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Original Post 2008-Nov-18, 10:10 PM


This thread was copied from the MSN forum TNHRCF and started by Dubbledee (DD)

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From: dubbledee(Original Message) Sent: 4/24/2007 6:37 PM
Have seen numerous posts of miscellaneous stuff relating to Brisbane Racing on various threads.
Think we need a thread set aside for such stuff.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/04/2008 4:14 PM
BTC Vice-Chairman Kevin Dixon must be wondering when his luck will change with heartbreak maiden Unintentional.  The horse ran a great a race on MM day from barrier 16. 
He's found 10 in a field of 18 at GC tomorrow.  On Sunday on the Cushion he's got 16 of 17 in a Class 1.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/04/2008 5:06 PM
And the Baldwin camp will be disappointed in speedster Bythemountain's marbles:
21 of 22 at EF on Saturday.
19 of 19 at SC on Sunday.

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 3/04/2008 6:22 PM
I'll have a whinge about my rather limited mare Forever Autumn's luck with marbles recently, all over short courses where a decent barrier can make a considerable difference.
10/10, 7/9, 7/8 and 10/10.
She's drawn 9/9 over 900m at the Gold Coast on Saturday.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 3/04/2008 6:26 PM
Sorry,. I know it's not funny but that is incredible.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 3/04/2008 6:40 PM
jrb...all you need to do is get them to roll the track for you 9 horses out from the fence.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 4/04/2008 1:07 PM
j.r.b.
Yes, remarkable, but we gotta look at her overall career.  In 26 starts she's been inside half on 12 occasions, and once dead centre. She hasn't been all that badly off.
Also - and here I am being a pest again for the second time in 2 days - she did WIN two of those four starts you list above.I bet ya grateful for the inflated odds you got as a result.
Also, in the other two runs, did the barrier make a difference?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/04/2008 2:22 PM
From yesterday's Sunday Mail:
Bruce Mclachlan hosts South African jockey Sean Cormack
by Bart Sinclair

BRUCE McLachlan will continue with an international search for a stable jockey when he hosts South African Sean Cormack on a fact-finding trip this week.

Cormack is highly regarded in his home country and comes well recommended by former colleague Glyn Schofield, now making a big splash in Sydney. Schofield rode successfully for McLachlan for a season before he took up a Hong Kong offer a few years ago.

"Glyn knows the Queensland set-up and how my stable operates and he thinks Shaun would be a perfect fit," McLachlan said.

"He's had a terrific run in the past couple of months, which will make it a bit harder to convince him to move to Australia. Once he sees the Sunshine Coast and the opportunities he could have here I think he will be at least prepared to give the offer a lot of thought."

McLachlan has been at his best when he has had the backing of a top-flight jockey. Over the years he had great success when Gavan Duffy, Brian York, Schofield and Grant Cooksley were doing the bulk of the stable riding.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/04/2008 5:54 PM
j.r.b. musta put plenty in the plate on Sunday.
He hasn't been in to complain about Forever Autumn's red box tomorra.

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 8/04/2008 6:23 PM
Apparently it wasn't quite enough, dd.
Rain about and she's worse than hopeless if anyone so much as spits on the track.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/04/2008 9:44 AM
Occasional showers over the coast, j.r.b.  It's pretty fine right now, and I dunno if any has gone as far as Ipswich.
Let's hope it's forever a fine autumn, and good luck today.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 9/04/2008 10:14 AM
Light showers over this way

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 9/04/2008 10:22 AM
Thanks for that dd and gratlog.
I see we are running, despite my preference to wait for another day.

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From: specialweek Sent: 9/04/2008 4:18 PM
track upgrade j.r.b.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 9/04/2008 4:41 PM
Good ride
Good on ya JRB.

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From: NineMSN Nicknametriple-7- Sent: 9/04/2008 4:43 PM
Looks a good thing you were over ruled JRB, lol. Congrats.
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From: j.r.b. Sent: 9/04/2008 4:52 PM
Barrier 1.
Overruled about scratching her.
Track upgrade just before the race.
You might say everything fell into place today.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/04/2008 7:41 PM
Great result, j.r.b.  Never in doubt.  
All those practices she had at SC are now coming to fruition.
I reckon the Cushion Track is what she's been waiting for.

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From: j.r.b. Sent: 9/04/2008 7:46 PM
Thanks dd.
I got excited when I saw the time - 45.10 seconds for the 800m (last 600m 31.96 seconds), which I thought was low level flying.
That is until I saw that the 2yo in the preceding race went even quicker!

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From: NineMSN Nickname_Umrum_ Sent: 9/04/2008 8:01 PM
Tour Guide has been very ordinary last couple.
Anything in the stewerds report?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/04/2008 6:31 PM
umrum
Dunno what the stewards have said but I thought Tour Guide looked well above himself at GC.  There was plenty of money for him at EF last week but didn't finish off again.  I'd think he could be given another try.
Pleasing to see former top sprinter Starlactic back at Doomben tomorra.  He's been off the scene since March last year.  Let's hope he can return to his best.

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From: NineMSN Nickname_Umrum_ Sent: 11/04/2008 6:45 PM
Might be right DD.
He was beaten at the turn but only got beat probably 2 1/2 lengths.
cheers

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From: raceratepro Sent: 11/04/2008 6:55 PM
Stewards ordered a vet check after the first up run at the GC, no abnormalities found. I backed him at EF last week as did plenty of others, very disappointing. Some good horse's don't come back the same after a spell, I wonder if he got EI? He'd want to win another one well before I back him again.

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From: the-kid Sent: 11/04/2008 9:25 PM
He is racing like his stablemate Rassmussen


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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 11/04/2008 10:02 PM
Courier Mail guide has omitted two runs for Qualo Star in R 5 He was 5th at EF on 1/3 and won at SC on 23/3 beating My Son Day neither are in the guide.Although 11th last run he had no luck and could be a place chance tomorrow,If Xaardante turns up it  I thought it should win..Nericon King faces its' test in R3 with at least 5 good chances of beating him home Amex Gold looks good to me and Easily Done looks a good roughie in the last, forget its' last couple.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/04/2008 10:24 PM
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I don't think any of the GC horses contracted EI.
Rasmussen failed at EF on March 1 because of the track - according to the trainer.  Just like every other horse who got beaten on March 1 at EF.  You know, Chinchilla Rose, Daedalus, all them.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamefourtyfour4 Sent: 11/04/2008 10:30 PM
I recall the jock one day saying he believed Tour Guide sounded like he had a wind prob. He did win one race after that however.
As for Rasmussen, if you have watched him parade you would not be surprised by the way he has performed

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From: Ascot Sent: 13/04/2008 6:41 PM
T'was a big day out last Thursday for some Brissie Forum luminaries.  DD had to pull plenty of strings to be admitted to the inner sanctum, and the TTC still wonder what hit them.He harassed this bloke mercilessly to get in a photo.  So who is the bloke with DD?   He had a few good tales to tell.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 13/04/2008 6:58 PM
The boy from Cunnamulla.
Has anybody else riden three Straddies?

