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Original Post 2011-Sep-27, 03:47 PM

People have been talking about the New World Order for some time now.

The concept is that one day there will be One Government ruling over the World.
Is this really possible?  Shrug  chin

This thread will have a look at some of the facts, theories, conspiraces that have been purported by people around the world.
Believe it or not, it is an interesting topic & some of the background to this idea is factual but there is also a lot of theories about the topic.
Conspiracy theories suggest that it is happening right now!!

Let's have a look at the information & then deduct for yourselves if this really is a possibility or is it mere folly or dreams of people with a lot of imagination.  wacko

Personally I have an open mind that anything is a possibility but I'm not currently a believer or a disbeliever as I don't know enough about the subject to have a firm view. Let's have a look at the subject & discover what is (if anything) is really going on.

I guess it starts with this mob that I have heard about, the Illuminati.
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Symbol of the ILLUMINATI




Illuminati (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, "enlightened") is a name given to several groups, both real (historical) and fictitious. Historically the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776.
The Illuminati is the oldest term commonly used to refer to the 13 bloodline families (and their offshoots) that make up a major portion of this controlling elite. Most members of the Illuminati are also members in the highest ranks of numerous secretive and occult societies which in many cases extend straight back into the ancient world.

Since the publication of Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson's postmodern science fiction work The Illuminatus! Trilogy (1975-7) the name has been used to refer to a purported conspiratorial organization that masterminds events and controls world affairs through governments and corporations to establish a New World Order. In this context the Illuminati are usually represented as a modern version or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati.

History
The movement was founded on May 1, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria) as the Order of the Illuminati, with an initial membership of five, by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830), who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt. It was made up of freethinkers as an offshoot of the Enlightenment and seems to have been modeled on the Freemasons. The Illuminati's members took a vow of secrecy and pledged obedience to their superiors. Members were divided into three main classes, each with several degrees, and many Illuminati chapters drew membership from existing Masonic lodges.

Originally Weishaupt had planned the order to be named the "Perfectibilists".[1] The group has also been called the Bavarian Illuminati and its ideology has been called "Illuminism". Many influential intellectuals and progressive politicians counted themselves as members, including Ferdinand of Brunswick and the diplomat Xavier von Zwack, the second-in-command of the order. The order had branches in most European countries: it reportedly had around 2,000 members over the span of ten years. It attracted literary men such as Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and Johann Gottfried Herder and the reigning dukes of Gotha and Weimar.

In 1777 Karl Theodor became ruler of Bavaria. He was a proponent of Enlightened Despotism and his government banned all secret societies including the Illuminati. Internal rupture and panic over succession preceded its downfall, which was affected by the Secular Edict made by the Bavarian government. The March 2, 1785 edict "seems to have been deathblow to the Illuminati in Bavaria." Weishaupt had fled and documents and internal correspondences, seized in 1786 and 1787, were subsequently published by the government in 1787. Von Zwack's home was searched to disclose much of the group's literature.

Between 1797 and 1798 Augustin Barruel's Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism and John Robison's Proofs of a Conspiracy both publicized the theory that the Illuminati had survived and represented an ongoing international conspiracy, including the claim that it was behind the French Revolution. Both books proved to be very popular, spurring reprints and paraphrases by others[7] (a prime example is Proofs of the Real Existence, and Dangerous Tendency, Of Illuminism by Reverend Seth Payson, published in 1802).[8] Some response was critical, such as Jean-Joseph Mounier's On the Influence Attributed to Philosophers, Free-Masons, and to the Illuminati on the Revolution of France.[citation needed]

Robison and Barruel's works made their way to the United States. Across New England, Reverend Jedidiah Morse and others sermonized against the Illuminati, their sermons were printed, and the matter followed in newspapers. The concern died down in the first decade of the 1800s, though had some revival during the Anti-Masonic movement of the 1820s and 30s.

In addition to the supposed shadowy and secret organization, several modern fraternal groups claim to be the "heirs" of the Bavarian Illuminati and have openly used the name "Illuminati" in founding their own rites. Some, such as the multiple groups that call themselves by some variation on "The Illuminati Order" , use the name directly in the name of their organization, while others, such as the Ordo Templi Orientis, use the name as a grade of initiation within their organization.

