Racehorse TALK

I'll add to that to avoid the confusion - he is both.

A week is certainly a long time in politics. Especially in Qld.

We have had some interesting Racing Ministers

Fraser and Big Russ are very similar

From: dubbledee

Sent: 12/09/2007 4:08 PM

Followers of this thread cleaned up in a big way when Sydney champ Thorn Park won the Stradbroke in 2004. Pleasing news that his progeny are showing promise in NZ. DD that photo brings back sooooooo many happy memories..... I'll never forget when you ordered your steak at the Brekky Creek forum party the day before that Straddy and gave your name as Mr Thorn Park and you said "thatttttts the winna ". I hoooooooooope his 2yos do very well and we may even see one of them over here for another Straddy. QUESTION............Has any Straddy winner been the sire of another Straddy winner?

I did see that and thought, who is this old bloke whinginging about penalty rates?

Wouldnt the public holidays create  enough extra revenue to more than cover the extra wages bill?

Don't blame the jock dubbledee. The horse lacked the maturity not the little parcel of joy.

Palmer versus Coome?

Its unfortunate when you have to book them 48 hours ahead of nominations. The calendar has him riding at 52kg (Coome) so I guess we all should have known there was never going to be claim.

Magic Millions managing director David Chester today announced the new dates for the revamped carnival which has been put back from its traditional January timeslot because of the equine influenza (EI) outbreak.

Chester said the Easter schedule was the most suitable time for Magic Millions clients.

"This timeslot also ensures our sales and raceday will not clash with any other major racedays or thoroughbred events in the region," Chester said.

"As well as this our new dates fit favourably with our large and ever-increasing international buying bench.

"The new dates will also provide owners and trainers with more time to prepare their horses for the rich Magic Millions raceday at the Gold Coast - the only raceday of its kind in the world and the richest in Queensland."

The carnival will kick off with the $4.1 million Magic Millions raceday which includes the Two-Year-Old Classic (1200m) and Magic Millions Trophy (1400m) for three-year-olds on Easter Monday, March 24.

The first session of the Magic Millions sale will commence later that night.

Nine sessions have been programmed for the 2008 sale, running from March 24 to March 27 followed by a two-day break before recommencing with session five on March 30.

The sale will continue until the final session on April 3.

Chester said Magic Millions had planned to reveal its revised carnival at a later date but had been forced into announcing the decision today following pressure from clients.

"Magic Millions intended to delay the announcement of rescheduled dates for the Conrad Jupiters Magic Millions Yearling Sale and raceday as long as possible for obvious reasons," he said.

"But over the last few days our company has come under a great deal of pressure by domestic and international buyers as well as breeders to end the speculation."

Sydney's William Inglis and Son premier yearling sale is usually held at Easter but has been put back to April next year due to the EI crisis.

Sydney's autumn racing carnival is also expected to be delayed by four to five weeks.

Meanwhile, Magic Millions announced it would assist breeders and vendors in the lead-up to the 2008 sale by offering up to four weeks complimentary stabling at the Gold Coast.

I notice in the first at Emerald that the the No1  is from the J O'Shea stables at Rockhampton. Any relation to the other J O'Shea.

Not sure Delta.

Name:	JIM O'SHEA
Statistics:	Last 3m	Month 1	Month 2	Month 3
Runs:	13	1	3	9
Wins:	1	0	0	1
2nds:	1	0	0	1
3rds:	5	1	0	4

DD, you mentioned J.Holder. If you get a chance have a look at his ride yesterday on Orme.  Close to perfect imo but then I am talking through my pocket.

BT was going to take the kids to Disneyland, so maybe that is where he is at the moment..

I know it is always luck with me when selecting my runners , but it will be more so for some time when the racing does start up again.

DD, I was under the impression that SC and other outer venues would commence before Brisbane but obviously not the case.

Of interest smart QLD galloper Vitruvian resumes tomorrow at Geelong... obviously injury plagued this fella has some nice form... check out this form line.... from racing and sports.... anyone know how this guy is going??