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From: the-kid Sent: 13/04/2008 7:56 PM
Two of the true legends of Australian Racing.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/04/2008 9:17 PM
LOL, Ascot.  If you keep roaming around racetracks with your camera and writing bull$#@& stories you're well on the way to starting up your own website.  How about something like onlyracing.com.au?
TK....don't you have a  on your reply box?
Seriously, it was very pleasing to catch up with Darby again.  He's in fine fettle, and now working as an advocate for local indigenous people dealing with the justice system. I can remember just like yesterday Darby's first city winner in 1957.  I was milking cows during my school holidays and an "unknown Aboriginal apprentice from Cunnamulla" won the last at Doomben on Rio Sand by a big margin.  The track was heavy.  Darby reminded me that he was 14, but gave me all the background to Rio Sand.  He was a "bleeder", etc, etc.  Amazing, when we realise that was 50 years ago and consider the many tumultuous - but sometimes controversial and troublesome - episodes for which Darby is remembered.  We also talked about my first-ever day at Randwick in 1969 when he won the Epsom on Broker's Tip and the Derby on Divide and Rule.  His stories about his "preparation" of D&R for the Derby win are classics.  Darby didn't let connections in on his high opinion of D&R for fear that they would give the Derby ride to one George Moore.  We talked for an hour or so, had a drink - Darby on the soft stuff - and will likely meet up again at the Stradbroke.  As gratlog has mentioned he won 3 Straddies.  From memory they were Mullala, Cele's Image and Castanea.  I saw them all.
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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/04/2008 9:33 PM
This fellow might yet be racing over 2400 at EF in June.
From: dubbledee Sent: 30/01/2008 8:28 PM
One of Australia's greatest-ever riders sent around a smart youngster at Eagle Farm today.
Anabaa colt Formula One Racer looked just every bit a stayer of the future in winning his Maiden on debut for Mick Dittman.  The books were well primed to the horse's ability and the $2 wasn't on offer for long.
Desley Forster might pursue a Derby path.  Out of a Zabeel mare, that doesn't look too ambitious right now.
From: <NOBR>NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31</NOBR> Sent: 30/01/2008 8:35 PM
Promrose Sands was not bad.
From: <NOBR>NineMSN Nicknamefourtyfour4</NOBR> Sent: 30/01/2008 8:37 PM
Curious DD what made you think he was a stayer of the future? From what I saw he looked a sprinter on type, by a fresh /sprinter stallion and only just beat an ordinary field. Yes out of a very good race mare by Zabeel who was a 2000m horse at tops. Not trying to be a pest , just curious. I know nothing about him other than what I saw today
From: dubbledee Sent: 30/01/2008 8:43 PM
Why? Because the even tempo he ran today, doing all that was needed to hold the rest at bay.  He's been patiently handled and has perfect conformation.  He'll run a lot further than 1200 m. How fast, we'll find out later in the year.
From: <NOBR>NineMSN Nicknamefourtyfour4</NOBR> Sent: 30/01/2008 8:52 PM
This may sound stupid but what do you mean "the even tempo he ran today, doing all that was needed to hold the rest at bay".

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From: Ascot Sent: 13/04/2008 10:11 PM
Geez, I reckon DD is looking old.  Would explain why he went to sleep on the way back in the bus.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/04/2008 2:13 PM
You reckon I'm looking old, Ascot?
TTC have put out an APB asking for info on this guy who was caught wandering around the enclosure last Thursday.
Best I could come up with that he looked a bit like this fellow (with a bit of age on).
 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/04/2008 2:18 PM
Long-term QTC committeeman Bill Stanley has died after a short illness.  Bill and his wife Evelyn were well known in the 60s and 70s for the many good horses they raced in eastern Australia.  Many were from NZ, and included Cyron, Rajah Sahib, Mr Cromwell, High Sail, etc.
Bill and Evelyn were regular racegoers until a few months back.
Bill's funeral will be held at New Farm this Thursday.
R.I.P, Bill.  Condolences to Evelyn, family and friends.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 20/04/2008 3:39 PM
There were a couple of dozen happy owners after Nuclear Medicine demolished the Power field yesterday at EF.
The majority didn't know one another until they met through a racing forum. 
I enquired which forum, and I thinnnnnnnnnnnnnk they said "oh it's a private one, All Sports".  Maybe I got the name wrong, but I got the distinct impression that they didn't want me in there.

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From: NineMSN NicknameSpudda028 Sent: 21/04/2008 11:16 AM
Well if thats the case DD maybe we don't want them in here?????
Anyhow, just a quick thanks and hello to the forumites I caught up with at the track on SAt. Good to see the folks again. Pity we picked such a tough day at the track. Even with Valedictum saluting in the last in Syd I still finished on the wrong side of the ledger, but managed to make it to the GABBA to see a ripper game of football. Then had it topped off to hear the mighty North Melb boys beat the pies. Top day all round and thanks for your hospitality.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/04/2008 1:23 PM
Oh, don't worry, I didn't mention this forum.  There are more than enough pests in here as it is.
Good you enjoyed the day, Spudda.  You weren't the only one that lost.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 21/04/2008 6:50 PM
I notice forum fave RAINCOAT is in Race 7 at Doomben on Wed over the 1350m first up.

His fresh record is nothing flash but he could do something late.

Aside from Ben's The Boss and maybe Acceleration (on its last run), it looks a pretty even field.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 21/04/2008 6:53 PM
Maybe Sozzani?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 21/04/2008 6:55 PM
Also see Prince Cochise is in on Wed at Doomben.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/04/2008 7:01 PM
Yeah, saw them in.  Raincoat's race is tough. What about Acceleration, Catchit and Straddi?R will be aiming for longer of course, but he's a smart galloper.
Might be able to shorten up the last with Bythemountain and Courtyard Circle.  Gratlog will be on the latter.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 21/04/2008 7:04 PM
I went down to the track 1 week to early

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/04/2008 7:06 PM
But ya had Robyn with you, right?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 21/04/2008 7:06 PM
Yep Stradd is handy (eligible for C1) as is Catchit.

Master Hugh is also drawn to run well in the last.

Some decent races on the program - hope the weather is fine?
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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 21/04/2008 10:04 PM
Yeah good to catch up again Spudda......Sorry I mentioned that trifecta again but I just can't help myself. lol
Hope you get the chance to drop in more often....always a seat there at the table providing you don't mind getting into a shout that can go on forever.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 22/04/2008 3:40 PM
From the results of a GC trial below we can safely assume Bareena will not run tomorrow. I would be interested to know what if anything has happened to Woody'N'Buzz which failed to finish.

Race 6. 900M Handicap (return to top)
HORSE Rider Fin SP

BAREENA DEAN TANTI 1st
OMNITRADER MATTHEW CHADWICK 2nd
OUR MAVOURNEEN(NZ) MATTHEW PAGET 3rd
MI JUBILEE(NZ) BRAD PENGELLY 4th
BORSHA'S MARK SHOHEI SHIRAHAMA 5th
WOODY 'N' BUZZ GLEN COLLESS Failed to Finish
MITANNI Scratched
MY FIRST AFFAIR Scratched

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From: NineMSN NicknameSpudda028 Sent: 22/04/2008 8:19 PM
Lol Mono, no worries about the tri, makes for a good story. Just imagine how many times we would have told it had we have landed the thing....
Might just have to keep trying at it!
Might make it a little more regularly now I don't have a class lunchtime Sat anymore. And will leave the car at home in future so I can continue on in that shout!
Cheers ,

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/04/2008 9:53 PM
Shame we won't be seeing Bareena at Doomben tomorrow.  With the chance of a soft track I was getting excited.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/04/2008 2:16 PM
Closest is probably on the street right outside the railway station in McGill Ave.  Enter from Kitchener Road.  But I'd get there before mid-day.
Alternatively there's parking in Lancaster Road.Coming off Nudgee Road, look around before you get to Racecourse Road. There are off-street car parks on your right there as well.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 28/04/2008 2:55 PM
"Retiree" Stathi Katsidis is booked to resume riding at GC on Saturday.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/04/2008 1:48 PM
Tony Meany reports in today's C-M that Katsidis has bookings for 7 rides at GC on Saturday.
So much for retirement....

