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Original Post 2010-Dec-31, 09:44 PM

The suggestion of starting a thread dedicated to rate staying races seems to have a lot of support.

Will use this thread for such a purpose.

General strategy:

- no set rules, except base it around the method espoused by the late Don Scott (who acknowledged Pittsburgh Phil as the original handicapper).
- a collaborative effort. Please feel free to contribute
- initially start off gathering data and determine the best way to store this data.

Eventually hoping we have a nice set of stats that might lead us to making a buck or two.

26/01/11  outlay $65 collect $170.
29/01/11  outlay $75 collect $198.
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2011-Sep-30, 01:38 PM

2011 Metropolitan

No Horse Barrier Weight Top Rating Race Adjust Net Rating Rank
1 TRUSTING 10 57 70 Hill Stakes 2011 -1 64 4
2 HAWK ISLAND (IRE) 16 56 67.5 Wyong Cup 2010 -0.5 63 7
3 HERCULIAN PRINCE (NZ) 17 55 67.5 Metropolitan 2010 -0.5 64 4
4 ILLUSTRIOUS BLUE (GB) 3 55 67 Sandown Cup 2010 -3 61 17
6 STAND TO GAIN (IRE) 13 53 66 Sydney Cup 2011 -2 63 7
7 TULLAMORE (NZ) 7 52.5 65 Brisbane Cup 2011
64.5 3
8 LAMASERY 8 52 67 Colin Stephen 2011
67 1
10 IRONSTEIN 5 52 62.5 Brisbane Cup 2011
62.5 11
11 LODGE THE DEEDS 11 52 62.5 Metropolitan 2009
62.5 11
12 THE VERMINATOR 18 52 63 Wyong Cup 2011 -0.5 62.5 11
13 BELLAGIO WYNN 6 52 63 2010 Christmas Cup
63 7
14 CRAFTY IRNA 9 52 66 Kingston Town Stks 2011
66 2
15 SPECHENKA 2 52 64 Caloundra Cup 2011
64 4
16 PRAECIDO (NZ) 1 52 62 Colin Stephen 2011
62 15
17 RED EYE SPECIAL (NZ) 12 52 62.5 Colin Stephen 2011
62.5 11
18 HOME ON A WING 19 52 63.5 Newcastle Cup 2011 -0.5 63 7
19e SPLENDID HONOURS 4 52 61.5 Newcastle Cup 2011
61.5 16


TAB Horse Net Rate Curr Odds Lngths
8 LAMASERY 67 $6.00
14 CRAFTY IRNA 66 $10.00 1
7 TULLAMORE (NZ) 64.5 $7.00 2.5
1 TRUSTING 64 $5.00 3
3 HERCULIAN PRINCE (NZ) 64 $23.00 3
15 SPECHENKA 64 $61.00 3
2 HAWK ISLAND (IRE) 63 $7.00 4
6 STAND TO GAIN (IRE) 63 $13.00 4
13 BELLAGIO WYNN 63 $71.00 4
18 HOME ON A WING 63 $15.00 4
10 IRONSTEIN 62.5 $17.00 4.5
11 LODGE THE DEEDS 62.5 $101.00 4.5
12 THE VERMINATOR 62.5 $21.00 4.5
17 RED EYE SPECIAL (NZ) 62.5 $18.00 4.5
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2011-Nov-01, 12:35 AM

2011 Melbourne Cup

TAB No Horse Weight Top Rating Adj Rating Predict Lengths Curr Odds
15 LOST IN THE MOMENT (IRE) 53 70.5 68.5 1 0 $35.00
8 FOX HUNT (IRE) 53.5 70 67.5 2 1 $34.00
4 DRUNKEN SAILOR (IRE) 54 70 67 3 1.5 $36.00
17 AT FIRST SIGHT (IRE) 52.5 68.5 67 3 1.5 $13.00
19 SAPTAPADI (IRE) 52 68 67 3 1.5 $91.00
16 MODUN (IRE) 53 68.5 66.5 6 2 $29.00
22 TULLAMORE (NZ) 52 67.5 66.5 6 2 $20.00
14 ILLO (GER) 53 68 66 8 2.5 $19.00
18 MOYENNE CORNICHE (GB) 52 67 66 8 2.5 $28.00
3 DUNADEN (FR) 54.5 69 65.5 10 3 $8.50
6 MANIGHAR (FR) 54 68.5 65.5 10 3 $35.00
10 MOURAYAN (IRE) 53.5 68 65.5 10 3 $16.00
12 RED CADEAUX (GB) 53.5 68 65.5 10 3 $36.00
23 NIWOT 51 65.5 65.5 10 3 $10.00
1 AMERICAIN (USA) 58 72 65 15 3.5 $4.80
2 JUKEBOX JURY (IRE) 57 71 65 15 3.5 $12.00
9 LUCAS CRANACH (GER) 53.5 66.5 64 17 4.5 $12.00
7 UNUSUAL SUSPECT (USA) 54 66.5 63.5 18 5 $36.00
5 GLASS HARMONIUM (IRE) 54 66 63 19 5.5 $31.00
13 HAWK ISLAND (IRE) 53 65 63 19 5.5 $101.00
21 THE VERMINATOR 52 64 63 19 5.5 $81.00
24 OLDER THAN TIME 51 62 62 22 6.5 $151.00
11 PRECEDENCE (NZ) 53.5 64 61.5 23 7 $36.00
20 SHAMROCKER (NZ) 52 62 61 24 7.5 $56.00
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2011-Nov-01, 06:48 AM