EAGLE FARM	3 Dec 2005
Hardy Brothers Jewellers (C6) 1200m $25,400	SOT=Dead
	SecT=36.40 / RaceT=1:11.00

FP	Tb	Horse	wt	Jockey (bp)	Trainer	SP
1st	3	STRAWBERRY MALT	53.0	MATTHEW PALMER (11) (-3.0)	BARRY BALDWIN	5
2nd	1	VITRUVIAN	57.0	GLEN COLLESS (12)	ALAN BAILEY	8
3rd	5	LA MONTAGNA	55.5	MICHAEL CAHILL (4)	BARRY BALDWIN	5-2

Might move in myself

Bloke in the red hat looks like a ring in.

What did ya do with the old grass?  Could have used some at my place.  Plus Fine Cotton walked on that. Hope ya kept a piece for the museum.

the main course looks in fantastic knick.

Ahhhhhhh

Where's the clock gone?  I was born beside that.

And I know one forumite that backed it.

Still staggers me that they'll happily run 20 round EF and Doomben without any problems yet Flemington is stuck at 16 with a few exceptions - grow some balls VRC!!!!!

A MOOTED transfer of the Queen's Birthday public holiday from June to October would mean another change to the winter carnival program.

If the State Government proceeds with a plan to change the public holiday, the traditional Brisbane Cup June race date would be deleted from the winter carnival in 2009 and beyond.

Queensland Turf Club chief executive Stephen Ferguson said his club had been informed of the proposal by Queensland Racing Limited and was looking at options.

"Ultimately it is QRL's decision but you can see there is going to be a problem juggling the expectations of all race clubs involved in the winter carnival," Ferguson said.

"There are currently six main winter meetings shared – three at Eagle Farm and three at Doomben.

"If you take one away by removing the Queen's Birthday holiday then you have five meetings or push the later dates at Ipswich, Tattersall's and the Sunshine Coast back a week.

"You can see the very real possibility of a squabble between the QTC and the Brisbane Turf Club over the allocation of race dates.

"Under a merger, it wouldn't be an issue at all. This is a clear and simple example of why the clubs should merge.

"It's incredible to think there is now a prospect of more energy being wasted on race dates instead of getting on with business."

Public holiday race meetings, once regarded as good money-spinners for metropolitan race clubs, have largely delivered mediocre financial returns over the past 20 years.

And in a lot of cases, meeting on public holidays have been run at a significant loss.

The QTC has to pay staff at double time-and-a-half rates on Brisbane Cup day.

Chief operations manager Malcolm Tuttle said the QRL was awaiting further advice from the State Government before deciding on any changes to the winter dates, starting from 2009

I have'nt tried to record from the IQ box yet but it is more than likely possable.

If you can do it , maybe you could just transfer from IQ to a disk what you want to keep.

Great stuff Coinswell, appreciate and look forward to your thoughts.

DD,

This first starter ran a really nice race at Yarra Valley on December 1st. He missed the start a little before booting up to share the lead. He was crossed mid race but battled on well to run 4th beaten about 2.5 lengths. The class of race wasn't great but he showed enough to suggest he can win soon.

ELVIS AARON | Jockey: M FLAHERTY | Barrier: 1 | Weight: 57.0 |
Trainer: Ricky Maund | Penalty: 0 | SP: $9

Will Owners' breathe a sigh of relief?

A very good ride it was

I realize this is not what you a looking for but it's marvelous what little scraps of paper that we keep in the drawer of the computer desk

Don't even know how old it is.

Just seen this interesting site

I would probably have bet money that the record at Flemington for the 3200m would have been faster than Eagle Farm

Eagle Farm -3.15.7

Flemington-3.16.3

Therefore that proves the best horses run up here (Only joking )

I reckon they would generally run about three or four 900m races at Toowoomba each year.  It is only due to EI they seem to be running a lot of short races in QLD at the moment just to get the ball rolling.  So the 900m record at Toowoomba is not the most prestigious

The caller said that Azzaland had either broken the 900m course record or gone very close to it when he won 2 runs back clocking 50.65.  West of Hollywood ran 51.01 so he cannot lay claim to being the fastest squib at Toowoomba

Coin, a few years back something like this had our interest at Wagga.

  I emailed them and and they were very good in that they they even rang me to say they fixed things up.

  I noticed a lot of the clubs don't update their web sites very often. I thought that in this day and age that it would be very important.

I really think that one of Australia's biggest downfalls is their inability to take up the the slack in the informations stakes in regards to racing information available to the punter ... i would love to see something simular to what Hong Kong has available on it's racing website.

