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Original Post 2012-Jan-17, 11:50 AM

Interesting court case in US got me thinking....(given purported 10,000 racehorses sent to slaughter in Canada/Mexico...)
what are the numbers in Aus?....what percentage of racehorses get destroyed within a year of ceasing racing....??
Would again be an interesting Uni students research project!
Do we, as lovers of the game, turn a blind eye to our nags ultimate destiny?



Sullivan & Cromwell lawyer sued for libel by racehorse charity

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NEW YORK, Jan 5 (Reuters) - A charitable foundation that prevents racehorses from going to slaughter after they retire has sued a Sullivan & Cromwell attorney for defamation stemming from his representation of one of the organization's donors.

The Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation filed suit in Manhattan state Supreme Court on Thursday against Frederick A. Terry Jr., of counsel at Sullivan & Cromwell, in his capacity as executor of the Paul Mellon Estate. According to the lawsuit, the estate gave a $7 million endowment to the foundation beginning in 2001. The foundation claims that Terry "engaged in a campaign of vilification" by making defamatory statements about its finances as part of a power struggle within the organization.

The lawsuit alleges libel and slander against Terry and seeks more than $400,000 in actual damages, plus punitive damages.

The Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation provides homes for retired racehorses that, according to the complaint, would otherwise be slaughtered for their meat and sold in foreign markets. The lawsuit states that more than 10,000 American racehorses each year are shipped to slaughterhouses in Canada and Mexico.

The 30-year-old foundation, which finds pasture land for injured horses and second careers for older horses, helps transition the animals to their new habitats through a vocational program with inmates at eight correctional facilities across the country.

Terry is one of the executors of the Paul Mellon Estate, established after the 1999 death of American philanthropist and racehorse owner Paul Mellon, according to the complaint. The 2001 endowment permitted the foundation to spend up to 5 percent of the fund each year.

Terry was not available for comment on Thursday. Michael Ledley, with Wollmuth Maher & Deutsch in New York, represents the foundation. He declined to comment on the lawsuit.

'CAMPAIGN OF VILIFICATION'

The action alleges that Terry, in an attempt to "wrest control" of the foundation from its board and management, "engaged in a campaign of vilification." Specifically, it claims that Terry wrote a letter to the foundation's accounting firm falsely stating that one of its financial reports was "incomplete and misleading" and made similar oral statements to the New York State Attorney General's office.

The lawsuit further claims that Terry and his co-executor handpicked a veterinarian who inaccurately reported poor conditions regarding the health and welfare of the foundation's horses. The veterinarian's report, the lawsuit claims, led to articles about animals neglected under the foundation's care.

The New York Times in March published a story that said the foundation's slow or delinquent payment for the upkeep of more than 1,000 horses resulted in "scores" experiencing starvation and neglect, some fatally.

The foundation seeks a jury trial.

The case is Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation v. Terry, No.               150012/2012      , Supreme Court of the State of New York County of New York.

For the plaintiff: Michael Ledley, Wollmuth Maher & Deutsch, New York.

For the defendant: Not immediately available.

(Reporting by Leigh Jones. Additional reporting by Karen Freifeld)

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1/8/2012 12:36:25 PM by okpolosi

I personally have witnessed both sides of TRF satellite farm care and was present when a TRF approved Veterinarian ( not the Mellon Vet that was fired by TRF )examined some TRF horses. One farm provides excellent devoted care to FAT healthy old race horses, and some of these horses are nearing 30 years old. Age does not imply poor health. I was present when the TRF Vet examined horses that were rescued from another TRF facility. These rescued horses were emaciated and in very poor condition, yet the Vet gave most of them a "passing" grade. Some of these horses later died as a result of their neglect at the hands of a TRF farm that was not paid in a timely manner and allowed the horses to suffer as a result. My personal experience and opinion is that the Mellon lawyer is "telling it like it is", and the TRF is guilty as charged.
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2012-Jan-17, 06:26 PM

there are so many questions left un answered, where is the S.P.C.A. in all this?? you would think there would be Animal rights organisations involved wouldn't you?? Why didn't the Lawyer making the accusations call in an Animal rights Organisation?? They are always looking for a Cause that can make the headlines, Public Opinion would be the obvious way to go if what he says is true, wouldn't you think??
The Farm that actually neglected the horses is just as Culpable as not being paid while it makes it hard should not just let the animals starve without asking for help from the Said Animal protection agencies

Stories like this disgust me( I don't mean You Shogun for putting it here) I mean either it is true and Horses are suffering needlessly OR this Lawyer is trying to get control of the money(which obviously will be taken away from the Horses Welfare) Either way it is a disgraceful state of affairs which ever way turns out to be true!!
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2012-Jan-17, 06:31 PM

Unwanted animals are a sad fact of life.
Even with the great programs with dogs & cats getting neutered, there still are many unwanted pets out there.
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2012-Jan-17, 06:43 PM

Yes that is true but the money is there to stop these horses from suffering, Paul Mellon left it there for a specific purpose and obviously that isn't happening, we can't stop all of it but we should never condone it or even worse cause it!! when that happens some one should pay!!
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2012-Jan-17, 09:32 PM

Will the TAFE case (where an ex racehorse only months off track killed an inexperienced girl after being used by TAFE on a contractors advice...coroner highlighted need for better tracking of ex racehorses, due to safety concerns) as a side effect, highlight how many ex racehorses 'bite the dust' soon after owners retire?
Is this another potential PR problem....?
Will we see a Four Corners episode questioning big trainers or owners as to where the (near or gonna be a ) champ is???? when he is dead and gone?
Debate.
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2012-Jan-18, 04:25 PM