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 29/04/2008 1:52 PM
Did'nt someone that knew someone that knew someone else and was from Ipswich tell us that this bloke was definately retired?
Anyway I'm happy to see Stathi back but will he turn up at Royal Ipswich tomorrow?
He can ride, that is for sure.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/04/2008 9:14 PM
Yes, gratlog.  We were told that.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/04/2008 9:17 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
Jockey Willie Pearson out for three years
by Tony Meany
GOLD Coast jockey Willie Pearson has been disqualified for three years for taking cocaine and methamphetamine to the races.

Stewards charged him with improper conduct and alleged he took the illegal drugs to the Gold Coast races on March 29.

Pearson was disqualified for another year for failing to provide a urine sample on the day and stewards ordered the penalties to be served concurrently.

"I'm gutted but I plan to see my solicitor to appeal," Pearson said.

Apprentice Dan Peisley was disqualified for a year for failing to provide a urine sample.

Both riders picked up appeal forms when leaving the QR Deagon office.

Chief steward Reid Sanders said both jockeys seemed to be devastated when they heard the penalties.

Pearson, 22, was arrested at the Gold Coast races after stewards called police and asked them to investigate suspicious activities.

Stewards said they noticed "unusual behaviour", and a search of belongings in the jockeys' change room uncovered the cocaine and methamphetamine in a gear bag.

Pearson and Peisley attracted attention when they behaved in an unusual manner near the toilets in the change room.

Peisley, 21, hurriedly left the track after being asked to provide a urine sample for testing.

Stewards stood both riders down from riding in races and trackwork.

The penalties took effect from the March 29 meeting.

Pearson was subsequently bailed in Southport Magistrate's Court on charges of possession and is required to re-appear on June 4.

He is a former glamour Sydney apprentice.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/04/2008 9:19 PM
Also on the Brisbane jockey front, the highly-talented Brad Stewart has completed his short jail term following traffic offences, and is hopeful of returning to race riding very soon.
Racing can ill-afford to be without this guy.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 30/04/2008 10:05 PM
Not the first time Pearson has copped a long suspension - he got one riding in Sydney for not allowing a horse to run on its merits.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMullerbeck Sent: 1/05/2008 10:58 AM
Does anyone know how many bookies field in Ipswich?
Yesterday I was in Randwick and was keeping an eye on other states odds. In Randwick, the TV, which display bookies fluctuations also display total field % and the tote odds next to it.
I was incredulous to notice that the bookies regular field percentage was around 164% - 166%. The best percentage all day I noticed was 158%. In most races, your were lucky if one or two horses were better with bookies than on tote.
What the hell are they thinking? Are Queensland punters that dumb that they still bet with them, despite the crap odds? Surely they will not make any money fielding on races, considering staff wages and other costs. Why would you even bother? My mind boggles.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 1/05/2008 1:02 PM
MB, There were three there last time I visited.
Surely any serious punter would'nt bet with them, but the other week at Doomben I donated $5 a race to Haydn Flynn and Lindsay Gallagher.  To say the least they were'nt being rushed of their feet.
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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 1/05/2008 2:01 PM
Stathi gets his chance first ride back Friday Indiana Storm
Barry Baldwin doesn't blame  Shane Scriven for the Mittani/La Montagna punch up legging him up on Simplest Friday

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 1/05/2008 2:34 PM
Stathi had a ride in the first at Ippy yesterday. He rode Barako

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 1/05/2008 2:47 PM
Gratlog ,I'm on medication takes 48 hours to catch up 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 2/05/2008 2:26 PM
As I type this , Mick Pelling is on 4BC talking about drugs in the racing game.
What brought it up is the heap (7) of riders penalised for drug abuse this last couple of weeks. That includes some trackwork riders.
Kim Mothershaw is the compere today between 12 and 4 so he is sticking up for the racing game. Kim is going for his trainers licence soon so good luck to him.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 3/05/2008 11:01 PM
Just in case anyone missed it, I think Sky Channel said that there would be no replays tonight due to their overseas coverage. Todays races will be on tomorrow night.
Don't take that as gospel but I think it is right.

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From: NineMSN NicknameLittleMissy512 Sent: 3/05/2008 11:03 PM
Muggins - you gotta forgive if you hated every single jockey for every single thing they've done the horses would be ridden by monkeys

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From: dubbledee Sent: 3/05/2008 11:03 PM
Correct as stated, gratlog.  We'll just need more space on our HDs Sunday night-Monday morning.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 5/05/2008 4:16 PM
Good story by Bart Sinclair on the racing life of Brett Cavanough in today's C-M.
Cavanough hails from Charleville and was a gun shearer in earlier days.  He rode trackwork at Eagle Farm for legendary trainer H.F. (Fred) Best.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 6/05/2008 11:44 PM
Haven't heard much about the offspring of one of racing's blue-bloods, Don Eduardo.
Rob Heathcote has 3yo SPANISH ARMADA having its 2nd run at SC tomorrow.

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From: NineMSN NicknameOLD_LARSY Sent: 7/05/2008 5:18 AM
Any of you 'old' fellas remember a quality Qld sprinter called Innisfree?
It's namesake ran at Kelso in the UK tonight in a 3m4f (5600m) steeplechase and ran 2nd @ 55/1

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From: wenona Sent: 7/05/2008 9:32 AM
I remember him very well, won a Straddie,
Geez, Larsy, what do you mean old?
That was only thirty years ago.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/05/2008 11:26 AM
Yes, he was a nice horse, Innisfree.  Was black from memory, but wouldn't bet on that.
I think he started at 33/1 and was ridden by Greg Hall for his father, Ron.
Interest stat for the mare Winmara, who's running at SC today.  She's run 3rd at her last FIVE starts.  All have been in reasonably-sized fields, 12, 13, 14.
I wonder what the longest sequence of placing recorded by a galloper?  I know some have had lengthy runs of 2nds.  Five in a row is a fair record.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 7/05/2008 11:30 AM
Don Eduardo

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From: specialweek Sent: 7/05/2008 4:02 PM
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From: dubbledee Sent: 7/05/2008 4:09 PM
I believe so, SW.
Last I saw of him he was enjoying a juicy pie at the Weetwood.

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From: specialweek Sent: 7/05/2008 4:20 PM
Thanks DD, I thought so, and also believe he may be a chance at ew odds on Guy horse R7.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/05/2008 9:28 PM
9yo marvel Bikkie Tin Blues resumes on Saturday at Doomben over 1350 handicapped at 59.5 kg.  Brian Smith has engaged young Michael Hellyer to ride.
A couple of months back I asked BJ how the old champ was going and he said  "Better than ever".

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 8/05/2008 10:28 PM
Nice to see M.Rodd back in the winners circle yesterday at Moonee Valley aboard Mrs Waters.
Hopefully he is well and truely over his medical problems and he can get back to riding at his top again
Fate can be cruel because Rodd would have been the rider of Apache Cat during the winter carnival.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 8/05/2008 10:57 PM
Not often we see a horse an acceptor for Brisbane and Melbourne. Well, Railings is on Saturday.
If he's got any taste he'll jump on a plane and be at Doomben.

