Racehorse TALK

El Zoro,

Well there was that TAB operator getting on after the jump!

Fours
Maybe international pooling gets updated later ie first approximates done on incomplete pool information

International pooling? you lost me there. 

But sometimes only the winner div changes & the others are the same approximates?  

This is what happened with MR Quaddie today.

I wrote down (I don't worry about the cents)
2 1469
4 4044
5 20135
8 1493
14 2353

& this is what it changed to after the race.

This was BR Quaddie today.

Only had 2 LIVE in last leg.

I wrote down
2 620
8 573

& this is what it was after the race.

So BR stayed exactly the same whereas MR changed. 
No late scratchings in either race & both were the favs that won the last leg.
So anyone have any idea why sometimes they change & sometimes they don't.

This has happened about 5 times over the last few months but I kept forgetting to post to see if any punters know the rules about this.   

As I have mentioned before, this is the Invisible Bet Facility provided by Tabcorp to Zeljko.

Tasmanian Exotics approximates do not get recorded in the Supertab pool!

El Zoro, in your examples the sub has won. I would say that people have simply taken quaddies BEFORE scratching time and have taken a horse or horses that were withdrawn. After all, betting does open before scratching time so it is still likely that if the sub wins the div will drop.

Scr time is 7.30am Saturday so you're saying they take Quaddies the day before(pre-sale) & they are picking horses in the last leg who are scratchings at 7:30 Saturday. Then the Approxiamates go up but they don't include the pre-sale tickets in the Approxiamates & only add them in after the Final race?

If Rodents theory is correct & they don't include the pre-sale tickets in the approximates the simple question would be 'why not?'.

Surely these pre-sale tickets could be included before they put the approximates up. In this computer age, to me this doesn't make much sense as a software program should be able to do it in seconds. And if it can work it out after the race, then why not before? (my understanding is the Sub is the horse that had most tickets put on it for the last leg & this should be known at start of 1st leg)

But it would make sense that ONLY the sub fav div decreases as all others would already be worked out on the total pool (including the pre-sale $). So the TAB includes the pre-sale $ but not the ticket selections. If that is true then it seems a bit  

 

Can someone tell me how they establish the sub fav?

It was pointed out to me, quite a while ago (& rules may be different now) that the sub fav was the horse who had been selected the most times in the last leg.
The reason it was pointed out to me was that I remember a horse winning that was not fav on the TAB but was still declared the sub. I was originally under the impression that it was the fav for the race but as it happened one day that a non fav was sub then I questioned someone in the TAB & they said it's the horse with the most combinations on it. (generally this will still be the fav but not always but in an open market where 3 horses are with .10 of each other than any of them could be the sub)

Is this right or has this been changed to whoever is the final fav becomes the sub?

Isn't the example here Tattsbet?

Yes I'm only talking about Tattsbet here.

Seems all to make sense if the SUB HAS to be the FINAL FAV on the TAB.
If this is the case, for the Quaddie then the TAB wouldn't know which horse to plonk the pre-sale bets with scr on, until AFTER the final leg. Kinda weird way to do it but as long as it is consistent. All I have to do now, is to research that this is what is actiually happening by posting a few examples.

You learn something new every day!     

My bad.

Maybe I was reading the text about how MR changed and BR stayed the same, and was oblivious to the colours.