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Steve M
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Original Post 2011-May-28, 10:24 AM

Thought I'd start a post to put it into one [Royal Ascot deserves it's own]. News of interest - vids.
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2011-May-28, 10:25 AM



Return of Workforce
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2011-May-29, 01:13 AM

Believe to be short of a run and it showed.  He was flat out catching the leader. 
Looks a lot more dour than SYT and I can't see him beating him over 1 1/4 miles. 
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2011-May-29, 01:31 AM

Interesting reader comment on the YouTube video:

I'm just curious? Did anyone take notice of RacingUK doing a short interview with Ryan Moore after Workforce won this race? He was put on the spot, being told, "you've rode both So You Think and Workforce, which one do you prefer"? Moore smiled, refused to comment, and patted the RacingUK announcer on the shoulder as he walked away. Does that say anything to anyone else but me?? If I really believed Workforce was the better horse of the 2 after this win? I sure would've said so for the record.
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2011-May-29, 01:34 AM

He is riding for two very important breeders he has to bite his tongue.
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2011-May-29, 02:27 AM

He is riding for two very important breeders he has to bite his tongue.




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2011-May-29, 11:28 AM

Believe to be short of a run and it showed.  He was flat out catching the leader. 
Looks a lot more dour than SYT and I can't see him beating him over 1 1/4 miles. 


Have to take it on face value that horses are at different stages of their prep aren't they.
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2011-May-29, 06:55 PM

Lester Piggott: at 75 still the Derby's lord of the reins

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/may/29/lester-piggott-interview
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2011-May-29, 07:04 PM

Have to take it on face value that horses are at different stages of their prep aren't they.


How does the second horse stack up? They absolutely smashed the rest.
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2011-May-30, 10:21 PM

Others might have more feel than myself but consistent horse - last 8 months has him with strong G3 form - G2 placed.
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2011-May-31, 11:48 AM

Workforce - sandown 26.05.2011

Workforce and So You Think promise a fascinating rivalry this season

  PICTURE: Edward Whitaker (racingpost.com/photos)

Middle distance rivalry promises battle royal

WORLD CLASS:an analysis of the international scene according to Racing Post Ratings

WORKFORCE impressed in the Brigadier Gerard Stakes on Thursday, but he needed to, since he could be the only horse standing in the way of a So You Think whitewash.

Australia has long held sway in the global sprint division, but the same had also been true of Europe in the middle-distance division – until So You Think came along.

The European dominance over 1m4f isevident year in year out, with horses unable to make the frame in their championship races consistently able to bag top-level prizes overseas.

In the last 12 months Mastery (Hong Kong), Redwood (Canada), Joshua Tree (Canada), Mr Medici (Hong Kong), Rewilding (Dubai), Mighty High (Hong Kong) and Dangerous Midge (US) have all won Group 1s abroad. There was also Snow Fairy (over 1m3f) in Japan, although she did win at championship level in Europe.

This dominance is down in a large part to the major breeding operations keeping a tight hold on their strong dam lines, which consistently throw up the world's greatest middle-distance runners.

But it is also down to the racing culture in Europe, where 1m4f races carry a higher level of prestige than in the rest of the world.

So You Think bids to strike right at the heart of this established hierarchy, defeating the Europeans on their turf at the distance they have long proved dominant.

It is a typical underdog story, but with a little twist: he is not an underdog.

He has already run to a similar level to Workforce and is yet to be asked a serious question. But can he really be expected to have it easy in 2011?

Well, unless one of his stablemates (Await The Dawn or St Nicholas Abbey) improves significantly, it appears that there is only one horse whocan stop him. Workforce.

Next best on RPRs behind the big two is Sarafina, but with more improvement expected from So You Think and Workforce they look set to have a duopoly over the major middle-distance prizes.

While never-off-the-bridle So You Think could yet be anything, it would be folly to suggest Workforce is exposed, as he hails from a yard that excels at getting horses to improve out of all recognition from three to four.