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From: Ascot Sent: 9/05/2008 12:39 AM
Jockey's fundraiser at the Pineapple Hotel today was a top function.  Shane Scriven & Jim Byrne very generous with their time and gave some remarkable insights into their trade. Tony Noonan whispered a tip for one of his runners at Caulfield on Sat.  John Baker, foreman for Greg Eurell told me Apache Cat is spot on, despite being unsettled by a polo match in the paddock next door at Canungra last weekend.Swiss Ace connections pretty happy with theirs.  Don't believe any rumours about being under a fitness cloud.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 9/05/2008 9:34 AM
DD, I see that Railings is still in Melbourne due to transport problems.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/05/2008 10:09 AM
That's a shame, gratlog.  Hope he can get up here.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 9/05/2008 11:06 AM
I know the paper prices are silly most days but they have Railings at $31 in the first in Melbourne tomorrow.

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From: NineMSN NicknameOLD_LARSY Sent: 9/05/2008 11:09 AM
Why would it be a shame if Railings can't go to Brisbane?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 9/05/2008 11:13 AM
Just some plane problems with getting him here I think .
BTW I see the Tenterfield Saddler is sponsoring the 5th race tomorrow.  If you ever have reason to drive through that way , call in and say G'Day. They also have a good mail order service.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 9/05/2008 12:51 PM
Come on Ascot.....if your going to name drop then at least pass the tip on.
By the way I was fortunate enough to attend a similar type function down by the bay and Shane Scriven ,amongst other jockeys was well received by the audience. He relayed a few stories which brought the house down . Not too sure if the stewards would have been happy , but I'd expect all of the old time jockeys and trainers who had to bet to supplement their training to survive would have similar stories.
Another thing Ascot...you can find a racing function.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 9/05/2008 1:00 PM
I see where Shane Dye has decided to try his luck at Doomben.
At time of print he is listed for 2 rides. His ride in Race 8 Mynewbestfriend seems to be his best chance.
I can remeber years ago when Dye would have the pick of the Freedman horses during the winter but Freedman seems to bypass Brisbane carnival now...

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From: NineMSN NicknameSeal155 Sent: 9/05/2008 5:25 PM
Another brisbane carnival - always a great carnival but gives me the poops that i can't access replays on the net unlike bris and syd through TVN/ bigpond sport- as pay television unavailable here - how can i get sat replays- even sent on dvd through week? anyone know?

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From: Ascot Sent: 9/05/2008 8:55 PM
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From: dubbledee Sent: 12/05/2008 3:58 PM
I think we've got an Apache Cat look-alike in the shape of Twba 3yo SPRING MAMBO
Haven't seen him in the flesh but on the video he's a chestnut with four white feet and a face to match.  So far, that's where all comparisons to The Cat end.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 12/05/2008 4:16 PM
I see in Obi's column this morning that Our Jangles from the Trevor Miller yard is also a look alike of Apache Cat with a few people taking his photo on Saturday by mistake.

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From: NineMSN NicknameSeal155 Sent: 14/05/2008 7:31 PM
will  be looking at fixed odds as they open - can we be pretty confident of good rating for saturday or is there some moisture around up there?

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From: MagiC** Sent: 14/05/2008 7:36 PM
It's Queensland .... beautiful one day, perfect the next 

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 14/05/2008 8:05 PM
Seal, there is a rough chance of some showers.
Certain parts of the northside of Brisbane had some showers yesterday and we had some on the southside today.  Not much but enough to settle the dust

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From: NineMSN NicknameSeal155 Sent: 15/05/2008 6:56 PM
thx
best bet for the brisbane winter carnival !!!!- have opened bareena at $9 and $3p for this sat - tab fixed - drawn 6 compared with well outside last start - huge run , as super impresive start previous - get on before the price goes

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 15/05/2008 7:37 PM
Thanks for the tip.How did your horse go the other day.You're entitled to blow the trumpet for a winner ya know.

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From: NineMSN NicknameOLD_LARSY Sent: 15/05/2008 8:10 PM
Which race is Bareena in? I can't see it in any fixed odds markets on TAB

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 15/05/2008 8:50 PM
OL still got stars in yore eyes fatherhood Congratulations! Check the Glenlogan Park Stakes but watch out for Chinchilla Rose

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From: NineMSN NicknameOLD_LARSY Sent: 15/05/2008 9:01 PM
Thanks Muggins, I sorted out which race it is but NSW TAB not betting on that race

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From: NineMSN NicknameSeal155 Sent: 15/05/2008 11:02 PM
no winner yet- thx for asking - but hoping this horse should supply my first - 4th - wide throughout and bit green -

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From: vintage Sent: 15/05/2008 11:37 PM
Reported in the Courier Mail today that former jockey and trainer Jim Parr, 52, died in Brisbane on Tuesday night. 
A true racing character who had a dip at most aspects of the industry with a good story to tell about them all.
From memory he first moved to Brisbane to be foreman for the Brian Mayfieldsmith satelite stable.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 16/05/2008 8:57 PM
Another funeral of  note  former Brisbane strapper/trainer? Trevor Boland son of late George Boland early 60's died in Adelaide RIP

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/05/2008 10:41 PM
From today's The Courier-Mail:
Jockey Stathi Katsidis sidelined after drug positive

by Bart SinclairSTATHI Katsidis's career was again in limbo last night after stewards stood him down indefinitely following a positive drug test.

Katsidis declined to comment after stewards ordered him to forego six rides at the rich Doomben Cup meeting tomorrow. He will have to face an inquiry after further tests on a routine urine sample.

Chief steward Reid Sanders said he could not make further comment until the inquiry into the report was held.

It is understood the sample was taken at an Ipswich meeting on April 30, the first day Katsidis resumed riding after a self-imposed exile to sort out his private life.

In February, Katsidis was charged with driving with a blood alcohol level of 0.163 while driving from Brisbane to Toowoomba. He was fined $1000 and disqualified from riding for six months.

In the same incident police charged Katsidis with possession of an illicit drug.

He faces a prolonged stint on the sidelines. Already his career battle with weight has severely tested his relationship with stewards and trainers who often have been left to find last-minute replacements for well-fancied mounts.

His rides tomorrow included New Zealand three-year-old Mission Critical in the $500,000 XXXX Gold Cup.


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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 11:43 AM
The Rough Habit Plate is that now a set weights race, with NO penalties ?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/05/2008 10:23 AM
Just a human interest story from yesterdays Courier Mail

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From: red Sent: 18/05/2008 10:28 AM
That's a good read gratlog. The average joe doesn't know how much goes on behind the scenes.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/05/2008 11:23 AM
Handy Brisbane mare, Sunday Adieu, has gone to Melbourne in the care of Peter Moody.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/05/2008 10:01 PM
Good news that Michael Cahill is set to resume riding this week after a serious trackwork fall last June.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 20/05/2008 10:02 PM
Another handy rider to boost our riding ranks. I read where young Michael has been doing some globe trotting of late.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 20/05/2008 10:34 PM
Yep and let's hope Stubby doesn't go overseas.

Saw Johnny Powell in the jockey line up before the big race from Singapore the other night - it'd be good if he came back too.

