Racehorse TALK

Cox Plate is a over hyped race. Mackinnon and Australian Cups the go.

I have come to your way of thinking Steve, The Cox Plate should be run two weeks prior to the Caulfield Cup. Thats what its good for, a trial race for the 2 big Cups.

If Peter Moody thinks she can get 2000m she should have no problems at 1600m in the UK, Go and take on Frankel over a mile.

The Mackinnon is a Melbourne Cup freshen up and the Australian Cup is for Cox Plate wannabes.

Wash your mouth out 

Rake on frankel only if they can think she will win and try race on in the following year. You never know, and if she turns out to fight with atlantic jewel for a bit i think that could bring people into racing.

Personally wouldnt risk her in the cox plate before ascot and hong kong even. No need to rush

At least on thinking the Cox Plate should be before the Caulfield Cup.

No chance the Frankel team will take on BC.

Millions to lose by possibly being defeated without any huge advantage.

Why would you want to take a mare to the UK? it won't improve her value one iota, unlike a colt/stallion she can only have one foal a year!! by comparison she has many more challenges here and infinitely more money and infinitely less risk of something going wrong!! Only a wan*#r would risk her by taking her out of Australia

For the Sporting challenge. 

Sorry Jim, thats totally over the top nonsense

With 10 owners, what would racing for $200,000 more really achieve? After they have already won millions and are on the ride of their life.

Black Caviar has become a lifestyle for them and good luck, I say.

I couldn't think of anything better than trying to win a Group 1 at one of the world's most famous race meetings.

Why do you think Billionaires try and win the Melbourne Cup, sometimes with geldings?

Well give me some logic for taking her overseas?? anything and everything can go wrong with travelling that far!!! she will win more in Australia!!!! She has just as many challenges in Australia!!! She can Only have one foal a year so there is no busininess reason for doing it!!!

In Short there can be only one reason to go there, the owner is a Wan#*r!!! He wants to get pics of them selves dressed like a clown in a Top Hat and tails!!

It certainly isn't because of any concern for their horse

wily Now tell me your counter arguments as to where I might be wrong??

Jim, you want to come into the real world, Get with the times, Horses are no more likely to get sick and Injured by traveling around the globe than by sitting in their stables.

Its a SPORT remember. Remember you yourself was saying it is not just about gambling its a SPORT.

The only challenges for her in Australia is if they decide to step her up in trip and test her at a mile and beyond. There are no challenges for her in sprint races in Australia, The only way she can be beaten in Australia is if she is not at her best and NOBODY who loves the SPORT would be wishing that.

Mind you the only way she would be beaten in either the Golden Jubilee or the July Cup is if she is not at her best or fails to stay 6 furlongs on the far more testing tracks at Ascot and Newmarket, If she is at her best she simply wins those races easy.

There was go, it is a SPORTING challenge for her to travel over there.

Oh and the owner might be a , Their sexual preference is immaterial to the SPORT.

The simple facts are that they are proud of their horse, Australias best,  and they want to take her to one of the worlds greatest meetings and show her off.

I doubt that deserves the spiteful crap you just spewed at them by calling them s. The fact that they don't care about money or the right "business " decision is a feather in the cap rather than a reason to be so nasty

Vamp answered your question Jim, it's not always about the money remember 

I guess they want to take her OS 

They obv haven't pushed for it though as HK have tried two years running to get her there.