What ...no takers? what
OK put it this way...what is the normal process in a big stable when they get a slow one...what sales can you put an ex racehorse through?
and what does the new owner get told....????
A big litigatable issue is it not? Is that a word? lol
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2012-Jan-18, 04:29 PM

Close but no Cigar lol  legitimate is the word you are looking for
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2012-Jan-18, 04:34 PM

Not that far gone at this time of the arvo Jim lol
I meant the time will come soon, that a thoroughbred owner will have to be very sure any new owner is aware of all traits/dangers associated with
horses behaviour ie bolting (which killed the young girl, a known bolter ends up in TAFE training course only months after being a rat on the track.).
There will be litigation....is what I meant.
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2012-Jan-18, 05:02 PM

You would have to know the circumstances before you can conclude that being a thoroughbred was the sole cause of the Accident, you can't blame the tools when the person handling them stuff up, if it was in Tafe there must have been Teachers in Charge, they should know the Students limitations and the Horses temperament, to just say the horse is mad let's put it down doesn't alleviate the problem, if the TEACHER was incompetent in their Horsemanship skills then you shouldn't "pass the buck" to the horse and take the easy way out

EX Thoroughbred racehorses(in General) are not much different to other horses if handled by a competent person, they are just bigger, stronger and Faster that is the main difference and are ready to take off(as in the barrier) so you have to know your horse but I have seen many very docile Thoroughbreds, you just don't put poor riders on their back, they are not kids horses, (unless they are exceptional kids like I was biggrin   biggrin )I don't know that accident but my Guess would be that either of a couple of things happened to be fatal
1, the Horse fell and landed on the girl
2, she fell off and got her foot caught in the Stirrup and was dragged
3, she fell off and hit her head

None of the above scenarios could be attributed to the horses fault, probably just an unavoidable accident

Do you know the full story??
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2012-Jan-18, 07:03 PM

Jim it was a widely reported case in all the daily press. Try googling? was a NSW Coroners case if ya really want all the goods.
Was a city based kid sent to Bathurst?? TAFE I think. Tragic case .
Who blamed who would be in the coroners report. Suffice to say summary of what I'd read is that there was little tracking or due care in the particular t'breds journey from race nut to supposed good horse?? months later. Duty of care breached by TAFE and contractors involved in Jillaroo course. Hard to say its not a side effect of horse racing industry to some degree....many 1/2 trained horses sold on to novices?
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2012-Jan-18, 07:31 PM

They are spirited horses, to be using them to "teach" inexperienced Kids is bloody stupid!! Doesn't mean they are "nuts" that is a description a Judge might put on the horse but does not mean it is accurate, Judges are experts in Law not Horses, he was probably given that info to act on by the teacher who was negligent or one of his cohorts, I really don't want to read that type of report, it's tragic but I just hope they don't make the horse or the racing industry the scapegoat without being sure, if they do it will happen again
I have seen a lot of horses branded "mad" and  nearly every one of them was just misunderstood, not saying the there aren't mad horses but they are a lot rarer than you think, mostly they just need re training properly
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2012-Jan-18, 07:42 PM

i've had horses that wern't suitable for kids or beginners but had people wanting them anyway my solution was theyre going through the sales you want it you buy it there not my problem. I've sold horses, given them away but would never do it with horses i considered dangerous but of all the horses that went through my stable that would only apply to about 5 or 6 horses. Breeders should take them back when they retire and arn't used for breeding. wink
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2012-Jan-18, 08:34 PM

They are spirited horses, to be using them to "teach" inexperienced Kids is bloody stupid!! Doesn't mean they are "nuts" that is a description a Judge might put on the horse but does not mean it is accurate, Judges are experts in Law not Horses, he was probably given that info to act on by the teacher who was negligent or one of his cohorts, I really don't want to read that type of report, it's tragic but I just hope they don't make the horse or the racing industry the scapegoat without being sure, if they do it will happen again
I have seen a lot of horses branded "mad" and  nearly every one of them was just misunderstood, not saying the there aren't mad horses but they are a lot rarer than you think, mostly they just need re training properly


If your going to pass judgement then you should read the story Jim.  wink

It was out at Dubbo, the coroner (no judge) was scathing on the TAFE and their lack of OH&S and poor investigation of how a horse basically straight out of work was allowed to be used in a riding course
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2012-Jan-18, 11:51 PM

Gin my whole point was NOT to pass Judgement!!
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2012-Jan-20, 10:58 AM

Thanks Gin for clarification. Jim you miss the point, these kind of near miss or sometimes tragic accidents happen in a large part due to the fact that racehorses are sold without warnings/record of behaviours etc.
It is also an industry that surely turns out more excess animals, year in year out that need to be 'gotten rid of'.
Yeah it is the world of 'horse buyin' and buyer beware should apply, but I reckon there should be some attempt to ensure the scenario doesn't happen again.
Coroners are there to pass judgement in some sense...ie who was culpable.
It's akin to selling souped up racecars to P or L platers without any sense of duty of care etc.
I agree that some horses are unfairly labelled mad or bad, bound to happen with some of the secret bad behaviour of frustrated trainers etc.
Vexing issue.   
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