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JWesleyHarding
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Original Post 2011-May-07, 08:34 PM

Are our locals so poor that previously regarded B-graders are having a ball dropping down in grade?

Or do these imports appreciate our conditions?

Or are our trainers (and staff) so much better that they can bring out the best in their charges?

Or are those bringing them here more astute than their previous connections?

Or........ What?
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2011-May-07, 08:43 PM

Are you looking at the denominator as well as the numerator?  Great Idea
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Jim Pike
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2011-May-07, 08:51 PM

Without giving it a lot of thought it probably has a lot to do with maturity
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2011-May-07, 09:08 PM

Are our locals so poor that previously regarded B-graders are having a ball dropping down in grade?


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2011-May-08, 09:24 AM

My Kingdom Of Fife and Glass Harmonium where not poor horses by any stretch of the imagination.

Glass Harmonium was beaten less than 5 lengths by Snow Fairy in Hong Kong last December, the very fact he went to Hong Kong for such a race speaks volumes for his quality.

My Kingdom Of Fife was only rated 3 lbs inferior to Glass Harmonium in the UK, Gelding has possibly helped. He was competing in races that if run in Australia would have group status despite having no right to group status.

If you see UK horses in the form guide and the guides says they have been racing in CLASS 1 and 2 races, these are very very good quality races and should not be sniffed at.

I like the fact both Waller and Moroney do not wast time "acclimatising the horses" It seems to me they are not spending months in a paddock getting fat before being put into work.

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2011-May-08, 09:37 AM

It might also be that we are not getting just plodding stayers any more, these are group or Heritage Handicap types over 1600-2000m - they simply should be competitive in the races they are in.

Auth, you may have to add Kav to that list of trainers after yesterday.
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2011-May-08, 09:49 AM

Bugger, missed him.   lol   shy
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2011-May-08, 12:00 PM

English galloper in Flemington upset
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Saturday, 7 May 2011:

Prominent Sydney owner Richard Pegum may have snared another big race winner following the shock victory of former English galloper December Draw at Flemington.

Pegum, who is a hedge fund manager, bought December Draw at around same time he purchased My Kingdom Of Fife who has won the Group Three Doncaster Mile Prelude, the Group One Queen Elizabeth Stakes and Saturday's Group Two Hollindale Stakes at his first three Australian starts.

December Draw was unwanted in betting for his Australian debut in Saturday's AGL Renewable Energy Trophy (1600m) drifting from $18 to $26 and caught trainer Mark Kavanagh off guard.

"Unbelievable," was all Kavanagh could say moments after December Draw scored a hard fought nose win over Under The Hat ($6) and Royal Commands ($15).

December Draw is the first horse Kavanagh has trained for Pegum who co-owns the five-year-old gelding with one of Kavanagh's established owners Gary Towzell.

Kavanagh said My Kingdom Of Fife, trained by Chris Waller, and December Draw arrived in Australia at about the same time and he was unconvinced when Pegum told him he had given him the best horse.

"He is a pretty lucky guy," Kavanagh said.

"He wasn't backward in telling me he knew what sort of horse to pick for Australia and I'm quite happy to agree with him right now."

Kavanagh said December Draw, who had won three of his 16 starts overseas, had worked better than his form suggested.

Of particular concern was that December Draw had finished sixth in the Royal Hunt at Royal Ascot in June last year and hadn't raced since an unplaced run in July.

"I was pretty confident a couple of weeks ago that he would run a big race but then I pulled the form out and Hunt Club form, with all due respect, is not good form," Kavanagh said.
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"However you can only take what you see on face value and he was worth a ticket each way."

Pegum had hoped to win Friday's Wagga Cup but Kingdom Of Fife proved he was much superior to that class and December Draw didn't come up in time.

Kavanagh predicted a bright future for December Draw and said his priority was now to raise his rating which was 72 going into Saturday's race.

"I think there is a bit of improvement in him as he was first up over a mile today," Kavanagh said.

"I had him a little bit loose and a little bit big and I thought he would run out of petrol.

"That was a solid run and he was on the bridle and working the whole time."

"You never know where he is going to go but if you want to push on and look at something a little better down the line you certainly have to get his rating up so he is not going to hit the ballot."






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2011-May-08, 12:03 PM

How is the VRC handicapper rating these imports ?

December Draw had an official rating of 97 in the UK, Yet here he gets a 72 rating ?
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2011-May-08, 12:59 PM

Authorised,

The horses average earnings were very low.... might have something to do with it.

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2011-May-08, 05:12 PM

I must say I reckon they are doing well because they have honed the right type to buy.

That, and given the volume now compared to the past, meaning more are going to go well.
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2011-May-28, 01:19 PM

I don't know why they are doing so well but Foreteller looked top class just than.
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2011-May-28, 01:26 PM

I don't know why they are doing so well but Foreteller looked top class just than.


Showed a nice turn of foot, opposition takes turns though so could be questionable  chin
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2011-May-28, 01:35 PM

If Kontiki Park had been 6 lengths in front of him instead of 3 lengths behind him(Like he should have been) would the result still been the same?
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2011-May-28, 01:50 PM

If they ALL carried the same weight how would the result stand ?
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