Racehorse TALK

Re DD'S point 4.

I thought I was clever getting the Brisbane Quaddie 5.5 times for $100 on Saturday.

Paid $29 in NSW.

Apart from the entertainment value (I work Saturdays and watch the replays later) hardly worth the effort.

Must have been a smarter way to play the 4 races.

b.

I do the Quaddies & have a lot of fun doing them. Had some good collects & also miss collects as well. (you will miss more than you get with Quaddies)
I rarely stand 1 out or have the short odds/favs all in a row as the payout is hardly worth it unless you go multiple times.

My rule is to generally put a KO horse $10+ in EVERY leg, sometimes I have more than 1 $10+ shot, sometimes they are much bigger (see example below)

For the Quaddie to pay good you need a couple $10+ shots to come in. Obviously the bigger the roughie the better as it knocks out a lot of tickets. My combos are not always the same as it depends on field size as well as how many chances you think there are in a race.
A usual pattern for me would be 3x7x5x3. Changing around the combinations depending on the fields. I reckon it's always good to have at least 3 live in last leg & depending on the approx, you can then save with any market movers that you have originally omitted.

Here's an example of my Quaddie & TAB odds & methodology in Sydney on Saturday.
2x4x3x4 as fields were smallish. Cost $24 for 25% of div.
Missed it but very unlucky but gave me a good chance.

1st leg Thought Mossamine was main pick.
3 Run For Levi 12.80
8 Mossamine 3.80 (WON)
2nd leg Only liked 4 horses here in whole field.
2 Lev's choice 7.20
4 Samui Lad 9.90
7 Hard Liquor 4.20 (WON)
8 Nextanix 4.0 (2ND)
3rd leg Thought Yurrapendi & Epona Princess were top picks.
4 Epona Princess 5.50
7 Jester's Girl 21.40
8 Yurrapendi 6.40 (2ND)
4th leg Main picks Rosie's Reward & Reddy Steady Vetti.
2 Mount Verde 76.20 (WON)
3 Rosie's Reward 3.30
7 Ready Steady Vetti 5.20
9 Outstandingly 6.90

Well I missed it in the 3rd leg, 1 Ingham Magic $5.00 KO'd me. The KO horse won the 4th leg which in the end was no good but had Yurrapendi won the 3rd, woulda been looking at a nice return.
Will post one I got up in Melb couple weeks ago. 
     

EZ
Seems I'm not the only one crying

I had

Leg 1 5-7  2nd & 3rd
Leg 2 7-8
Leg 3 1-2-3
Leg 4 2-3-7-12

Bombed out in the first leg with a 2nd & 3rd.

Cal
Sorry for polluting your thread with my disappointment but EZ's post was too close to the bone.

What about the idea of deliberately omitting the favourite in every leg?

Do people think this would be profitable or unprofitable in the long run?

My guess would be the latter.

I susepct the trick may be to attack a quaddie were you believe a favourite or two are vunerable.

b

You sometimes find a race where something is fav but you're not sure how they worked that out. It could easily be 10/1 in the market. I gues maybe the media hypes the horse in the morning. (I don't listen to Sat morning race radio)
I guess it maybe convinces the sheep looking for tips by the 'experts' that they are on a good thing. 

My other suggestion is don't leave out a horse you like just beacause it looks unwanted in betting. Punters can be the worst judges on occassion. 
I've learnt from experience it's better to stick that extra horse in the Quaddie as it's better to get a big Quaddie for 8% than to miss it going for 10%. 

29 October(Derby Day)got a good return but was very unlucky in the 3rd leg.

Had MR Quaddie 5x5x7x3
1st leg 1,5,7,10,16 5Sangster $14(WON)Lots untried at dist so good to put a few in.
2nd leg 1,3,4,7,16  7Hurtle Myrtle $14(WON) blew them away.
3rd leg 2,3,5,6,9,10,13 6Sister Madley $4(WON) just got there in photo.
4th leg 4,11,12 4Woorim $10 (WON) showed his best.

Only got part of div but was well worthwhile as it paid 12K. Had 13Rarefied won the 3rd leg, woulda paid 3x as much.
That's the way Quaddies are, always a lot of 'just missed' stories. 

i work around 3 horses in each leg but will make it a 4 horse race if there is a mares race and a decent size field as those type of races are the usual ones that throw up a roughie.
i wouldn't as a rule just stand out an odds on fav' on it's own(Black Caviar maybe the exception) because there is always the unwritten rule that anything can happen in a horse race.
i generally throw the fav in each leg and surround it with the best roughies.nothing worse than having the first 3 legs up at good prices only to have the fav win the last and you didn't include it.Albert The Fat won the last leg as fav for a substantial payout for me in Bris' one sat' god bless him and was on him again on sat'.
quaddies are my fav' bet type especially with flexi betting on the NSWTAB as you spend what you want.
yes there are ALWAYS just missed stories,i could relate nearly one hundred of them but have a couple of substantial wins as well which keeps me coming back.
if it wasn't for flexi betting,i don't think i would be punting these days.

I suspect my method is different to the majority as I only take a quaddie if I can narrow one leg down to one horse and i take the quaddie as an extra to the good bet i will have on the horse. I am then happy to go wide in the other legs.

For instance the only quaddie I have taken over the carnival was Derby Day and I stood Induna out with 3,6,& 7 horses in the other legs.









 

Bear in regards to your last question.

Yes there was by taking just 1 horse per each leg.

Did it myself and got the quaddie 50 times though  it only paid $23.30 for 1 unit up here.

still , not complaining.