Racehorse TALK

Another ing do gooder that has too much voice, love to know if she has any facts to back he claims? 

funny enough on a day when the NSW government brings this out

NSW greyhound muzzle laws revised
13:13 AEST Sat Feb 12 2011
1 day 8 hours 5 minutes ago


Non-racing greyhounds will no longer have to wear a muzzle once they complete an approved retraining program, the NSW government says.

The amendment was announced on Saturday to encourage the adoption of more ex-racing greyhounds, Local Government Minister Barbara Perry said on Saturday.

Many greyhounds are unable to find a home due to the muzzle requirement once their racing days are over.

The opposition and Australian Veterinary Association welcomed the move, which will bring NSW policy in line with Victoria, Queensland, South Australia and the ACT.

"The decision will mean that many more greyhounds will now be rescued and placed with families rather than facing death row at the end of their racing career," Ms Perry said in a statement.

Greyhound owners will still face tough dog control laws, even if their dog passes the suitability test, with greyhounds required to wear bright green collars in public.

Opposition intergovernmental relations spokesman Chris Hartcher said the exemption would give "a far better outcome" to greyhounds and their owners.

"Greyhound pets bring joy and happiness. They are affectionate and non-aggressive," Mr Hartcher said

OK, lets see this woman destroyed by the pro dog racing people.

Is she wrong, are too many dogs being bred and destroyed ?

Are there too many horses being bred and sent to the knackery ?

What a horrible decision. Once again this opens up the possibility of people being licked to death by a greyhound. 

There is a much larger % of humans born every year that are "guaranteed" death AND a lower standard of living in the process than either greyhounds or racehorses

It was a moronic, attention seeking reporter or editor who accepted this story.

If they ban dog racing wouldn't "Friends of the Hound" cease to exist?
I'm afraid we Racehorse people have RSPCA nutters to contend with and you greyhound folk have Ms White.

I hope the Greyhound people are more respectable and simply prove her wrong rather than attacking her as a dogooding no gooder.

Hopefully they come out and tell Ms White that there are not so many dogs being bred and destroyed because they are surplace to requirements.

Good point, I love greyhound racing but how many "non-performing" or retired dogs are actually being put down?

What is an acceptable level?

I am an animal lover,  certainly moreso than a human lover, however I cannot understand why these people spend there time pushing these points when hundreds of millions of humans are living in far worse conditions ???
Racing animals in Australia are, in general, very happy and healthy.
I have owned and worked with racehorses and greyhounds and I can tell you only a small % of humans live as good a life 

She's not worth responding to when you see ridiculous and hysterical quotes like this 




Those quotes show me I doubt she's ever thrown a collar around one 

So do all the dogs find good homes and she is simply wrong ?

There are around 20,000 greyhounds bred in Australia every year (this can be substantiated by Greyhounds Australasia Ltd - check their website). The numbers of greyhound pups born equates to 21,500 in 2005; 21,700 in 2006; 20,200 in 2007;19,200 in 2008; & 18,600 in 2009. In 2009 there were over 13,000 named greyhounds - giving a total population of around 32,000.  What do you think happens to them?  We know that less than 1,000 of these dogs were rehomed as pets by the few adoption agencies around the country. Industry spin would like us to believe that most racing participants are 'hobbyists' & therefore keep all their dogs.  Do you believe that there are over 250,000 greyhounds sitting around on lounges as much loved pets in the homes of their racing owners?  There is a mass wastage of these dogs.  This is fact.  There needs to be transparency & accountability in the greyhound racing industry.  Monetary contributions to our economy is the main argument FOR this 'sport' - but what masses of people are now questioning is whether the purported financial gain to our community justifies the breeding & killing of thousands upon thousands of dogs each year. Whether you like it or not, the ethical treatment of animals is gaining much focus around the world & this is a breed of one of the world's most favoured companion animals. There is a changing culture - where people no longer support the use of dogs in racing & gambling - where modern society takes an increasingly negative view of what was an iconic Aussie pastime. According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics less than 2% of our population attend greyhound racing events. (And 74% of these only attend once or twice a year). Dog racing has been banned in Sth Africa, is declining in the UK, and now only exists in 7 states of the USA, with strong campaigns to have it banned completely in the US. I have worked very closely with owners/trainers in rehoming their greyhounds for the past 8 years & know that my volunteer work has been less than a 'drop in the ocean' with regard to numbers of dogs that cannot be saved due to the huge volume bred for this industry. Over 220 greyhounds have been fostered in my own home during this time. It was one of my colleagues that did much of the groundwork in bringing about the new NSW muzzling exemption laws. Come in Spinner.... yes, the ultimate aim of Friends of the Hound (a NFP volunteer greyhound rescue group)is to NOT be needed.  (And DJH... just not sure what point you're trying to make  - greyhounds have better lives than people??) Anyway if someone can prove me wrong, provide further statistics or justify the numbers - please do so.  Some accountability would be greyt.

Well said hounded. 

Not sure I agree with ALL your points but the main gist of your argument is that too many dogs are bred to race. Not sure how accurate your figures are but I do agree the racing industry (both dog & horse racing) should cap the breeding to a reasonable extent. It would be a very positive step but don't hold your breath. The racing industry is a very backward industry, probably 50 years behind the times. 

     

Are there too many dogs bred? I'd say no doubt.

Should there be reform? I'd say no doubt.

Should we listen to people who ignore the joy greyhounds gets from running in races(after all every sighthound breed is born to chase and run) and call for the sport to be wiped out? I'd say not for a second.



Also, all I'll say on the figures being put out by the organisation in question, such as the 250,000 greyhounds in the country, is that they are based on there being 0% natural mortality in a greyhounds expected lifespan(12-14 years). That alone tells me a lot on the validity of there use of figures.


I'll use the figures on the site they recommend to counter claim the dying sport theory of this organistation as well.

2003   41,516 races held and $50.678 million in stakemoney paid out.
2010   43,211 races held and $73.774 million in stakemoney paid out.

So the average/race has gone from $1220 to over $1707 in 7 years, a 40% increase.

Not too many dying sports increase revenue streams by 40% in 7 years.  

I wouldn't say that racing in any code is dying out either. I did say I didn't agree with ALL the points made.