Racehorse TALK

Look through the history of the Arc and the SR of 3yo's winning is ridiculously high as well.

They have to be outstanding 3yos to win the Arc, Pour Moi will have to improve about 10 lengths between now and October. Andre Fabre is the man to do it though.

Northern hemisphere 3 year olds have a huge advantage at weight-for-age in the Arc because by the time
the race comes around, they're damned near 4.  This explains the extraordinary number of 3 year olds to win
the Arc rather than how few of our youngsters win the Cox Plate. 
I don't think Pour Moi needs to improve 10 lengths to win the Arc. 

I agree FZ - unless Europe manages to generate an oustanding 3yo in 8 out of every 10 years they seem to get in pretty light!

What is the weight difference at that time of year?

123 lbs  55.91 3yo colts

131 lbs  59.55 4yo+ males

The same scale as when Shootoff was beaten in the Doomben Cup at a similar time of the racing year. Scenic Shot 59 Shootoff 55.5

Pour Moi wil need to improve about 10 lengths to beat So You Think.

He'll only need to improve about 2 lengths to beat the rest.

Triples is probably not around but in the first from the UK tonight no.4  Hazaz is out of a mare called Treble Seven.

The more I look at the Coral-Eclipse the more I question his being favourite. I guess the race is really going to see whether UK racers assess him as good or great. He's one of our greats but at this stage needs win here to be great.

No question the 2000m is better for him as Workforce and Snow Fairy being first up should only help him.

Just looks to me that Workforce either keeps him within his sights should it be less than solid tempo or sits back if it's solidly run race.

If SYT leads & can do so comfortably in run then I'll think he's some chance - if something takes him to set a pace then I don't like his chances.

There's two X factors - one is the the level to which you accept that fitness cost him last start & the other is Snow Fairy.

Workforce isn't 1st up, he won 1st up in the Brigadier Gerard.

Correct - was referring to SF.

Gawd, we've gotta put up with David Raphael's insufferable inanity at Sandown tonight.

He adds nothing to the coverage in terms of knowledge or expertise.

Just widens the hole in the ozone layer with his clouds of verbal methane.

Flying him all over the world to these meetings must rank in terms of wanton extravagance as right up there with TVN doing the same with Bruce Clark.

Why don't they just rely on the GB coverage/commentators?

Confront should lead at a solid tempo, So You Think sitting just off him. Workforce a few lengths behind him. Workforce will attempt to take up the running around 800m from home hoping to expose any stamina limitations in So You Think.

Hopefully So You Think can blow him away in the final furlong.

Super race.

From the Racing Post live blog...

2:47pm
Head to head
Head to heads don't come much bigger than this one.

Press room opinion seems squarely in the Workforce camp, but it's influenced no doubt by the prices. Nobody can satisfactorily explain why Workforce isn't favourite.

2:45pm
Early show
Can't see any evens So You Think on track. He's 10-11 at best.

2:42pm
She's fancied
Robin Trevor Jones, who has taken Snow Fairy, and before her Ouija Board, all over the world, is expecting a big run from her and before racing was scouring the boards for some of the advertised 10-1 or 11-1, which at the time was elusive.

I have disgracefully taken $11 Snow Fairy.

I feel ashamed of myself.

But I will learn to live with my shame.