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triple7
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Original Post 2011-Oct-24, 05:37 PM

I having been playing around with some First 4 methods, and wondered if any have any particular approaches / methods that they prefer and might like to share.

DD shared with us some yrs ago an approach of ABC for trifectas that can be used for F4's, selecting your A B and C runners and then taking a few tickets where an A or B runner must win, and a A runner must run 1, 2, 3 or 4 (if taking 4 tickets). The A runner/s are those you are confident could win or should run a place, B runner/s those you consider a danger / chance, C runners those you expect / need to fill the holes. If your A runners don't fill a hole you have a dead combination. This explanation will require further detail.

Any other approaches / methods that others like to use / find helpful?



I have attached as a pdf a copy of the worksheet that I use based on the approach outlined by DD in this thread which might be helpful for anyone interested.

If anyone has trouble with a download please let me know or alternativly email me at - thesevens777@hotmail.com and I shall send you a copy.


NB. This is the method that I use more often than not, but can be modified to suit (more or less A B or C selections), and is to act as a guide only.


* ABC First 4 worksheet.pdf (37.06 KB - downloaded 211 times.)
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2012-Jan-07, 08:58 PM

Wasn't a difficult first four, PS.

An email I received this morning suggested:

10 - 9 - 4 from 2 - 5 - 6

The recommended strategy of 2-2-2 gets 25% for just $51.  Good strategy that.  Great Idea

As the divvies indicate, those canny Qlders didn't miss it.  nowink
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2012-Mar-17, 12:48 PM

With a first four jackpot on the Guineas, am taking

A) Manawanui, Mosheen
B) Wild and Proud, Ocean Park, Laser Hawk
C) Galah, Strike the Stars, Moment of Change
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2012-Mar-17, 04:03 PM

I took one today after seeing CE's post and managed to snag the result for 5% 

Mind you I had to check the combinations to make sure I got it  shy
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2012-Mar-31, 10:50 PM

I took one today after seeing CE's post and managed to snag the result for 5% 

Mind you I had to check the combinations to make sure I got it  shy


Should have done the same today as I thought I had a small slice of the Guineas today ....... Only to work out I'd botched one of the tickets  slaphead
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2012-Apr-01, 10:31 AM

Hehehe - I got a bit of it mate. Once you put them on regularly it will become like clockwork.

Ambidexter finishing ahead of one of the Kiwi's may have boosted the divy a little more.
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2012-Apr-01, 10:36 AM

I think Ron Dufficy tipped the tri straight in his on-course mail.  Thumb Up
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2012-Apr-01, 05:02 PM

Hehehe - I got a bit of it mate. Once you put them on regularly it will become like clockwork.

Ambidexter finishing ahead of one of the Kiwi's may have boosted the divy a little more.


Cal - I missed putting the 'Cs' in for 2nd on the 1st ticket  shy  bash

I was only guessing on % so didn't pick up on my error until after the event  rolleyes
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2012-Apr-17, 01:09 PM

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2012-Apr-17, 01:13 PM

PS, not sure if I can give guidance, knowing the result.

IFFF I had 7 chances, I'd probably break them down 2 - 3 - 2.

That means either of A must run 1, 2 or 3.  The 2nd line horses can WIN.

The 2-3-2 breakdown has 456 combos.
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2012-Apr-17, 01:17 PM

Thanks DD but I only use the Alts in the case of a late scratching, so selections in this race were six, but computer acting completely blind usually picks somewhere between five and eight selections. Only some do I get.
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2012-Apr-23, 01:51 PM

In the Doncaster I could not work out how No 16 seemed to go missing from some of the computer displays and eventually found that somehow No 16 had got scratched inadvertently within my data file; ( a figure 9 was input as 99 unfortunately the code for scratching in a key field ).
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2012-Apr-28, 03:54 PM

This is what does my head in with exotics  wacko

Marked out my selections as per the A,B & C etc for the Sydney Cup, then for some explicable reason I decide to have a roving banker (Drunken Sailor) instead of what I've just written down.

Of course my selections (1st ticket) would have got the cash, only small % but did pay $13k  bash

Know I remember why I gave up taking exotics for so long, too often I 2nd guess myself, something I don't do betting straight out  mad
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2012-Apr-28, 04:58 PM

It's the deep troughs between the peaks that frustrate exotic punters.

The widely-acclaimed A-B-C methodsfor Tris and FFs go some way to making the troughs a little shallower. 

But ya gotta stick with it. Great Idea
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2012-Apr-28, 05:23 PM



But ya gotta stick with it. Great Idea



the stupid thing is I don't know why I changed DD  huh
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2012-Apr-28, 05:27 PM

chin

I considered a try, because of the big FF jackpot on Tatts.  I don't think I would have had OWW.

I backed the 4th dog at $7.8 the place.  Sad  Got shunted in by NIWOT over the rise, but I figure he'd have still run 4th. shy
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