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Original Post 2011-Oct-25, 01:02 PM


On another thread there's been discussion around First Four betting strategies.

I've outlined one approach which I believe has plenty going for it in that it provides good coverage, while minimising outlays.

So we're gonna have a comp on the Cup.

The strategy I use requires us to sort our chances into 3 groups, and our staking is based on this.

Group A: One of these horses must run 1st, 2nd or 3rd - or ya ticket's confetti.

Group B: These horses can WIN, and of course are in the placings, too.

Group C: These horses are in the placings, only.

For the comp, you're asked to select THREE horses in each line.  That's a total of 9.

To comply with the requirements specified for the 3 groups, 3 First Four tickets will be (notionally) placed - don't worry about that aspect for the comp, but it's outlined on the First Four thread if anyone's interested.

There are 1656 combos for a 3 x 3 x 3 ticket using the suggested staking approach.  In the comp, we'll all be outlaying $1656, hypothetically.

So here are the instructions and rules.

1. Competition begins AFTER acceptances on Saturday next.  Entries prior to this time will be invalid.

2. Put your entries in something like this:

A: 3 - 8 - 15

B: 1 - 6 - 12

C: 4 - 9 - 22

No need to put in horse names.

3. Entries CLOSE at NOON AEST on Cup Day.

4.  One entry per forum nick.

5.  Edits are permitted up to closing time, but the time of posting will be the time of your last edit.

6.  Winner will be the entry that gets the First Four - using the staking approach outlined.  If there is NO winner, I get a skinner and we look at something else in the near future.

7.  If more than one entry is successful, the winner will be the first-posted entry.

8.  If you don't like the conditions, then best you don't enter.

What's it worth to the winner?  I'll look in my toy-box and see if there's something to make a punter happy.

Happy to answer queries if there are any.

Otherwise, start studying, and good luck all.

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2011-Oct-30, 11:44 AM

Bringing this up.

Should be a snap for the First Four wizards on this site.

Remember, if there's a TIE, first-posted wins.  Great Idea
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2011-Oct-30, 11:54 AM

Can you do a quick example of how it makes up 1656 combos.   unsure
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2011-Oct-30, 11:55 AM

EZ - see the spreadsheet triple posted in the First 4 Methods thread.
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2011-Oct-30, 11:57 AM

Zoro, as mentioned, all ya do is pick 9 horses:

Line A - ya top 3

Line B - ya next 3

Line C - ya next 3.

Don't worry about the combos, but to get the tri:

One of A must run place; winner must be in Line A or Line B.
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2011-Oct-30, 11:59 AM

I'll start the ball rolling:

A:  1 - 9 - 23

B:  2 - 3 - 17

C: 10 - 14 - 22

Simple as that.
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2011-Oct-30, 05:02 PM

A : 1-3-17
B : 8-18-23
C : 9-10-16
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2011-Oct-30, 05:09 PM

15-17-18
9-1-3
10-8-7
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2011-Oct-30, 05:16 PM

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2011-Oct-30, 05:32 PM

1-3-22
2-10-19
6-13-16

Cheers DD
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2011-Oct-30, 06:41 PM

2-3-8
1-6-23
9-10-22
good luck all thanks DD
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2011-Oct-30, 07:56 PM

A - 1, 3, 10
B - 2, 17, 18
C - 7, 16, 22

Cheers DD  Thumb Up
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2011-Oct-30, 07:59 PM

Thanks DD   Thumb Up

A : 1-9-14
B : 3-10-23
C : 2-17-22
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2011-Oct-30, 08:01 PM

You should be a special at this stunt, Vintage.
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2011-Oct-30, 09:39 PM

1-3-16
2-9-8
12-15-18

Cheers thumbsup
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