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Original Post 2011-Dec-22, 09:15 AM

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/drug-test-scandal-continues/story-fn67r1j3-1226227258889[/b][/color]

Harness racing drug test scandal continues
Ray Thomas
The Daily Telegraph
December 21, 2011

TWO leading harness racing trainers have been charged with paying a steward to ensure their horses were not drug-tested in races.
In the latest bombshell, trainer/driver Cameron Fitzpatrick and trainer Dean Atkinson face multiple corruption charges as part of Harness Racing NSW's investigation into the drug/betting scandal engulfing the sport.

Fitzpatrick has been charged with twice offering a monetary reward to a Harness Racing NSW steward to not drug test Lombo Baccarat at Bankstown on July 1 and Penrith on July 7.

Lombo Baccarat won both races.



Bankstown July 1 First 4 pools - NSW

R1 - $3,244.50
R2 - $3,487.00
R3 - $5,510.00 (Lombo Bacarat's race, 50/1 pop ran 2nd and Ben Sarina unplaced on 2nd fav from pole. F4 $1354.50)
R4 - $3,030.50
R5 - $2,753.50
R6 - $2,614.50
R7 - $2,059.00
R8 - $3,059.50

Penrith July 7 First 4 pools -NSW

R1 - $4,447.50 (Cam Fitzpatrick's drive was a late scratching)
R2 - $3,157.00
R3 - $3,017.50
R4 - $3,307.50
R5 - $4,300.00 (Lombo Bacarat's race, Ben Sarina unplaced on 2nd fav.F4 $441.70)
R6 - $2,368.50
R7 - $3,448.50
R8 - $3,623.50

Also note that Greg Bennett drove a treble this night (including Chang Mai)
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2011-Dec-22, 09:31 AM

Bankstown July 1 First 4 pools - NSW

R1 - $3,244.50
R2 - $3,487.00
R3 - $5,510.00 (Lombo Bacarat's race, 50/1 pop ran 2nd and Ben Sarina unplaced on 2nd fav from pole. F4 $1354.50)
R4 - $3,030.50
R5 - $2,753.50
R6 - $2,614.50
R7 - $2,059.00
R8 - $3,059.50

Penrith July 7 First 4 pools -NSW

R1 - $4,447.50 (Cam Fitzpatrick's drive was a late scratching)
R2 - $3,157.00
R3 - $3,017.50
R4 - $3,307.50
R5 - $4,300.00 (Lombo Bacarat's race, Ben Sarina unplaced on 2nd fav.F4 $441.70)
R6 - $2,368.50
R7 - $3,448.50
R8 - $3,623.50

Also note that Greg Bennett drove a treble this night


http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Information/Results/DisplayDetailedView.aspx?State=1&MeetingCode=S&RacingCode=H&FromDate=2011-07-01T00%3a00%3a00&DisplayType=ResultsDefault&RaceNumber=03

http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Information/Results/DisplayDetailedView.aspx?State=2&MeetingCode=S&RacingCode=H&FromDate=2011-07-01T00%3a00%3a00&RaceNumber=03



http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Information/Results/DisplayDetailedView.aspx?State=1&MeetingCode=S&RacingCode=H&FromDate=2011-07-07T00%3a00%3a00&RaceNumber=05


http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Information/Results/DisplayDetailedView.aspx?State=2&MeetingCode=S&RacingCode=H&FromDate=2011-07-07T00%3a00%3a00&RaceNumber=05


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2011-Dec-22, 09:46 AM

At first glance it's another Tasmanian bonanza.

Bankstown Trifecta Pool

11 NSW
27 Supertab

The invisible Tasmanian Trifecta Trends must be loved by certain dynasties.
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2011-Dec-22, 09:49 AM

I dont understand the fascination and surprise that the pools are bigger in hot races.  If there is a rort on, of course those in the know are going to bet up.
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2011-Dec-22, 09:56 AM

I dont understand the fascination and surprise that the pools are bigger in hot races.  If there is a rort on, of course those in the know are going to bet up.