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From: the-kid Sent: 21/05/2008 1:20 AM
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I've heard Shannan was involved in a nasty fall at trackwork Monday Morning. It was touch and go there for a while but fingers crossed she should be ok.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/05/2008 1:38 AM
Bad news for another Brisbane rider.  Andrew Spinks broke a leg at trackwork.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/05/2008 8:43 AM
The heavy shower that hit the racecourses late Saturday afternoon delivered some much-needed water to Eagle Farm.  There's now about 6 weeks' supply in the original in-field dam.

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From: NineMSN NicknameOLD_LARSY Sent: 22/05/2008 9:01 AM
Sniper's Bullet would love some more water at the Farm thanks

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From: NineMSN NicknameKingMug2 Sent: 24/05/2008 8:18 PM
What is happening with the handicapping of races in Brisbane these days?
In R3 the weighting of Equates is a bit strange comparing it with others runners it raced against last time
On the 10th May R3 was a C6 race where you had
Moglich 1st allotted 56kgs
Ulladulla 2nd allotted 54kgs
Equates 5th allotted 53kgs
So if there was any change to the weights next time you would expect Equates would be better off versus the first two home but that was not the case today
Today R3 was a C6 race where you had
Moglich allotted 57.5kgs
Ulladulla allotted 53kgs (it was scratched and did not run)
Equates allotted 56kgs
So Equates was clearly worse off at the weights for being beaten by Moglich and Ulladulla
Now I notice on the RSB site it says today's race was a set weights race.  So I assume the May 10th race was a handicap and that explains the difference in the weights.  But it still seems a fairly silly system.  I can understand level weight, set weights or weight for age racing for high class horses but not sure it is a great idea for C6 horses.  All C6 races should be the same.  If not they should be designated as something else

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 25/05/2008 1:40 PM
7th race at Rocky on Tuesday should be OK

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 26/05/2008 2:33 PM
This might be of interest to Brisbane fans who don't get the Courier Mail.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 31/05/2008 4:59 PM
The Doomben group 1s have certainly recieved a boost today with horses beaten along way in those dropping back in grade (good grade) and winning well.
 Luvuleo a Galileo superstar was beaten 9 lengths in the Doomben Cup by the champion right way of racing gelding Sarrera and came out and won the WJ Mckell cup instyle.
Tan Tat De Lago beaten a similar margin in the 10,000 pulverised her 3yo opposition in listed 1400m sprint.
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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 1/06/2008 12:20 PM
DD, much damage to the track yesterday in your opinion?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/06/2008 12:57 PM
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I didn't walk the track after the last, but as you'd have seen on the TV, the track is in great condition.  The depth of grass meant there weren't a lot of clods thrown up so the damage would have been minimal.  Obviously the most wear occurs before the home turn where horses are racing close to the rails.
The track would have been rolled last night and filled this morning.
We dunno what's gonna happen the next couple of days, but I guess we have to be prepared for rain.  Given 3 or 4 fine days leading into Saturday and the track will be perfect.
I'd expect the rail would go out a couple of metres.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 1/06/2008 1:00 PM
Probably around 100 horses would have run over it yesterday so let 's hope we get some decent weather from at least Wed onwards.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 1/06/2008 1:14 PM
Not sure if I heard correctly but Scott Seamer stated the worse part of the track was at the 600 mtr crossing ....hasn't that been removed?

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From: NineMSN NicknamePHILtheoriginal Sent: 13/06/2008 4:55 PM
CMC receives allegation of relationship between Beattie and Merri Rose

Canberra correspondent Bernard Keane writes:

The Queensland Opposition has referred to the Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission serious allegations relating to attempts to conceal a relationship between then-Premier Peter Beattie and his Tourism and Racing Minister Merri Rose.

In May 2007, Rose was sentenced to eighteen months gaol for attempting to blackmail Beattie. She was released after three months. There was considerable speculation at the time about the nature of Rose’s blackmail threat.

Yesterday, Nationals frontbencher Rob Messenger wrote to the Crime and Misconduct Commission with allegations from a former Rose staff member that Rose forced staff "to shred official documents, sign off on invalid overseas and intrastate trips, schedule unofficial business and official business and process false parliamentary leave requests to conceal a relationship between former Premier Peter Beattie and Merri Rose."

Read the full letter here.

The allegations were made by Ms Barbara Daddo, Rose’s former personal secretary, who died in May 2006. Daddo prepared an extensive statement relating to the activities she was required to undertake for Rose, which Crikey has seen, along with Messenger’s letter. Daddo’s statement alleges extensive bullying and offensive behaviour by Rose, as well as repeated requirements to falsify documents facilitating and concealing meetings between Beattie and Rose.

The material does not suggest that Beattie ordered any illegal or inappropriate activities or even knew of efforts to conceal the relationship. However, efforts to bring Rose’s behaviour toward staff and others to the attention of the Premier’s office and Beattie’s chief of staff, Rob Whiddon, were unsuccessful.

Crikey understands that the material was brought to Messenger’s attention by another former Rose staff member in the context of a Parliamentary debate over the right of public servants to speak to MPs.

Ms Daddo’s statement indicates that her role in assisting Rose to conceal the relationship, as well as Rose’s behaviour, placed enormous pressure on her. The stress is considered by a former colleague to have directly contributed to her death.

The statement said in part: "Many times in the lead up to my breakdown I told the Minister I was finding it difficult to handle the demands of the workplace and the additional work that I had to carry out as a result of being ‘the only person’ who could manage her relationship with the Premier and other liaisons. I also realised that I had been instrumental in many illegal and corrupt activities.

"I had to shred documents, sign off on invalid overseas, inter/intrastate trips, scheduled unofficial business as official business, process false parliamentary leave requests so that she could meet with the Premier on Parliamentary evenings. He also filled in parliamentary leave forms for fictitious functions for her to represent him so that they could meet on Parliamentary evenings.. I found it offensive, immoral and unethical that so many people in public office were so unaware that staff such as myself were being imposed on."

Rose was appointed Emergency Services minister in 1998-99, Minister for Tourism and Racing from 1999 to 2001, and later Minister for Tourism, Racing and Fair Trading. There were repeated allegations that Rose bullied staff, and two successful compensation claims against her. She lost her seat of Currumbin in the 2004 election, after which she demanded that Beattie provide her with a high-paying public sector position.

The statements seen by Crikey paint a sad picture of a woman wholly out of her depth and incapable of managing her staff or her life. This dysfunctional minister’s office inflicted a massive toll on Daddo, as well as another staff member who has since died. The real story here is how a Premier could decide that a women like Rose was capable of performing effectively as a Minister – or whether her appointment reflected other motivations on the part of Beattie.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 13/06/2008 9:35 PM
Crikey! How could he? And shouldn't this be somewhere else?