It has race replays, audio , video ,instantly updated results , horse , trainer information and the list goes on.

Now i know it would be a big ask for clubs to have all the information available to the punter that the HKJC has on it's site , but i would love to see some of the clubs take up the challenge to implement some of the great features available in Hong Kong.

Not sure if it falls under QR racing juristriction or the individual clubs themselves to implement something like this ... but it surely would be Great

So true MagiC HK have it all over Aus in a lot of ways. The thing with them is the HKJC get to keep all the revenue from betting turnover whereas Australia has created laws ensuring racing cant get financial control over itself. Work that out!!

That gives HK a huge amount of money to spend ensuring racing is clean, genuine and well presented. Meanwhile we have to fight tooth and nail to get any form of assistance through the EI crisis. Something has to change if we are to survive and thrive>

Everyone always raves about the quality of HK racing etc etc.  But if HK races on a Sunday the Australian betting pools are not greatly different to the pools for Sunshine Coast or the Victorian or NSW provincials run on those days

So the punters voting with their wallets are saying HK racing is no better than the Australian Sunday provincial fare and I agree with their assessment.

I will admit the HKJC website is impressive but it is not making Australian punters bet any more on it than they do on Aussie racing without the fancy websites.  So why would any Australian club spend money and time on something that won't bring in any extra cash?

I would much prefer to bet on Sunshine Coast on a Sunday than smoggy Sha Tin

Kingmug

Do you work with the banks? Sounds like their logic Dont spend money unless it is absolutely necessary. Just so you know though mug most smart punters which are those that have the capability of betting on more than local racing dont bet with our local TABS, unless they are getting well overs which is generally unlikely as their bets would eliminate the overs. Also HK racing is not exactly promoted very well by Aussies. For 5 of the last 7 years Aussie has had the totally dominant trainer over there yet I havent seen his name mentioned in any local press. Can you explain that?

You must have a crystal ball. You are 100% correct in all areas.

I've had the scissors out before Mrs G is even out of bed so she won't be happy.

I'll just tell her to email Sinclair and abuse him.

I reckon it was great the way it was. Why change

Friday will be the big test.

Otherwise back to emailing Bart to sort it out

STATHI Katsidis believes a move to a Brisbane base will be a catalyst to a more dedicated approach to his riding career in 2008.

Katsidis is living in his home town, Toowoomba, to work with his personal trainer, former Clydesdales rugby league player Darren Ingram.

Before he went to Melbourne for the spring to partner Gold Edition, Katsidis had been living on the Gold Coast for several years.

"I think a change of scenery will be good. Brisbane is the right place for me. I'll be riding at the two city tracks and have only an hour to get to the Sunshine Coast on Sundays," he said.

Katsidis wants to form an alliance with Deagon-based trainers Shaun Dwyer and Steele Ryan.

Dwyer is open to the idea of Katsidis riding some of the stable horses but has one condition.

"Stathi will have to put in an effort at trackwork. Some of my clients are keen for him to ride for them," Dwyer said.

Katsidis has to convince everyone he is prepared to put in some hard work for an extended period.

He has a history of being easily distracted. In the past racing season Katsidis missed six months for various reasons, mostly weight-related.

He has just served a one-month penalty for testing positive to a diuretic during the Melbourne spring carnival.

During the break Katsidis let his weight climb and, under Ingram, he has had to work hard to trim off the excess.

"I am doing a lot of interval training in two one-hour sessions a day," he said.

"I tend to get very muscle sore with the workouts and have followed the footballers' idea of having ice baths to hasten the recovery."

Katsidis, who rode a winner at Ipswich on Sunday and has six rides at the Sunshine Coast today, is able to take 56kg mounts but plans to reduce that level soon.

His Sunshine Coast rides include one for Dwyer on the Octagonal five-year-old Roswald in the Signwave Maiden (1000m).

Roswald has started only once previously, for a close third in the "return to Deagon" meeting on September 14.

"He's a horse who has a long history of leg problems and we've had to be very patient to get him to the post," Dwyer said.

Four of the Katsidis rides are from the Bruce McLachlan stable, including Mr Blonde in the Thompson Building Services Maiden (1400m).

Good memories.

I beleive he is still travelling OK , so he must have done alright in the long haul.