Just confirming the rort
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2011-Dec-22, 10:00 AM

I dont understand the fascination and surprise that the pools are bigger in hot races.  If there is a rort on, of course those in the know are going to bet up.


Bigger in Tasmania. Presumably.

Sack Tasmania and corruption becomes less profitable.

Our media has decline to ever mention this Tasmanian phenomenon, so why not stop carping about my free service benefiting the public!


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2011-Dec-22, 11:08 PM

Race 7 Penrith tonight

A huge first 4 pool (3.5k more than trifecta) race won by Blake Fitzpatrick on a shorty

All other races the trifecta pool outweighed the first 4 pool
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2011-Dec-22, 11:33 PM

you should check out the supertab pools on that race, they dwarf NSW, especially the first four and trifecta shocked they held an astonishing 50k combined on supertab, compared to a piddy 19.5k combined NSW, and the exotic divs were massive unders there compared to NSW, somone really let loose

no other Penrith race tonight got within cooee of the combined tri/first four supertab pool, the nearest after the big 50 K was with 34k, most of the others were 20-25k range, certainly had the "ring of confidence" and the winner was $1.40, that's certainly beatable in my book, why i just tonight saw the puppet Chris Alford get beat on a $1.10 shot in race 2 at Cranny trots, but when that money goes on the Fitzy's, there's no tailing off at the start, no getting buried 3 back pegs on the goat track, just sit shotgun, treat them with contempt and kick their heads in   lol

Oh and i see a 100-1 pop lobbed for 3rd hole to "spice up the exotics"     lol

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http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Information/Results/DisplayDetailedView.aspx?State=1&MeetingCode=S&RacingCode=H&FromDate=2011-12-22T00%3a00%3a00&DisplayType=FinalDividendView&RaceNumber=07

NSW

http://www.tab.com.au/Racing/Information/Results/DisplayDetailedView.aspx?State=2&MeetingCode=S&RacingCode=H&FromDate=2011-12-22T00:00:00&DisplayType=FinalDividendView&RaceNumber=07

and did you see Blakey boy drove a $14 winner for Tappy in race 4 High Five Mozza
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2011-Dec-23, 12:09 AM

They can't help themselves
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2011-Dec-23, 05:04 AM

Race 7 Penrith tonight

A huge first 4 pool (3.5k more than trifecta) race won by Blake Fitzpatrick on a shorty

All other races the trifecta pool outweighed the first 4 pool


Probably because it was a Jackpot F4 from previous race.

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2011-Dec-23, 07:30 AM

Probably because it was a Jackpot F4 from previous race.




Jackpot: $2,961.57 from the previous race, wow that really boosted it lol
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2011-Dec-23, 08:31 AM

Jackpot: $2,961.57 from the previous race, wow that really boosted it   lol


Best as I can make out your quip marks you as not only very ignorant, but also unlikely to change.

If you can't figure why your remark is so stupid, then that is entirely your problem.

Insults such as yours leave me crying all the way to the bank.


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2011-Dec-23, 08:43 AM

Best as I can make out your quip marks you as not only very ignorant, but also unlikely to change.

If you can't figure why your remark is so stupid, then that is entirely your problem.

Insults such as yours leave me crying all the way to the bank.





Enlighten me please oh clever one
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2011-Dec-23, 09:04 AM

Enlighten me please oh clever one



With Jackpots the player has a positive edge while:

New Money < Jackpot/Rake

So New Money tends to somewhere about or above that ratio depending on the aims of the participants.

For those on 11% kickbacks the Rake is 11%.

New Money ~= 2962/0.11

~= $27,000

Bingo!

Or simply looking at other exsamples from that Meeting should verify your ignorance.
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2011-Dec-23, 01:39 PM


With Jackpots the player has a positive edge while:

New Money < Jackpot/Rake

So New Money tends to somewhere about or above that ratio depending on the aims of the participants.

For those on 11% kickbacks the Rake is 11%.

New Money ~= 2962/0.11

~= $27,000

Bingo!

Or simply looking at other exsamples from that Meeting should verify your ignorance.



Can you expand the rake etc. I don't go too much into the exotics etc
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