Interest in the Illuminati and the assertions that it exists today began after the publication of The Illuminatus! Trilogy,[11] a postmodern science fiction work whose plot prominently featured an Illuminati plot to rule the world. Writers such as Mark Dice,[12] David Icke, Texe Marrs, Ryan Burke, Jüri Lina and Morgan Gricar have argued that the Bavarian Illuminati survived, possibly to this day. Many of these theories propose that world events are being controlled and manipulated by a secret society calling itself the Illuminati.[13][14] Conspiracy theorists have claimed that many notable people were or are members of the Illuminati. Presidents of the United States are a common target for such claims.

A key figure in the conspiracy theory movement, Myron Fagan, devoted his latter years to finding evidence that a variety of historical events from Waterloo, The French Revolution, President John F. Kennedy's assassination and an alleged communist plot to hasten the New World Order by infiltrating the Hollywood film industry, were all orchestrated by the Illuminati.
       
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2011-Sep-27, 04:42 PM

The U.S One Dollar Bill

Is it really a symbolic note depicting the establishment, rise & completion of the New World Order?

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2011-Sep-27, 04:49 PM

Here are some descriptions of the symbolism of the U.S bank note.
Seems to infer the 'Freemasons' (another secret cult) are very much inter-twined with the New World Order. Also some references to the occult (Satan).  Undecided




This is the Great Seal of the United States of America. It was designed by the Freemasons and contains a mass of symbolism that the profane (non masons) are not to understand. This article will once and for all prove that the Seal is a Masonic design. Have you ever asked the question “Why is there a Pyramid on our $1 note?” The religion of Freemasonry and some of it's mysteries have descended from ancient Babylon whose mysteries descended from ancient Egypt. The Great Pyramid has of old been a fascination of Freemasons. It is a pagan temple of Satan worship. Aleister Crowley, Freemason and chief Satanist of the 20th Century performed a satanic ritual in the Kings Chamber. The Masonic founded and controlled cults of the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons have also adored the Great Pyramid.

First of all I will interpret the Latin words on the seal. 'Annuit Coeptis' means 'Announcing The Birth Of' and 'Novus Ordo Seclorum' means 'New World Order'. So therefore it says 'Announcing the birth of the New World Order'. The date in roman numerals is 1776, the year the modern Illuminati was formed and also the year of American independence. The Latin 'E Pluribus Unum' means 'One out of many' which is the foundation of the New World Order's plan to unify the world's governments, religions and money systems into one so the world can be controlled.

The capstone has not come down on the Pyramid. This means that the plan is not complete. Only when the New World Order is established upon all nations and the world leader is enthroned the plan will be complete. On the obverse is an eagle whose dexter wing has thirty-two feathers, the number of ordinary degrees in Scottish Rite Freemasonry. The sinister wing has thirty-three feathers, the additional feather corresponding to the Thirty-third Degree of the Scottish Rite conferred for outstanding Masonic service. The tail feathers number nine, the number of degrees in the Chapter, Council, and Commandery of the York Rite of Freemasonry. Notice the stars above the eagle's head forms a hexagram the most evil of all witchcraft symbols.


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2011-Sep-27, 04:59 PM

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2011-Sep-27, 05:09 PM

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2011-Sep-27, 06:57 PM

Winner can explain all this.  He is the Secretary. 
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2011-Sep-27, 07:02 PM

Freemasons (Secret Society) seems to be mentioned quite a bit so here's a blurb about the Freemasons.


Freemasonry (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
Freemasonry is a fraternal organisation that arose from obscure origins in the late 16th to early 17th century. Freemasonry now exists in various forms all over the world, with a membership estimated at around six million, including approximately 150,000 under the jurisdictions of the Grand Lodge of Scotland and Grand Lodge of Ireland, over a quarter of a million under the jurisdiction of the United Grand Lodge of England and just under two million in the United States.[

The fraternity is administratively organised into independent Grand Lodges or sometimes Orients, each of which governs its own jurisdiction, which consists of subordinate (or constituent) Lodges. The various Grand Lodges recognise each other, or not, based upon adherence to landmarks (a Grand Lodge will usually deem other Grand Lodges who share common landmarks to be regular, and those that do not to be "irregular" or "clandestine").