And opposition trainers are watching Mair's movements closely with no real zeal to tackle Hebitda.

Mair has accepted with Hebitda in the Magic Millions Trophy Plate (1000m) at Toowoomba today and the Equipment Funding Plate (1110m) at Doomben tomorrow.

Hebitda is likely to start an odds-on favourite if he goes to Toowoomba, the option favoured by Mair last night.

"I'll check the track conditions again in the morning but I am leaning towards Toowoomba if things stay the same as they are now," Mair said.

"The horse has done well but I don't want to go all the way up there just to run on a wet track."

The forecast is for showers to continue over the next four or five days, but both venues were in pretty good order late yesterday.

There are four youngsters dually engaged at Toowoomba and Doomben.

The other three are Saratoga and stablemates Que and Rufescent. Saratoga's trainer Ron Maund admitted he would prefer to dodge Hebitda.

When the pair clashed at Eagle Farm on December 15, Hebitda swept past Satatoga inside the 200m and raced away to win by more than four lengths.

"He looked a bit too big and too good," Maund conceded.

Mark Webb is another who will be doing a last-minute check on track conditions and the weather pattern before finalising plans for his two-year-olds.

"At the moment I would say Rufescent and Rocket Gal will run in Toowoomba and Que will line up at Doomben," Webb said.

"Hyde Park may be scratched from the Toowoomba race, which would be his third run in a fortnight.

"Hebitda looks hard to beat whereever he runs but it's amazing how horses can find it hard to win at their first run on the Toowoomba track.

Quizzical will be having her first look at Clifford Park in the $100,000 XXXX Trophy (1100m).

Her trainer Bruce Hill will be saddling runners – stablemate Symtina is in race three – for the first time in his own name, although he previously had taken runners to the track in his role as stable foreman for trainer Gerald Ryan.

"I know it has a record as a graveyard for visiting horses but Quizzical Lady is a very tough filly who puts in every time," Hill said.

Trainer Bruce McLachlan is giving Key Bar Nights a strong winning chance, despite her outside draw at 17.

"I thought she was a Melbourne spring filly until the horse flu ruled that out," McLachlan said.

"And she will be hard to beat in this with any sort of luck from the draw."

For reasons best known to the decision maker, Eagle Farm has been chosen as the venue for the Midweek Comp.

I have therefore had a reason to have a sqizz at the fields, and the first question that cause a furrowing of my brow was

Don't many horses win races in Queensland?

Three maiden races with fields with upwards of 85 starters.

Okay, you jokers know the form, how about having a lash at the Midweek Comp?

QR look to move Saturday's Gold Coast meeting due to wet weather

c/ Courier Mail

Qld Racing will look at moving Saturday's Gold Coast meeting to avoid predicted wet weather.

Chief steward Reid Sanders said QR racing manager Paul Brennan would be involved in any talks on a possible transfer to Brisbane or the Sunshine Coast.

"The problem is that everywhere seems to be getting the rain," Sanders said.

The forecast is for rain to continue on the Gold Coast until Friday. A meeting scheduled for yesterday was called off because the track was unfit for racing.

Sanders, who will monitor the track daily, said the fact there would be new ground because of a relocated rail would help.

Acting track manager Steve Andrews has no doubt the meeting will go ahead if there is a break in the weather.

"All we need is 24 hours without rain. It dries very quickly," Andrews said.

The rail was out 6m for the meeting yesterday but will be moved back to half a metre on Saturday.

"The inside 2.5m has not been raced on for four weeks. The other three metres have been used at meetings since," Andrews said.

He said a section between the 800m and the 400m was the main cause for concern because it was sheltered from the drying winds by a shopping complex.

Gold Coast trainer Gillian Heinrich has no fears about starting Ghetto Blaster on a heavy track and is eager to see how he performs.

The vastly improved Ghetto Blaster is unbeaten this campaign and looks the main threat to Mitanni in the $100,000 Goldmarket Handicap (1300m).

"Ghetto Blaster loves the mud. The horse could not be going any better," Heinrich said.

She also has Spur Me On nominated for the feature race but he hates wet tracks and will not run in those conditions.

Heinrich said Glen Colless had booked himself for the ride on Ghetto Blaster a month ago and would make the 53kg limit without drama.

