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Rumpelstiltskin
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Original Post 2011-Aug-17, 11:09 AM

Im reading alot lately about riders in trouble, drugs, alcohol, financial problems, attitude ect ect. Its great to read the comeback stories like C Reith has just presented us with but i would really like to know where racing was when C R was in his darkest moments. Was there support from racing and regular contact with him to see how he was travelling. Are the guys out at the moment like Ganderton, Adams, B Poulos, Elissa ect been offered any guidance or help.
Im sure the media will get on if these guys come back and change their ways but im interested to know if an industry that rides off these guys backs is really there for them when the chips are down.
Many will say these blokes who make the wrong choices dont deserve any help but i beg to differ with Brown, J Cassidy, Bowman, Moses ect ect past and present top riders all falling off the merry go round at times of their careers then bouncing back to the top.
Gandertons a classic with a real bad attitude it seems but maybee with help he can turn around, who knows if he has other issues.  what

The support the footballers ect get is enormous, is racing offering and providing the same support  what 
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2011-Aug-17, 01:36 PM

I am pretty sure all these things are available for them, I constantly read that there are counseling services available. Like all of us they have to want to be helped.
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2011-Aug-18, 05:39 PM

funny how the general public thinks there should be help(free) for all the High Profile and wealthiest sports people, if a Trainer has the same problems no one thinks they shopuld get help provided free by the industry( at least no one jumps up and down and demands/expects it, what about Strappers who are usually faceless people who can easily be replaced(or so the public thinks because they don't know any of them) same in the NRL/AFL etc, why does everyone bleat about helping a 17 year old who probably owns 3 blocks of flats?? when a strapper on not much more than the dole who works 24/7 looking after the horses is all on his/her own??

Good Strappers are a lot harder to find than a good Jockey is and a lot harder to replace than a Jockey,

I am not against helping young riders or Footballers who get them selves in the shit because they have too much money and too many friends but lets put it in perspective,
if they need help......
First they have to acknowledge it or no one can help them
Second it is having too much money what has caused it so spend some of it on doing the right thing and get help for them selves....if they have run out of money then by all means help them.....any help should be means tested though
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2011-Aug-18, 07:01 PM

Spot on Jim

What about the plumber, who falls down a shaft, or the electrician who gets electrocuted, or the painter who falls off a ladder who might suffer life-ending work injuries or even die. Although they maybe entitled to financial relief or compensation for death ( as are jockeys ) there are few, or any, functions held at the local RSL or the plumbers union headquarters to raise money for them or their family.
Why are jockeys any different from those unfortunates ?
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2011-Aug-19, 01:53 PM

Another Industry that is treated like Koala Bears(protected Species) are the Farmers, every time they bleat there are handouts/telethons/farm Aid etc, sure it is tough when your business goes bad but it happens to plenty of business every day of the week and no one cares but when it happens to farmers and a lot of it is their own fault for the way they have mismanaged the land for a hundred years they get help, I feel sorry for them and not against them getting assistance but why are they so protected??
When if you have any other business that goes broke it is Just as tragic for your family but no one cares

Just seems to me that there are a few sections of society that get extra special treatment

even Mining Companies having to pay their fair share of Tax(considering that we own the mineral rights) and a lot of Battlers side with them, beats me??

What do they say "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" ie, the ones who can get their message out there ( which are usually the ones that can command the money/publicity) get 90% of the help

Another well placed saying, "God helps those who help themselves and Christ help those who can't"

I do not mean to denigrate Jockeys/Farmers/Footballers etc just there is a lot of tragedy out there both Emotional/Physical as well as Financial and I would like to see other sections of society get as much public sympathy when things go wrong as the aforementioned sections do
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2011-Aug-19, 06:13 PM

Jim,

You appear to have 2 bob each way in your opinions above. Some people get more help than others and each have their reasons. If you wanna treat all as equal/same--the two versions of that was old Russia/China.

In regards to Farmers ---almost all are very hard working people---and when help is needed due to long term drought or floods etc.. that is deserved. I have not met any bad country people and have spent many times in the bush both work and pleasure---go out to places like Tottenham (close to the middle of NSW) and you will get the gist of what I'm saying.

Anyhow, just an opinion--not trying to  you.    biggrin

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2011-Aug-20, 07:55 AM

I do not mean to denigrate Jockeys/Farmers/Footballers etc just there is a lot of tragedy out there both Emotional/Physical as well as Financial and I would like to see other sections of society get as much public sympathy when things go wrong as the aforementioned sections do

fair call Jim 
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2011-Oct-18, 08:12 PM

Just to clarify a couple of things re this post. I am in a very difficult position at the moment in regard to a racing fall.
Firstly, Jockeys pay a percentage of their riding fee to the association. So any help is not just given. The Jockeys trust is
supported by each and every jockeys contributions whether they are Joe Blogs or a star of the turf.
The trust is put in place to provide medical and phycological help if the need be and to contribute to these services being available.
I agree other industries dont have this in place, as the plumber etc,,, but jockeys are not treated as "special" it is something
that has been put in place from many hard working and charitable people. Jockeys pay the way for this to be put in place.
I totally understand where some people dont agree with the support as I have a father with a brain tumour and little is done about that
and now I have a paraplegic husband who has contributed to the fund for many years and the fact that our children have access to some
emotional support is a blessing, thanks to all jockeys giving some of their wages to the trust.
I have seen first hand the tragedy in many hospitals and rehab places, not just jockeys like the gang green man who was losing his body slowly
to Jim Stynes. All I can say is please dont bag what jockeys and the association is putting in place to help families in need, perhaps other
industries should do the same.
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2011-Oct-19, 08:38 AM

Just to clarify a couple of things re this post. I am in a very difficult position at the moment in regard to a racing fall.
Firstly, Jockeys pay a percentage of their riding fee to the association. So any help is not just given. The Jockeys trust is
supported by each and every jockeys contributions whether they are Joe Blogs or a star of the turf.
The trust is put in place to provide medical and phycological help if the need be and to contribute to these services being available.
I agree other industries dont have this in place, as the plumber etc,,, but jockeys are not treated as "special" it is something
that has been put in place from many hard working and charitable people. Jockeys pay the way for this to be put in place.
I totally understand where some people dont agree with the support as I have a father with a brain tumour and little is done about that
and now I have a paraplegic husband who has contributed to the fund for many years and the fact that our children have access to some
emotional support is a blessing, thanks to all jockeys giving some of their wages to the trust.
I have seen first hand the tragedy in many hospitals and rehab places, not just jockeys like the gang green man who was losing his body slowly
to Jim Stynes. All I can say is please dont bag what jockeys and the association is putting in place to help families in need, perhaps other
industries should do the same.


 Well said
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2011-Oct-19, 08:36 PM

Ta Big Wheel x
I have never done a fund raiser
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