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 13/06/2008 9:37 PM
Believe it or not but I think we do have a thread on this topic somewhere .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/06/2008 12:03 PM
I have to admit I've never heard of apprentice J Grylls.  He's attracted the attention of Brisbane trainers who gave him 5 rides at Ipswich today.
I'm assuming he's a rel of the well-known Kiwi rider, Grylls.
Anyone know anything about him?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 14/06/2008 12:15 PM
I had just sent this to a mate in NZ who was interested.
Bart did this story in todays Courier Mail

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 14/06/2008 12:20 PM
He is the son of Gary Grylls, a former top Kiwi Jockey.
Young Craig is on loan to Shawn Dwyer while his boss is in the UK supervising his horse Seachange.
The apprentice also has his pilots' licence and intends to become a commercial pilot when his riding days are over.
A jockey that can think.. ....this kid might be one to follow

dd ,Grats or someone else may be able to scan this story from today's Courier mail

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 14/06/2008 12:21 PM
Beat me to it...Thanks grats.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 14/06/2008 12:21 PM
Done

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From: Delta Sent: 14/06/2008 12:24 PM
According to The NZ Racing Site DD, Craig Grylls is 18 years of age. has had 1642 rides and 127 winners. Has outridden his allowance.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/06/2008 1:05 PM
Thanks, heaps, all.  Will be interesting to see how he fares today.  BB has put him on The Big Easy, so must have some sort of opinion of him.
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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 14/06/2008 4:46 PM
That fall looked terrible.

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From: NineMSN Nicknameatlast2 Sent: 14/06/2008 4:48 PM
The jockeys seemed to roll of ok.  Too many runners!! around a dog track

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From: NineMSN NicknameKingMug2 Sent: 14/06/2008 5:26 PM
How many falls on Ipswich Cup day the last few years?  There was at least one other a few years back.  Too many runners per race for that track?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/06/2008 9:02 PM
Looked a terrible fall in the Waterhouse.  Let's hope Lacey Morrison and Tony Patillo come through with no serious injuries.
A News report tonight suggested that the first horse to fall "broke down".  Not sure how that would be determined, but if it's true, it would seem to exonerate the track and field size.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 14/06/2008 9:12 PM
Looked to be in blue colours - Centinelle?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/06/2008 9:44 PM
Could have been, coins.  Haven't looked at the film again.
Young Grylls on My Kirra knocked me out of a good place bet on Bingil Bay.  The latter ran a very good race and is worth following.  It's her first campaign so she might be off for a spell.  She might fly the flag for Ombra Della Sera next campaign.

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From: NineMSN Nickname_imaufo_ Sent: 15/06/2008 12:29 AM
It looked to me that the horse broke its hind leg...seemed to be swinging uselessly after it got up... just what people want to go and see..

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From: Ascot Sent: 15/06/2008 12:44 AM
DD
I was 20m from it and watched it unfold.  It was horrifying.  Stella Joy was midfield and snapped a leg, dropped quickly and Lacey went over its head.  She hit the turf OK but then copped a pummeling from the traffic behind.  Those following sprayed in all directions with three others falling in the wake.   Then the poor girl was rolled on by Stella Joy. 
First reactions were that she is badly injured.  Good news is that she seemed to get some protection from the vest and did not appear to have head injuries. 
All happened in a flash and I have not seen the video, but it looked a total accident.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/06/2008 11:26 AM
Yes, looked terrible, on the film.  Hoping they're all OK.
Sad to lose Stella Joy.  Centinelle's had her share of bad luck already.

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From: NineMSN NicknameAntitab Sent: 15/06/2008 12:07 PM
It is interesting that they race at Ipswich 30 or 40 times a year and my guess is the number of falls is no greater that at any other track in the country.
However invariably there is trouble on Ipswich Cup day. I suspect it is a result of bigger fields and bigger prizemoney which creates more urgency for the jockeys who might push a little harder than in the $12000 maidens the ITC usually host.
Its not a fair track for good quality horses. The last 10 years results on Eye Liner day is perfect proof. Time to take the stand alone Saturday meeting away and allow the best horses in the state to race at the best tracks.
They realised it in Sydney and took away the Canterbury Guineas meeting, its time Brisbane follow suit and then we can work on the Victorians moving the last meeting in October away from that crappy saucer to a decent venue.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 15/06/2008 12:26 PM
Once again, we gotta remember that one swallow does not a summer make.
The fall in the Ipswich Cup some years back when 6 fell was due a horse breaking down.  Current thoughts are that the Waterhouse fall was also due to a breakdown.
Stewards are smart enough to look at statistics, rather than one-off incidents.  I venture to say there are no more falls - to a statistically significant degree - in the "large" fields at Royal Ipswich than there are in small fields at other tracks.

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From: Geoff Sent: 15/06/2008 6:12 PM
Ex-Qlder Striking Point having first start for 20 months in the last at Warrnambool today.

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From: NineMSN Nicknameatlast2 Sent: 16/06/2008 6:07 AM
If we could take a look at the probability of a fall at a track taking into account the the shape, size and field size then maybe the stewards are smart enough to beleive that there is an increased danger at Royal Ipswich than other roomier tracks?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 16/06/2008 12:21 PM
Bart Sinclair reports that Bruce McLachlan has recruited South African hoop Sean Cormack to ride for his stable.
First ride at Doomben on Wed.

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From: NineMSN NicknameRad55555 Sent: 17/06/2008 3:37 PM
I'm just back in Victoria after a week and a half in Queensland. Here are a few 'bits and pieces' from a visitor:
I was busy on Brisbane Cup Monday and didn't hear or see the race. I watched 3 news bulletins in the early evening and none showed the race or even discussed any racing. I have to say that that is fairly disappointing for the industry ... surely the Brissie Cup warrants a mention, particularly when the Cups King, Bart Cummings, trains the winner.
It was even more disappointing when all bulletins covered racing on Ipswich Cup day ... to cover the fall and the Mokbel / jockey relationship. It seems like the local media loves putting the boot in or covering the sensational rather than simply reporting on an important race and race day. I guess the Queensland media are not the only media that take this line. A good piece of film makes the news.
Whatever the reasoning of the media, the lack of general interest in the Cup is a bit sad .. overall the racing looks strong, gets good coverage in the Courier-Mail and has got over EI well.
I loved the changes at Eagle Farm to tart up the place and also to improve the day in the Members' enclosure. The extra space helped make the Straddie day much more enjoyable. I was amazed though that the Club expected that this day was worth another $125 for a visitor ... still, the revenue wouldn't hurt and a little less crowding doesn't hurt. It was a good day and it was great to see so many friends.
I loved the $2.70 bus trip down from near Central Station right to the Eagle Farm front gate and also the help I received from the Info Desk in Queen St in working out what I had to do to get there.
This isn't a unique issue, but I found it near enough to impossible to follow the racing while I was in Noosa. The place that I stayed at in Hastings St had an inadequate broadband solution, the phone provided a terribly slow / near useless dial up connection, the radio couldn't reach a racing station, the TV didn't have Sky or TVN and there didn't appear to be a TAB within a reasonable walk ... thank god the sun was out, the seafood was sensational and the drinks were cold.
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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 17/06/2008 3:54 PM
Rad, it was good to meet you while you were up here.
Also good to hear your opinions of what you thought of the place.
Re Noosa. I had a mate that lived up that way and I always made sure that I visited midweek as there was terrible coverage of the races on the radio.  The yuppies up there must'nt gamble  4TAB never covered that area much at all. 
  Maybe these days with the computers it might be better but without a decent connection to broadband it would still be crook.
Noosa is a nice enough area but still over rated imo. Maybe we just want to remember it as it was back 40 or 50 years ago when we used to be able to camp in a tent up there with plenty of room.  Some of those surfing spots around near the national park were fantastic.
Hope to catch up again one day Rad. Maybe down your way as my eldest boy moves to Albury  in a few weeks and when we visit him we will be popping down to Melbourne to catch up with some friends.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 17/06/2008 10:50 PM
When trotting first started in Brissie it was rare to get a MR of 2 mins.  Something this arve rated 1:53 or thereabouts.
Better tracks now, lighter and more aerodynamic sulkies, but...where will it end?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 12:08 AM
Rad
Good to see you back in Sunny Qld - well it was sunny for part of the time.  LOL.
I'll pass your comments on EF to the QTC.  On the point of the cost for the Members' Bar ticket, I gather you think $125 is too much?  (Just BTW, VRC won't let non-members into the Members' Bar at any price, I understand.)
What would you think is a fair thing to ask from people who aren't members of QTC yet want to use the Members' Bar? 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 11:37 AM
777 and Spudda...
You guys enjoyed the hospitality of the Members' Bar on Stradbroke Day.  What price would you put on it?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/06/2008 11:43 AM
I fail to see why you would pay extra to go into member's area.
Just does not interest me . 
To each their own.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 11:55 AM
Exactly...it's optional.  But some wanna go in there and are more than happy to pay.
There'd be no racecourse if it weren't for members, and they contribute a very large amount of the operational cost year in year out.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/06/2008 12:02 PM
I agree with that and I would apply for membership if I went to the track on a regular basis. Then again I would probably still just wander around the whole area.
Maybe if I was a drinker it would be different.
BTW DD, when is the next midweek meeting at EF?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 12:20 PM
Midweek at EF on 25 June and 9 July.
And all the new facilities in the members reserve are open to the public.