There are also appendant bodies, which are organisations related to the main branch of Freemasonry, but with their own independent administration.

The first Grand Lodge, the Grand Lodge of England (GLE), was founded on 24 June 1717, when four existing London Lodges met for a joint dinner. This rapidly expanded into a regulatory body, which most English Lodges joined. However, a few lodges resented some of the modernisations that GLE endorsed, such as the creation of the Third Degree, and formed a rival Grand Lodge on 17 July 1751, which they called the "Antient Grand Lodge of England." The two competing Grand Lodges vied for supremacy – the "Moderns" (GLE) and the "Antients" (or "Ancients") – until they united on 25 November 1813 to form the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE).

The Grand Lodge of Ireland and The Grand Lodge of Scotland were formed in 1725 and 1736 respectively. Freemasonry was exported to the British Colonies in North America by the 1730s – with both the "Antients" and the "Moderns" (as well as the Grand Lodges of Ireland and Scotland) chartering offspring, or "daughter," Lodges, and organising various Provincial Grand Lodges. After the American Revolution, independent U.S. Grand Lodges formed themselves within each state. Some thought was briefly given to organising an over-arching "Grand Lodge of the United States," with George Washington (who was a member of a Virginian lodge) as the first Grand Master, but the idea was short-lived. The various state Grand Lodges did not wish to diminish their own authority by agreeing to such a body.

While Freemasonry has often been called a "secret society," Freemasons themselves argue that it is more correct to say that it is an esoteric society, in that certain aspects are private. The most common phrasing is that Freemasonry has, in the 21st century, become less a secret society and more of a "society with secrets." The private aspects of modern Freemasonry are the modes of recognition amongst members and particular elements within the ritual. Despite the organisation's great diversity, Freemasonry's central preoccupations remain charitable work within a local or wider community, moral uprightness (in most cases requiring a belief in a supreme being) as well as the development and maintenance of fraternal friendship, as James Anderson's Constitutions originally urged amongst brethren.

Masons conduct their meetings using a ritualised format. There is no single Masonic ritual, and each jurisdiction is free to set (or not set) its own ritual. However, there are similarities that exist among jurisdictions. For example, all Masonic ritual makes use of the architectural symbolism of the tools of the medieval operative stonemason. Freemasons, as speculative masons (meaning philosophical building rather than actual building), use this symbolism to teach moral and ethical lessons of the principles of "Brotherly Love, Relief, and Truth;" or as related in France, "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity."

Two of the principal symbolic tools always found in a Lodge are the square and compasses. Some Lodges and rituals explain these tools as lessons in conduct: for example, that Masons should "square their actions by the square of virtue" and to learn to "circumscribe their desires and keep their passions within due bounds toward all mankind." However, as Freemasonry is non-dogmatic, there is no general interpretation for these tools (or any Masonic emblem) that is used by Freemasonry as a whole.

These moral lessons are communicated in performance of allegorical ritual. A candidate progresses through degrees gaining knowledge and understanding of himself, his relationship with others and his relationship with the Supreme Being (per his own interpretation). While the philosophical aspects of Freemasonry tend to be discussed in Lodges of Instruction or Research, and sometimes informal groups, Freemasons, and others, frequently publish, with varying degrees of competence, studies that are available to the public. Any mason may speculate on the symbols and purpose of Freemasonry, and indeed all masons are required to some extent to speculate on masonic meaning as a condition of advancing through the degrees.

The Supreme Being and the Volume of Sacred Law
Candidates for regular Freemasonry are required to declare a belief in a Supreme Being. However, the candidate is not asked to expand on, or explain, his interpretation of Supreme Being. The discussion of politics and religion is forbidden within a Masonic Lodge, in part so a Mason will not be placed in the situation of having to justify his personal interpretation. Thus, reference to the Supreme Being can mean the Christian Trinity to a Christian Mason, Allah to a Muslim Mason, Para Brahman to a Hindu Mason, etc. While most Freemasons would take the view that the term Supreme Being equates to God, others may hold a more complex or philosophical interpretation of the term.

