Racehorse TALK

You mean Euroa Steve.

I have now realised that the Hayes operation is still called Lyndsay Park Racing

   

Euroa should be fine for him.
As long as David stays at a distance 
If he is happy, wins BMW, why not do a Peter Pan and win next years cup, carrying 57 kgs.
I wonder who will ride him in Aus.?

He won't get less weight than this year.

Glad to see my judgement of this stallion lines up with a few others....

2011 World Rankings: Americain Top Stayer
The 2011 World Thoroughbred Rankings also confirmed the Gr1 Melbourne Cup as the world’s premier staying race. For the 2nd successive year, the highest-rated performance in a race greater than 2700m was produced in the Melbourne Cup, with 7YO entire Americain (Lomitas-Danedrop, by Danehill) rated at 123 for finishing 4th with 58kg, just 1.25-lengths behind the winning 5YO entire Dunaden (Nicobar-La Marlia, by Kaldounevees) who carried 54.5kg under the handicap conditions of the race. Americain's performance was rated superior to 3YO colt Orfevre (Stay Gold-Oriental Art, by Mejiro Mc Queen) who rate 122 in winning the Japanese St Leger, 3YO colt Masked Marvel (Montjeu-Waldmark, by Mark Of Esteem) on 121 for winning the English St Leger & 5YO entire Fame And Glory (Montjeu-Gryada, by Shirley Heights) also on 121 for his victory in the Ascot Gold Cup. Australia’s representative on the WTR Committee Greg Carpenter noted: “In winning the Melbourne Cup, Dunaden achieved a rating of 118, the 5th best performance in a staying race in 2011. The reason Americain rated considerably higher than Dunaden is because he conceded his rival 3.5kg, which equates to about 6-lengths over 3200m. In finishing only 1.25-lengths from Dunaden, Americain ran to a considerably higher rating & produced one of the best staying performances on the world stage in the last decade.” Only champion mare Makybe Diva (Desert King-Tugela, by Riverman) has achieved a higher rating in a staying race, when she was assigned 124 for carrying 58kg to victory in winning the Melbourne Cup for an historic 3rd time in 2005. Japanese champion Deep Impact also achieved a rating of 123 in winning the 2006 Tenno Sho (Spring) at 3200m. (Jan 12

Would it not be nice if ocassionally they got the breeding right!!!Last time I looked Americains dad was not Lomitas.

The pedigree they have there for Americain is in fact the pedigree of the Arc winner Danedream. 

Has he really be transferred to Gai Waterhouse ??

I doubt it. Somebody is just starting a rumor on twitter.

David Hayes did nothing wrong with him in the autumn. The owners stuffed up trying to win a stallion making race.

I think it's fairly obvious that the horse has been inclined to be overrated, probably due to looks.

But a close look at the subsequent record of recent Melbourne Cup winners tells a different story.

Dunaden, best subsequent win        Hong Kong Vase
Americain, best subsequent win.     Sandown Classic
Shocking , best subsequent win.     Australian Cup
Viewed, best subsequent win.        Caulfield. Cup
Efficient, best subsequent win.       Turnbull Stakes

Cheers

who will be the rider in the cup .  id like williams on it

Isn't Mosse coming back for the cup.?

They said after the last time that Mosse would not ride him again