Peter Mair
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NSW Racing embracing momentous change
It is fair to mark Tuesday 20 December as the start of the reign of the new RNSW board.
One is naturally wary of media reports about RacingNSW when the Daily Telegraph is given exclusive acess to its deliberations, in this instance to the first meeting of the new board:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/nsw-racing-industry-about-to-embrace-an-era-of-momentous-change/story-fn67rc85-1226227104361
There is, predictably and sensibly, a general air of confidence about the new board's good intentions to restore racing in NSW to something akin to its historically high status.
The issue, however, is whether what is being proposed will work.
Consider these propositions extracted from the exclusive report:
................over the next five years Sydney's major racecourses - Royal Randwick, Warwick Farm and Rosehill Gardens - will get a $500 million makeover designed to reinvigorate the sport of kings.
.................approval has been given to begin a $285 million redevelopment of Warwick Farm racecourse and surrounds.
Remarks booked to the minister in a related context included:
"Royal Randwick will soon be at the forefront of racing excellence and the forefront of tourism".
"Today heralds the start of a long-overdue rejuvenation process that ... will win back the hearts and minds of Sydney's long-suffering racegoers."
Remarks booked to the new chairman included:
"Racing in Australia has a great franchise, but returns to owners as a group must be improved.
.............and that, frankly, is where the scepticism starts to build. On my model of the business of racing, the only way that the returns to owners -- akin to punters placing big bets -- can be improved is if the returns to breeders are reduced, and that means reduced returns to the major studs standing the most popular stallions, the progeny of which start favourite when the owner-punters are placing their biggest bets.
This story will unfold.
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Peter Mair
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2012-Jan-31, 08:22 PM
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Let us have the figures: some of the forum's industry plants must have the facts -- show us your 'tips'!
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2012-Feb-08, 09:18 AM
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New 'evidence' of RVL and RNSW cooperating on carnival programming
ANZ Bloodstock reports:
The 2012 Melbourne Festival of Racing was launched in Melbourne on Tuesday with Racing Victoria declaring,
“the late summer/early autumn showpiece poised to enhance its reputation as Australian racing’s launch pad to the world.”
The Melbourne Festival of Racing commences this Saturday at Caulfield with free admission to see Black Caviar compete in the C F Orr Stakes
(Gr 1, 1400m) and concludes with the William Reid Stakes (Gr 1, 1200m), at Moonee Valley in the evening of Friday 23 March.
Victoria’s richest two-year-old race, the $1 million Patinack Farm Blue Diamond Stakes (Gr 1, 1200m) at Caulfield on 25 February
precedes “Australia’s premier sprint”, the $1 million Newmarket Handicap (Gr 1, 1200m) at Flemington on 10 March and the
$1 million Dubai Australian Cup (Gr 1, 2000m) on the same day.
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2012-Feb-08, 09:22 AM
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I agree. With all the information and prepost betting available to mug punters on Metropolitan meetings every Tom, Dick & Harry knows the market before placing his bets and that wagering is reflected across all bet types. As a punter, who only bets on exotics, I have found the less infomation the mug punter has the greater my chances of showing a profit and the least information that mug punter has is on the obscure meetings.
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Peter Mair
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2012-Feb-10, 07:36 AM
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The RacingNSW rural roadshow -- a pretentious program outlined in the SMH
One can only wonder about the business model driving RacingNSW.
Quite apart from the fate of NSW country racing depending mainly on the levy decision, it is a bit overblown to suggest that racing is 'vital' to rural NSW -- perhaps the intemntion is to beat the rural drums so that the NSW government is primed to give concessions if the levy is defeated.
"Country and provincial racing is absolutely essential to our industry, and we want to know what needs to be done to keep it healthy and growing," Messara said yesterday. "Each of these meetings will give country people a voice and it's a voice that we'll be listening to. Country racing is a vital contributor to local employment and businesses; race clubs are part and parcel of the social and cultural life of country NSW."
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2012-Feb-10, 08:00 AM
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Yes, you've made your thoughts quite clear on the subject in the past Peter. Your vision plan involves: i) Closing down all country racing in NSW and ii) Closing down all metropolitan racing in NSW and betting on the Melbourne races We would then enter "punting utopia". Never mind the fact that all those people would lose their jobs.  Good on John Messara for thinking about NSW country and provincial racing. After all, it supplies a significant percentage of the overall racing product in Australia  |
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2012-Feb-10, 02:56 PM
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My 'vision plan' is about rescuing NSW racing from obscurity and restoring it to national prominence
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2012-Feb-11, 08:50 PM
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My 'vision plan' is about rescuing NSW racing from obscurity and restoring it to national prominence
But what does that actually mean? You don't seem to have any ides apart from "do what Racing Victoria do". But the one reason Victoria pulled away from everyone else, all open races on a Saturday metro, they are backing away from. Do you want Sydney to follow their lead? If so I agree with you. But if not, then what? I hope you don't mean less racing, because Racing Victoria are the fathers of "wall to wall" racing, without Racing Victoria flooding Sundays with their country meetings we wouldn't have the mess we currently have. |
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2012-Feb-12, 08:00 AM
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RVL is just the best of a national industry gone astray: RNSW will need a completely different business model to claw back a lost heritage.
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2012-Feb-12, 11:51 AM
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RVL is just the best of a national industry gone astray: RNSW will need a completely different business model to claw back a lost heritage.
Huh? Is that the best you can do? What do you actually mean by that. Do you actually have any idea at all? You sound like one of those sketch show characters who only talks in cliche's, except you do so in press releases. Just a hint, it doesn't make you sound like you know what you are talking about. |
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2012-Feb-12, 02:12 PM
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manikato - repeat after me ;
i will not respond to mairs drivel, i will not respond to mairs drivel, i will not respond to mairs drivel - say it 50 times
for me at least I find doing this stops me responding and thus further promoting his nonsense, as every time we respond it pushes his dumb topics back up to the top of the list.
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Peter Mair
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2012-Feb-12, 07:55 PM
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Dealing with Runaway is a bit fraught
It can be difficult to speak to someone openly when their professional ties are not identifiable.
Runaway, who joined the forum a couple of months ago, is presumably a recent appointment to one of the insider affiliates of RacingNSW -- and very welcome on that basis: we need more of these insiders to speak out about their employers' aspirations.
That said I would welcome Runaway putting some meat on the bones of the promised momentous change, preferably ahead of the court decision on the fate of the levy.
Looking further ahead, it would be sililarly helpful to have the Runaway's thoughts on the prospects for establishing a genuinely national business model for the Australian racing industry -- perhaps one where industry funding allocated from a national tote would be proportional to the tote turnover on the racing conducted in each state.
The grandstanding associated with RNSW's sale of cartoon racing will continue to lack substance until the new grandstand is completed -- but relevant words were written on the wall in bold letters at Caulfield yesterday.
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2012-Feb-12, 08:05 PM
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Dealing with Runaway is a bit fraught
It can be difficult to speak to someone openly when their professional ties are not identifiable.
Runaway, who joined the forum a couple of months ago, is presumably a recent appointment to one of the insider affiliates of RacingNSW -- and very welcome on that basis: we need more of these insiders to speak out about their employers' aspirations.
Seriously, do you have any clue? The bloke clearly outlined who he is (and was) also where he works (now) |
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2012-Feb-12, 08:27 PM
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The important thing is that we have another insider defending the indefensible
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2012-Feb-12, 09:27 PM
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2012-Feb-12, 09:44 PM
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I agree with most other people on this forum---Peter M's comments need to be ignored ----he feeds on response---and why would you feed the beast---withdraw the feed and it eventualy whittles away...  |
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