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From: NineMSN NicknameRad55555 Sent: 18/06/2008 12:49 PM
The cost of a guest pass is certainly an interesting issue, with lots of issues. My immediate gut feeling is that I'd have paid $50 or $60 without a thought, but would think twice beyond $100.
If you set the figure too low, many wouldn't bother to become members. If you set the number too high, then members would be more reluctant to bring guests (something I assume many enjoy doing).
If you set the figure too low, then the club is undervaluing the best day's racing of the year. If you set it too high, then you risk not exposing the day to prospective members.
If you set the number too low, then the club might run the risk of unwanted 'riff-raff' entering the inner sanctum and the enclosure becoming too crowded, reducing the enjoyment of the members. If you set the number too high, then bar sales will drop.
In fact, if you set the figure too low, then the club may lose important revenue. If you set the number too high, then the club may lose some important revenue. There are both long term and short run issues.
I remember one year when Moonee Valley set the Cox Platedaily visitor ticket price higher than the cost of buying a yearly guest badge. I guess that they were thinking about their 'elite' day and the potential for overcrowding when thinking about the Cox Plate pricing, but thinking about encouraging support and memberships during the quieter times during the year when considering the cost of the yearly guest badge.
You know, the more I think about it, I feel the club wasn't too far out ... maybe $100 would be a good number.

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From: NineMSN NicknameSpudda028 Sent: 18/06/2008 1:04 PM
Yess DD I certainly enjoyed the hospitality of the members area on Stradbroke Handicap day. The facilties are excellent, the staff are experienced and the lamb cutlets are to die for- .
However, if the tickets are purchased for a racegoer who has paid membership at another track, interstate, I would expect the reciprocal rights arrangement to be invoked and maybe a minimal entry fee if any would be applicable. But not being aware of all the details regarding Rad's payment it is difficult for me to comment. Is that on top of the $25 entry fee or is that included with a racebook or anything else? Compared to some of the marquee prices on offer for the day it is poor value as they can include food and drinks etc but there was plenty of space, lots of monitors and relatively ample tote facilites. A far cry from my last years public experience I have to say!
But if their is no reciprocval rights avail and they don't allow members form other raceclubs access at any price, then I guess $125 may not be so bad after all..... at least you get in!
On another matter, I still think that the $25 entry fee to the course is steep and may deter some people away from the track and dip into others punting money, particularly the non regular punters which always seem to flock to these days.
Coming back to the question at hand, I would have thought $75 including track entry more reasonable a fee for what was provided, but must say a thank you here to those that have provided tickets and access to members area in the past.
I will get around to joining as a member this coming financial year as I enjoy the facilities available and should be able to attend the track on a more regualr basis now that I do not have a course scheduled for Saturdays.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 1:30 PM
Thanks for taking the time to comment, guys.  Will get back later on a couple of things.

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From: Geoff Sent: 18/06/2008 1:57 PM
I've always that it counterintuitive that racegoers are charged for the opportuniy to spend money
on food and drink and lose on the punt.
But of course race clubs need cash to provide facilities.
So how about this as a thought starter?
A racegoer is given to option of buying a ticket to the Course (say $25) or $50 worth of betting vouchers.
$25 of the $50 goes to the Club and $25 to the tote or bookies depending on where the betting tickets
are redeemed.
Additional vouchers could entitle those, who are invited, to rub shoulders with their betters in the Members.
I'm sure the majority of racegoers, even the one-off ones, wouldn't begrudge the voucher options.
As an ideas man I'm not sure of the mechanics of how it would work however I'd suggest that given the
right financial inducemennt Wenona could come up with a speadsheet to get cover all eventualities.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/06/2008 2:18 PM
Don't get me wrong here as I don't mind paying $10 to get in on a midweek meeting , but they have it on the QTC site that pensioners get in for free but that is only for old age. Disability pensioners have to pay the $10.  Or this is what the young lady told me on the phone.
Fair enough and $10 is not a fortune but wonder why people discriminate against Disability Pensioners.
Cost me $3 last time I went to Doomben.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 3:10 PM
Will get back on that, gratlog.
Pleasing to see Andrew Spinks back riding after his trackwork fall a few weeks ago.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/06/2008 3:32 PM
No it's OK DD.
BTW that Sirena Ligera looked OK Might pay to remember it.
Funny thing is a mate rang to say he was backing one of Scriven's today but all I wrote down was Horse 9.  What do I do? I look at race two and see SS on Rowland Commander (H9) and backed that.
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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 5:11 PM
gratlog
I accept that you're not complaining about your personal situation (i.e. having to pay $10 to get into EF) but drawing attention to the different arrangements at Doomben, and questioning the "discrimination" against disability pensioners.
The definition of "pensioner" has changed over the years.  Traditionally it referred to an aged person who had limited assets and income to the extent that governments made regular grants for the necessities of life.  There are now various sub-categories, disability support, service pensions, etc.  Some who received allocated pensions from their super funds might also consider themselves as "pensioners", too. 
I understand major sporting venues, such as Suncorp, offer some sort of discount to pensioners and students.  This is usually 5-10 bucks off the normal price.  Race clubs are, on the face of it, more generous in granting free entry, or significant reduction in price. 
Regardless, the overall intention is to susbsidise a day at the races for those who have limited income (and I'd suggest, assets).  The challenge is to capture that group in a fair manner.  The Club would also not want to "put the person through the third degree" when they turn up at the turnstiles.  So the simpler the guidelines, the better, and that's probably the basis for the "aged pensioner" rule.
To my knowledge, "part pensioners", whether aged, or on disability support, etc, can have incomes up to $1500 a fortnight and remain eligble.  That's a reasonable amount, and would be much more than many younger people - who pay full fare at the gate - would take home from a paid job.
QTC should perhaps be more specific in their wording of admission arrangements to their course.  Would also be worth looking at applying similar "rules" at both courses in the short-term.  There certainly will be uniform arrangements when the merger occurs.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/06/2008 5:16 PM
Fair enough.
Thanks for the explanation .

