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Original Post 2011-Oct-03, 02:11 PM

Race 4 - 1:20PM - PFD Food Services Schillaci Stakes - 1000 METRES
Of $200,000.1st $120,000, 2nd $36,000, 3rd $18,000, 4th $9,000, 5th $5,000, 6th $4,000, 7th $4,000, 8th $4,000 GROUP 2 Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Maidens at time of entry are ineligible, Apprentices cannot claim. Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM
No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Hcp Rating
1 28X2382430 MORGAN DOLLAR Stuart Gower Chris Symons 3 58.5kg 89
2 31X21610X5 STIRLING GROVE Richard Jolly Damien Oliver 2 58.5kg 95
3 X1524X05X4 EIGHT BILLS Gary Portelli Mark Zahra 9 58.5kg 92
4 X1231330X1 TASOS Brett Partelle Dwayne Dunn 4 58.5kg 72
5 18X RA IKANE Michael Kent Brad Rawiller 1 58.5kg 62
6 111X11111X BLACK CAVIAR Peter G Moody Luke Nolen 5 56.5kg 128
7 1124X1148 KULGRINDA Peter G Moody Craig Newitt 6 56.5kg 99
8 X1X16213X5 PLATINUM SKYE Gary Portelli Nash Rawiller 7 56.5kg 91
9 111120X341 KARUTA QUEEN Neville Layt Tommy Berry 8 51kg 94
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2011-Oct-03, 02:58 PM

Black Caviar's a big chance here.

Looks suited by the WFA conditions here seeing she'd be giving the second top weight 17kg in a handicap.  rolleyes
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2011-Oct-03, 03:01 PM

Black Caviar needs further, MORGAN DOLLAR whip
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2011-Oct-03, 07:47 PM

I think the 955M at MV on the Friday night will probably be a stronger field.

The BLACK CAVIAR connections have obviously got scared and gone the softer option...
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2011-Oct-03, 08:16 PM

Looking forward to seeing Karuta for the first time in the flesh, if she goes for this option
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2011-Oct-04, 12:20 AM

I think the 955M at MV on the Friday night will probably be a stronger field.

The BLACK CAVIAR connections have obviously got scared and gone the softer option...


What is the fastest time in that series ?

This Friday nights race is a 76 rated race and given a good track they will get close to the time.

Now if these horses can run between 55 and 56 seconds with 55kgs and they are rated about 15 lengths inferior to Black Caviar, what time could she run with similar weights ?
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2011-Oct-04, 09:22 AM

I don't know whether I will even watch this race, I reckon there'll be lucky to be 4 other acceptors. What a crock.

And Sydney racing is a joke, I seem to remember a few more (quality) horses lining up against her when she was up North beer beer haha
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2011-Oct-04, 09:37 AM

If you voluntarily don't watch the race then you cant call yourself a racing fan imo.
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2011-Oct-04, 11:37 AM

Love those ratings... lol
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2011-Oct-04, 11:41 AM

Is this a race or a barrier trial?  biggrin
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2011-Oct-04, 12:43 PM

If you voluntarily don't watch the race then you cant call yourself a racing fan imo.


Care to explain...... As much as I love Black Caviar, watching her go around against a pack of not 2nd or 3rd stringers but some plodder's I have no interest in. I'll watch every other race most probably on the day, but this race is a bit of a joke IMO
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2011-Oct-04, 12:55 PM

Care to explain...... As much as I love Black Caviar, watching her go around against a pack of not 2nd or 3rd stringers but some plodder's I have no interest in. I'll watch every other race most probably on the day, but this race is a bit of a joke IMO


Karuta Queen is an excitement machine in her own right and 1000m is perfect for her.

I do not have a lot of respect for those "ratings" In my opinion they even underrate Black Caviar.

Karuta Queen is a genuine group class sprinter and at 1000m is well and truly up to group 1 level IMNSHO. She should have a rating up around the 108+ mark which would still put her about 25+ ratings points behind Black Caviar.
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2011-Oct-04, 05:36 PM

what is the point from a racing point of view of paying for a track Gallop?? it cannot by any stretch of the imagination be called a "Race" I tend to agree with Rock re the interest in the race but in saying that I will be watching it as she is a Champ and it ain't her fault they put on Clayton's races for her, is it??
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2011-Oct-04, 05:45 PM

How could you not want to watch history unfold in front of your very eyes..
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2011-Oct-04, 05:56 PM

How could you not want to watch history unfold in front of your very eyes..


Historical events aren't something that are planned.

This is "contrived" history. I can just hear Bruce Mc now and his endless superlatives "we might be witnessing history here".

Good luck to the owners. They will get a squillion for the offspring  Thumb Up

In the meantime, I still ask the question. Why wasn't she up against Sepoy in the Group 1 last Friday night? That was the logical event for her to race in. I hope the MRC are looking after Neville Layt OK. Without Karuta Queen running this race would descend into farce.
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