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Original Post 2012-Feb-06, 12:11 PM

R6 - 3.50PM - Sportingbet C.F. Orr Stakes - 1400 METRES
Of $400,000.1st $240,000, 2nd $72,000, 3rd $36,000, 4th $18,000, 5th $10,000, 6th $8,000, 7th $8,000, 8th $8,000 GROUP 1 Standard Weight for Age, Maidens at time of entry are ineligible, Apprentices cannot claim. Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM
No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Hcp Rating
1 X591X0860X EFFICIENT (NZ) Robert Hickmott Eddie Cassar 4 59kg 113
2 X24536001X PLAYING GOD Neville Parnham Steven Parnham 7 59kg 110
3 220X00338X MIDAS TOUCH (GB) Robert Hickmott Steven King 9 59kg 111
4 25X670090X PRECEDENCE (NZ) Bart Cummings Steven Arnold 2 59kg 107
5 036900X803 DANZYLUM Robbie Griffiths Nicholas Hall (late alt) 6 59kg 97
6 50X01203X3 DOUBTFUL JACK Peter G Moody Jason Benbow 1 59kg 101
7 2X1421X30X ILLO (GER) Bart Cummings Kerrin McEvoy 3 59kg 106
8 1111X111X1 BLACK CAVIAR Peter G Moody Luke Nolen 5 57kg 130
9 X0042414X1 SOUTHERN SPEED Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Craig Williams 8 57kg 112
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2012-Feb-08, 08:00 PM

Gee I reckon you sell the TJ Smith short, Hay List shot clear and she ran him down going away, how many others could do that? Was an awesome performance.


She made Hot Danish look like a scrubber as well.
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2012-Feb-08, 09:07 PM

Don't think she has the right build to run 2000m's, but not to say she still wouldn't win  chin
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2012-Feb-08, 09:11 PM

Can I have even money.....

ANYONE[/b]

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2012-Feb-08, 09:12 PM

Gee I reckon you sell the TJ Smith short, Hay List shot clear and she ran him down going away, how many others could do that? Was an awesome performance.


I backed Hay List that day, and was the turning point for me, with BC.

That IMHO, was her best win by far, for so many reasons.

First go, running clockwise, first time traveling, and the first time put under any pressure, and the first time we have ever seen her have to dig deep, and find another gear, which she did in emphatic style.

One thing I did take out of that though, was if she was ever going to get beaten by Hay List, it would have been over 1400m's, and ridden like he was that day.
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2012-Feb-08, 09:19 PM

Can I have even money.....

ANYONE[/b]

beer


Which race you want even money in?
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2012-Feb-08, 09:23 PM

Which race you want even money in?


This week would be terrific--$500 thanks....

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2012-Feb-08, 09:38 PM

I will tell ya this though for free.

She is (BC) at equal weight with a Caulfield Cup winner that won first up with 60kg and drops 3kgs on that effort.  In contract, BC goes up .5kg and 200m.

The question is, can Southern Speed improve 12 lengths?

  lol   lol   lol   lol   lol
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2012-Feb-08, 09:45 PM

I think also for what its worth, not that you can actually make money on her races, but:

The placings could go to Playing God, Illo and Southern Speed.  I am not even sure the Tri will pay $6 or the F4 $12.
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2012-Feb-08, 09:55 PM

I think also for what its worth, not that you can actually make money on her races, but:

The placings could go to Playing God, Illo and Southern Speed.  I am not even sure the Tri will pay $6 or the F4 $12.


Just give me $500 even money to win---forget the other bets---you offered.....

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2012-Feb-08, 10:12 PM

She also beat Hay List in Brisbane pretty much the same way.

As Wenona said, she smashed Hot Danish and did the same to Melito.

So the list of horses she hasn't just beaten but absolutely destroyed

Hay List- was top 5 in the world
Hot Danish
Melito
Ortensia
Star Witness

Some of those horses have some pretty fair Overseas group one form, just as a bonus.

Ortensia finished within 1.5 lengths of Rocket Man, JJ the Jet Plane, Sacred Kingdom and Kingsgate Native 4 short weeks after being beaten by an eased up Black Caviar by 7 lengths.

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2012-Feb-08, 10:33 PM

I think also for what its worth, not that you can actually make money on her races, but:

The placings could go to Playing God, Illo and Southern Speed.  I am not even sure the Tri will pay $6 or the F4 $12.


While she will win well , I think the gap to 3rd will be just as big (SS has lengths on those 2 at this dist)- so those two bets should only be $2 each 
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2012-Feb-08, 10:47 PM

Righto, I will take them just like that.
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2012-Feb-08, 11:11 PM

I'm often wrong lol
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2012-Feb-09, 09:33 AM

Ortensia finished within 1.5 lengths of Rocket Man, JJ the Jet Plane, Sacred Kingdom and Kingsgate Native 4 short weeks after being beaten by an eased up Black Caviar by 7 lengths.


And for that reason she never has to travel. Other horses constantly prove how good she is. The same thing goes for Frankel. Whilst they stay at home their conquered travel the world picking up the crumbs.
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2012-Feb-09, 11:09 AM

If you were running for second...they all are...how would you ride your horse with her in the race?
Will anyone bolt for home Karuta style and try to secure the second prize that way? or will all the jocks sit tight, slow jog and hope they can sprint 'second best' last 400 as she blows em away?
Debate...who will be leading at the 400 and by how much?
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