PP, Thats given me a real lift this morning. You've got my quinella as your first 2
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2011-Nov-01, 06:56 AM

also enjoy the ratings with the top two my tips to my mates (each way)

the same people who thought black caviar was a good bet today
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Track Condition:

Heavy 8

Time:

3:01.53

Last 600m:

0:37.64

INTERIM RESULTS                                
FinishNo.HorseTrainerJockeyMarginBar.Weight
1 4 VATUVEI Peter G Moody Luke Nolen
14 56kg 104
2 10 PRACTICED Robert Hickmott Craig Williams 1.25L 7 56kg 101
3 13 ABOUT THE JOURNEY (NZ) Peter Gelagotis Daniel Moor 12.25L 11 56kg 79
4 1 BACKBONE Michael Kent Brad Rawiller 17L 6 57.5kg 74
5 11 RIVE GAUCHE Jim Conlan Dwayne Dunn 20.25L 3 56kg 64
6 3 STARKIATO John Sadler Glen Boss 21.25L 16 56kg 62
7 5 DUEL LOVER (NZ) Nigel Blackiston Michael Walker 21.65L 10 56kg 61
8 16 ALLGRACEFUL Patrick Payne Ms Michelle Payne 24.4L 15 54kg 51
9 2 METHUSELAH John McArdle Jarrod Todd 25.4L 12 57.5kg 56
10 15 WITTENOOM WAY Gerald Ryan Jake Noonan (a) 26.65L 8 54kg 47
11 14 TORANOS Michael Kent Chris Symons 29.4L 5 56kg 45
12 8 KING OF THE FOREST Guy Walter Michael Rodd 32.15L 9 56kg 40
13 6 COMPELLED (NZ) Eric Musgrove Craig Robertson 32.65L 4 56kg 39
14 12 PRESIDE (NZ) Eric Musgrove Jack Hill 47.65L 1 56kg 9
15 7 BABY BOY Ron Daniel Craig Newitt 56.65L 13 56kg -9
16 9 THE SATIRIST Peter Healey Ms Katelyn Mallyon (a) 99.9L 2 56kg -89
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2012-Apr-25, 10:46 PM

Track Condition:

Heavy 8

Time:

2:50.33

Last 600m:

0:37.72

INTERIM RESULTS
Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight
1 2 ALMODOVAR (NZ) Peter G Moody Luke Nolen
2 57.5kg 94
2 3 STREAKY FELLA Aaron Purcell Craig Williams 0.75L 3 57.5kg 92
3 1 SADDLER’S STORY Robert Smerdon Jake Duffy (a3) 4.25L 1 58kg (cd 55kg) 87
4 9 HIGH KINGCZAR Michael Ryan Vlad Duric 7L 4 57.5kg 86
5 4 MR RIGGS Robbie Griffiths Glen Boss 7.75L 6 57.5kg 85
6 6 TAKE OUT Eric Musgrove Jack Hill 13.25L 5 57.5kg 74
7 8 TOOLE Mark Jackson Jarrod Fry (a2) 13.65L 7 57.5kg (cd 55.5kg) 69
8 5 WARRINGAH (GB) Daryl Archard Ben Knobel (a3) 21.65L 9 57.5kg (cd 54.5kg) 51
9 7 LE GRAND ACE Allan J Clark Dean Holland 37.65L 8 57.5kg 25
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2012-Apr-25, 11:02 PM

Geelong

UTE FULLA LOOT Handicap (2860 METRES)


Track Condition:

Good 3

Time:

3:06.28

Last 600m:

0:39.26

INTERIM RESULTSOffical Comments:

Late Scratching Een Leven ($15) @ 3:50pm. Deductions in $ Win 2c

Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight
1 2 LORD OF THE SONG Patrick Payne Dale Smith
1 57kg 55
2 10 GROENENBOOM Edwin Batt Ms Rhagan Cross (a3) 2.75L 3 54kg (cd 51kg) 43
3 8 NARINGALING Michael Templeton Ms Ruth Bradley 3.15L 2 54kg (cd 54.5kg) 48
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2012-May-01, 03:20 PM

Patrick Payne might have a good stayer BACHELOR ROYAL. 2 for 2, 1450m in the heavy and now a slashing win over 1700m at Warrnambool. Looked good.
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