishing firm that has been rating racehorses for almost 70 years. "Everybody here, old and young, believe he's the best we've ever seen," says Jamie Lynch, their chief correspondent.

That, however, is not quite the official position. Frankel has only the fourth-highest rating (143) in the history of Timeform and Lynch would clearly enjoy giving Frankel the biggest number yet, though he insists he is "not just going to do that, willy-nilly".

"The problem is, it could be more about his opportunities than his ability and he's going to need some help from his contemporaries if he's to get to that figure. The good news is that there's some top-class horses out there who could allow him to express his true ability.

"There's Excelebration and Cirrus Des Aigles, who are both on 133, and then there's Black Caviar [136]. If Frankel beats any one of those good horses this year by five or six lengths, that will take him into realms that no horse has ever been into in Timeform's history."

Excelebration is among those due to oppose Frankel in next Saturday's Lockinge Stakes, so Lynch's hopes could be fulfilled in a matter of days. And yet he is concerned about whether the horse will be remembered with the right degree of reverence.

"It's a bit disappointing that the campaign that's been mapped out for him is only in Britain, so far. I'd love to see him prove his worth on another stage and he'll maybe be undermined slightly if he doesn't do that. We all believe he could win almost any race at any distance on any surface."

When a horse repeatedly lines up for races in conditions that are known to suit him, rather than being tested in a new way, those close to him usually justify their conservatism by saying they are doing what's best for him. "But," says Lynch, "doing best by the horse is giving him the chance to show himself in the best possible light."

He would like to see Frankel turn up for the Breeders' Cup Classic in America in November, or the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe in France in October. Neither is favoured as a target by Lord Grimthorpe, Abdullah's racing manager, who says: "He'll follow the agenda that he shows us he is most capable of doing."

After the Lockinge, that means Frankel will go to Royal Ascot for the Queen Anne, or the Prince of Wales if it is decided he is ready to step up from a mile to a mile and a quarter. His most likely races thereafter are the Eclipse at Sandown in July, York's International in August, which Abdullah sponsors, and the Champion Stakes at Ascot in October.

The most likely targets abroad would be the Irish Champion Stakes in September or the Prix d'Ispahan in France this month if the ground at Newbury turns out to be bottomless, in which case he would miss the Lockinge. "Whatever you do with a horse, people always want more," Grimthorpe sighs. "They say, why don't you run him over six furlongs or a mile and a half, or why didn't you run him in Bucharest? The main thing is, people [connected with other racehorses] have a good idea where he's going and then, if they want to take him on, that would be fine."

Frankel's trainer, Sir Henry Cecil, reports the horse sailed through his last serious pre-Lockinge gallop on Saturday and should be ready for next Saturday's race, despite having missed around 10 days with an injury scare last month. So far as can be established, he has made a complete recovery from the knock he gave one of his legs, which briefly prompted rumours of his retirement.

"All the indications are that it shouldn't be a problem," Grimthorpe says, adding that Frankel appears to have matured in his attitude. "I think you're going to see a slightly more controlled but nevertheless explosive racehorse."Grimthorpe admits to having been "a bit nervous" as he waited for news of the scan that would determine the extent of Frankel's recent injury. That took several days because the horse could not be assessed until inflammation around the site of his knock had reduced.

"When I first said 'haemhorraging', people looked at me like there was blood gushing from his leg," Grimthorpe recalls, "but it was a tiny, tiny little bit that just gives that inflammation. When the vets were happy with it, he went straight to be scanned and thankfully the result was a good one."

He pours cold water on the chance of a meeting between Frankel and Black Caviar, the Australian sensation who achieved her 21st consecutive victory yesterday and is due to visit England this summer. "Funnily enough, I saw Peter Moody [trainer of Black Caviar] in Hong Kong the other day and we joked about it.

"I think both camps understand the big desire to see the two great champions clash but, in reality, Black Caviar's programme looks like it's going to revolve around five to seven furlongs, whereas our programme at the moment is between eight and 10. You can't be all things to all people."

 
                             
           
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Frankel red-hot for return

The world’s highest rated racehorse Frankel has been posted a red-hot favourite to extend his unbeaten sequence to 10 in Sunday’s Group I Lockinge Stakes (1600m) at Newbury.

TAB Sportsbet have made the Henry Cecil-trained colt the $1.33 favourite for his four-year-old debut.

Frankel overcame an injury scare last month and is likely to have a pacemaker, stablemate Bullet Train, in Sunday’s feature.

While dual Cox Plate winner So You Think was amongst the nominations, his trainer Aidan O’Brien said it was unlikely the son of High Chaparral would contest the race.

O’Brien said So You Think, who is at $7.50 for Sunday’s race, could resume in the Tattersalls Gold Cup at The Curragh on May 27.

The trainer provides the clear second pick for the Lockinge Stakes in Excelebration. The galloper chased home Frankel on three occasions last preparation when under the care of Marco Botti.

Excelebration is a $4.40 chance and apart from So You Think, is the only other runner under double figure odds.

O’Brien said Excelebration had "strengthened up” since his three-year-old season and was "good enough” to compete in the Group I feature event.

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Is it possible to make a slight change to your excellent title of this thread. Definitely leave the 'I just saw the New Nijinsky' bit as that has become historic but could you add Frankel to the end of it. I just think that heaps more members will come and visit when they know it is about him.

'I just saw the New Nijinsky.........Frankel' would spark an even greater level of interest.

And he bloody deserves to be recognised in the thread title by now  love
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2012-May-16, 10:54 PM

Brilliant.

Can't wait to see him return.
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