In the ritual, the Supreme Being is referred to as the Great Architect of the Universe, which alludes to the use of architectural symbolism within Freemasonry.


Symbol of Freemasons

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2011-Sep-27, 07:38 PM

Illuminati Members and the Illuminati in this context refers to all of the secret societies and global elitist clubs such as The Illuminati, The Freemasons, Skull and Bones, the Brotherhood, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Roundtable Group, Bilderberg Group, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Power Elite, the Bohemian Club, the Young Presidents Organization and dozens of other such organizations.

Although most of these secret societies are not so secret, what goes on inside them is kept secret. Many high level Illuminati members are also members of the most elite organization of them all: The Brotherhood. The Brotherhood keeps its very existence secret. The majority of the world’s billionaires are members of this “secret” secret society.

These organizations were organized hundreds even thousands of years ago for the purpose of networking amongst royal families, religious leaders and heads of industry. Throughout history, wealthy elite families only married members of other wealthy elite families.

These families (generally 17) are still in charge of society today through many fronts. High level government officials, CEO’s of major multi-national conglomerate corporations, heads of colleges, many religious leaders, military generals, titans of industry are all chosen and put in place by the specific design of Illuminati members.

The reach of these people stretches through all areas of society. From the production of food and basic necessities to commodities, to housing, government, medicine, to all industrial needs and banking institutions, to entertainment; this small group of people pull the strings to orchestrate world affairs to their liking.

Their main goal is to create a one world government with a slavery class to support them. Illuminati members want to reduce the global population to 500 million and lower the standards of living in all civilized nations.

The effects of this one world government are becoming more and more apparent. We see the pooling of nations via the United Nations. For example, the European Union, the upcoming North American Union, and the Asian Union and African Union are all coming to fruition through a shrewd design to divide and rule. Presidents of countries are picked months in advance. Citizens are made to believe that they have voting power, when in fact democracy is just an illusion.

Evidence of Illuminati or “illuminated ones” or “all knowing ones” is apparent throughout society. The pyramid and single eye on the US one dollar bill is a prime example of their symbolism. The single eye or “all seeing eye” can be found everywhere in society especially in marketing and entertainment.
Much knowledge is available and understood about Illuminati members, however the vast majority of the population is completely unaware of what is going on.


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2011-Sep-27, 08:01 PM

Goldman Sacchs - the massive junk debt getting A grade ratings scam that is the core of the ongoing GFC problems still has very few if any people jailed for this fraud.

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2011-Sep-27, 08:08 PM

So what's the gist of it?
Well conspiracy theorists claim that the Illuminati are well & truly in control of the US Govt & key politicians are members who play their part in creating the New World Order. Therefore the Illuminati run the U.S from behind the scenes.
They have complete control of the economy.
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2011-Sep-27, 08:12 PM

Fours...I thought of you as soon as I saw el zoro's original post. Your life certainly must be interesting


el zoro for a secrete society the Freemasons must be slipping.

They hold a secrete   lol  meeting once a month about 1km up the road from my home. There is big sign out the front new members always welcome..What "self-respecting" secrete society does that? lol   lol
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2011-Sep-27, 08:23 PM

Well Winner,

Lets just say that I don't sit around watching paint dry or ice melt....


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2011-Sep-27, 08:26 PM

From the Freemason post.....

While Freemasonry has often been called a "secret society," Freemasons themselves argue that it is more correct to say that it is an esoteric society, in that certain aspects are private. The most common phrasing is that Freemasonry has, in the 21st century, become less a secret society and more of a "society with secrets."
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2011-Sep-27, 08:28 PM

So what's the gist of it?
Well conspiracy theorists claim that the Illuminati are well & truly in control of the US Govt & key politicians are members who play their part in creating the New World Order. Therefore the Illuminati run the U.S from behind the scenes.
They have complete control of the economy.
shocked    


They seem to be doing a pretty shit job of it.....
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2011-Sep-27, 08:50 PM

Chalky,

Maybe thats the intention....

For change to occur  drama is necessary normally.

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