Harbinger improved 19lb on RPRs from three to four, Mountain High 15lb, Notnowcato 18lb and Spanish Moon 16lb.

As a Derby-Arc winner, Workforce is the best three-year-old Sir Michael Stoute has ever kept in training at four, and if you factor in the normal improvement levels from that yard, he could develop into something quite outstanding.

You wouldn't expect him to progress quite as much as some of his predecessors and bang out a 145 figure in the King George, but the above improvement figures do highlight what that yard is capable of with their best older horses.

They also point to Workforce putting down a serious mark as he bids to derail the antipodean juggernaut.

Stoute's charge certainly made a bright start to the season at Sandown on Thursday, indicating that he could be better than ever by winning in a style that underlined his determination and class.

The one-length margin over Poet, even considering the winner's 7lb penalty, tells little of what actually happened at Sandown that night.

Poet quickly grabbed a nice lead and managed to maintain a five to eight length cushion for the first half of the race.

When they turned in it became clear that nothing was going to catch him, unless Workforce could do something extraordinary.

As Workforce gradually wore down the leader, the rest of the field, which included Jan Vermeer andCavalryman, failed to get within four lengths of Poet, eventually fading to finish a full 11 lengths behind the runner-up.

Considering where Workforce had to come from and what happened to the others that tried to match his manoeuvre,it was an incredible effort to actually win.

Workforce was rated 'straight' for his length margin over Poet (118), producing a winning RPR of 127+, but given the means of his success and the fact that Stoute expected him to come on a lot for the run, this effort can only indicate good things for the season ahead.

With two horses potentially capable of rating in the mid-130s (or higher) the clashes between Workforce and So You Think promise to provide the backbone to the 2011 season.

We can only hope that connections show a little backbone themselves and allow their champions to lock horns at least once.

Improvement can be expected from both horses now they are fully mature, but precisely how much they find will probably only be revealed if and when they meet.

It might be that So You Think proves the better over 1m2f and Workforce comes out on top over 1m4f – those are certainly the distance preferences they have shown to date, although both are flexible.

Or perhaps So You Think could make history by winning a 1m4f feature race in Europe like the King George or Arc?

Either way it promises to be both informative and, more importantly, incredibly exciting.

Sarafina is another star who looks set to make a name for herself on the middle-distance scene this year, although she is unlikely to run up against the big two until the Arc.

She was possibly unlucky in the 2010 Arc, where she was shuffled back to last before staying on to take third behind Workforce and she is likely to go well again this time round.

In the Prix Corrida on Monday she looked at least as good as ever, cruising past her rivals to score stylishly by two lengths from recent Group 3 winner Announce in a course record time.

The win was worthan RPR of 125+. Factor in a fillies allowance and a possibility of further improvement and she can mix it with the colts again this term. Most of them anyway.

TOP OF THE CLASS: Workforce 127+ Sir Michael Stoute (GB) (Brigadier Gerard Stakes, Sandown, 1m2f7y, May 26)

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2011-May-31, 01:03 PM

Great read thanks for posting  Thumb Up

'It might be that So You Think proves the better over 1m2f and Workforce comes out on top over 1m4f – those are certainly the distance preferences they have shown to date, although both are flexible.'

Have to imagine this will be the case.
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2011-Jun-09, 11:58 AM

Hard to judge if SYT prefers the 2000m, hasn't run over 2400m from memory? at the end of his 2000m races he looks like he could go another 2 furlongs..
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2011-Jun-09, 02:33 PM

He pulled worse than any horse I have seen in a Melbourne Cup and was the winner until the 150m.

I reckon 2400m might suit him even more now that they seem to have him pulling far less. I get the feeling that not having to contend with strong 1400m-1600m races as a lead up to his pet distance will prove to be a godsend to this horse.

He MIGHT just be too good for them.
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2011-Jun-09, 03:42 PM

Unbelieveable win by Frenchy Poir Moi (owned by Gillard) in the Derby.  SYT will know this horse is in the race and will
be giving a lot of weight.  The challengers come. 
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