"I don't know how Mitanni handles the wet but he will have 61kg and that is a big difference," Heinrich said.

Mitanni is a noted wet-track performer and Shane Scriven was kind to him when he scored last start because he had the race won halfway up the straight.

Ghetto Blaster is likely to be rested after he runs in the Goldmarket and Heinrich has ambitions to run him in the Stradbroke (1400m) at Eagle Farm this winter.

Umaprince's trainer Mick Hicks is hoping for a break in the weather, because the six-year-old does not handle wet tracks.

I think that T Axon is ex adelaide not Sydney

Hangman.

Lol .... looks like he may have taken offense to some of the badgering he has copped from some members of this forum

I think a measure of a persons true character is being able to take critism as well as you can dish it out

I'd guess he was talking about this forum and also guess he is a regular contributer here.

Only guessing but he sounds like a bloke on here.

I see in the paper that Brett Cavanough is bringing a team of horses to stable up here at Eagle Farm. Some of which could be racing as early as next week end.

Jason Holder is back on the Gold Coast after a stint in South Aussie. I doubt if he will have a meeting to go to tomorrow but stranger things have happened.

Ron Maund and the owners are tossing up as to who will ride Gold Edition. It is between Stathi Katsidis and Jim Cassidy according to Ron..GE is due to return on the 2nd Feb at Flemington over the 1000m Lightning.

An absolute tradgedy, and can only imagine what the families are going through.

everything else seems pretty trivial compared to the loss of family and friends.

Our thoughts are with the family and god bless.

Good to see Mary from Doomben threatening more legal action.

Poor old lawyers will be happy to hear that.

This time Mary is upset over losing Melbourne Cup day to those old buggers over the road. Uncle Bob from Deagon had promised that it was her turn but now has changed his mind.

lol @ Mary from Doomben and Uncle Bob from Deagon.

roflmao

AT was a bit tough on Hirsute after the first, imo.

Seemed to be slippin' and slidin' down the straight, nearly came down on her nose from what I could see.

Did anyone think the same?

Waas it my imagination, or did Kinsmate go slippin' and slidin' at about the same place in the straight?

LIGHTLY raced Mr Heartbreaker will take the first step in trying to repay a $1 million debt at Eagle Farm on Saturday.

Owners Hoss and Gillian Heinrich rejected a $1 million offer from Hong Kong for Mr Heartbreaker and the decision clearly delighted Gillian, who trains the horse.

"I never took any part in the negotiations but I am glad he is staying with us," Heinrich said.

"If Hoss had taken the money he would have only spent it on trying to get other horses who might not be as good."

Mr Heartbreaker will run in the $50,000 Class 6 (1200m) and a win would return his connections $32,000.

Jockey Ric McMahon has been engaged to ride him.

Stablemate Ghetto Blaster will also stay in Brisbane after the couple also refused a $1 million offer for him from Hong Kong.

Ghetto Blaster has been sent to a spelling paddock for two weeks.

Heinrich said she would concentrate on trying to win major sprints with the gelding this winter.

"I will nominate him for the Stradbroke but the sprints are very appealing. We might stretch him out to the Stradbroke trip (1400m)," Heinrich said. "He is a different horse since we gelded him."

Fancy calling your horse "Mr Heartbreaker", now that's tempting fate, ain't it?

Previously ridden for speed, Falvalady now is being ridden patiently and she found the line with great purpose for in-form jockey Jason Holder to post a margin of a widening three lengths.

The biggest grin at the track belonged to Gold Coast trainer Brian Gentle who celebrated his first city win with Sir Teles ($5.50), then added another victory with Fools Rush In ($2.80).

Fools Rush In looked beaten on numerous occasions in the home straight but found extra under pressure to nose out Thunder Beach ($6) in the City Pacific Plate (1660m).

Gentle, 36, has come through an excellent education in his craft. Originally from Orange, he spent time as understudy to Bruce Hill in running the Gerald Ryan stable at the Gold Coast and briefly branched out on his own.

"I couldn't get enough horses on my books so I gave away training to spend time in Sydney," Gentle said.

"I had 12 months with Gai Waterhouse and then 2½ years with John O'Shea. Last March I decided to take out my own licence again."

Gentle has steadily built his numbers up to 22 horses in work. His past 11 runners have produced six winners, including yesterday's double.