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 5:34 PM
From: Geoff Sent: 18/06/2008 11:57 AM
I've always that it counterintuitive that racegoers are charged for the opportuniy to spend money
on food and drink and lose on the punt.
Geoff
With all due respect, I think you're off the beam in suggesting that racecourse attendees are there because they want to bet.  A significant portion - particularly on the "big" days - are there because they want to see a live horse race.  There are not a lot of places where ya can do that these days.
Many people go to the races and don't bet - or bet very little, having had bets before they get to the course.  There's also no compulsion to spend money on food and drink.  Free water is supplied.
Someone else commented on the size of the admission charge ($15-$25).  Well, in the 50s the Paddock admission was 12/6.  I'd work every day of the week on a milk-run or picking water melons or collecting debts for a newsagent, etc, for less than that.  In today's money 12/6 would be around $100.  Furthermore, race clubs in the past made money from betting.  Today they don't.  Finally, the costs of running a meeting today are much greater than is appreciated (by most).  Security, licence fees, RSA staff, insurance, etc....it never ends.  I think admission costs are reasonable.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 18/06/2008 5:45 PM
I don't think you would get many more at the track even if you charged $5.
With me it would cost $20 in fuel costs plus tollways of at least $10. Add $20 to get in and around $20 for tucker. That's $70 before I start losing on the punt
In saying that I still might get down to the track midweek in the future.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 5:52 PM
On the point of the Members' Bar costs...
I believe QTC's were $95 on the big days.  But if you paid entry, there's another $25.
We shouldn't forget that clubs such as AJC and VRC don't provide any Members' Bar entry to non-members on their signature days.  On the other hand, QTC provides a complimentary Members' Bar ticket to AJC and VRC members.
I think QTC would not see revenue from guest tickets as a key source of income.  However, it would believe that members should have an opportunity to bring guests into the Members' Bar (at a price).  The trick is: what to charge.  QTC members pay $220 a year in subs, and many would attend just a few times, perhaps even on the big days, only.  So the guest ticket has to be priced with that in mind, otherwise why would ya join?
It's impossible for me to put a "value" on a Straddy day in the Members' because I've been there for most of my life.  But given the facilities, proximity to horses, and quality of the forum company, I'd think $100 is about right.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 5:59 PM
gratlog
The Clubs pay lots to marketing firms to do surveys.  I think around 1000 people were polled on Straddy Day - just for participating ya got the chance to win a plasma TV.
Anyway...cost of entry is not a concern for the majority.  But, then again, if it was, they wouldn't be there.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 18/06/2008 8:54 PM
Well, in the 50s the Paddock admission was 12/6
Remember it well,3 bob was it  in the leger and 1 bob or 1/6 in the flat.
Of the 12/6 2/6 was entertainment tax When that was removed I think the entry was 10/-or $1.00 in decimal.
Intersting that members fees are only $220pa and you get two extra badges I pay just over $1000 golf club mship plus comp fees ave $10
.I think EF should be commended for giving free entry to pensioners Ascot should bring Doomben into line once the social rounds are over and he comes out of recovery.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 18/06/2008 9:52 PM
Muggins
1/- it was (10 c in decimal), and the minimum bet on the tote was 2/6 - which was really quite a large bet!  Bookies would take 2/-, if they could reach down to get it off me.  I clearly recall one day at the Creek having 4 pounds to 2/- Silver Wood.  The track was wet (penetrometer 8.54).  It walked in, and for the rest of the day I was petrified I'd lose the 4 quid.  I hid it in my sock.  I'm surprised I evn had socks to wear, but with the broken glasses around at those times, I think it was probably de rigeur.
I was reading through some old press clippings the other day, and there was an item on the planned closure of the Flat.  I think it was early 70s.  Anyway the QTC responded to the concern that there wouldn't be enough room in the Leger (when all the Flatites migrated across) by saying they'd build a mound in front of the Leger stand.  LOL.  Oh to have such problems today.
Re the Paddock admission post 1965....I don't recall it ever dropping below $1.25, but would not bet on it.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 18/06/2008 10:27 PM
One of my mates father  was a flat bookie he used to hump his port with all his gear up from Montague Rd to Hardgrave Rd and catch the tram to the city and another tram from there to the track.I went to the flat a few times but mainly to the leger before graduating to the paddock.You could be right when the tax went off they probably did keep the same price .The only problem with the leger was you were too far from the finish to be sure of what won and the crowds were so big their noise drowned out the broadcast.Those were the days when we were young.

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From: Ascot Sent: 19/06/2008 8:07 AM
The Flat was the best.  At EF you could see the finish from the post, and at the Creek you could not get any loser to the action.  Doomben was the worst as you were stuck at the 400m, but that just added to the suspense.  We always had the trannie radio to get the call of the last 100m. 

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/06/2008 12:47 PM
We always had the trannie radio to get the call of the last 100m. 
Did we, Ascot?  I'm wondering when the ban on trannies was lifted.  I recall seeing you in the Flat at AP in the early 60s with an Astor hanging around ya neck.  Even back then ya looked like ya had a future in racing.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/06/2008 5:30 PM
From all reports the broodmare sale at GC last week was a bit of a fizzer.
Golden Whistler was offered and passed in at $8000.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 19/06/2008 7:34 PM
No word on jockey PT Holmes of late.  Have we lost him?

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 19/06/2008 7:59 PM
I have'nt heard of the young fellow for some time.
A bit of useless info.
Tomorrow at Royal Ipswich there are over 40 riders being used while at Cessnock there are only around 24 or so. Bendigo there would be about 30.
Don't ask me what this means but it just struck me that there was a lot of different riders at Royal Ipswich.
I know I'm probably going a bit crazier as I get older.
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From: Ascot Sent: 21/06/2008 1:16 PM
Keith Hillier tells this tale on 927.
Dishlickers at Gold Coast during the week.  Lead dog looking good, when a duck attacks the lure mid race.  The dog snaps at the duck best it can through the muzzle.  Loses ground but still runs the place.
Stewards disqualify the dishlicker from the placings.
This is the first known happening of a greyhound dismissed for a duck in sport.

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From: vorogue Sent: 21/06/2008 5:13 PM
and a LAME duck to boot

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/06/2008 1:18 PM
Veteran Randwick trainer Les Bridge has escaped the Randwick debacle by moving north.  He has two runners at SC today.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/06/2008 10:21 PM
We were discussing the "value" of entry into the Members' Bar at a racetrack.  Financially-troubled builder Larry King apparently puts a high price on  it:
"I own the horses. I have created a syndicate and put his name on it as a friend so that he can get a ticket into the members' enclosure if he goes to the races," Mr McConville said. "He has got nothing. I am pretty sure the only thing he could own is a couple of trotters."

(From News item on adjacent thread)


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From: NineMSN Nicknamegallopers Sent: 23/06/2008 7:28 PM
dd,
  Patrick Holmes is back in Sydney riding work at Rosehill.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 23/06/2008 9:17 PM
Still on your books Gallopers or  Under new management?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/06/2008 9:28 PM
That's good, gallopers.  Hope he goes well.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/06/2008 10:06 PM
Good news that Brett Cavanough is setting up a stable in Brissie.  He has a couple of runners at EF on Wednesday.
Will be good to get back to the Farm mid-weekers again.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 25/06/2008 9:50 PM

Stewards Report – Joshua Jones

Stewards today concluded the inquiry opened into the handling of LASSIE MACTAVISH by Apprentice Joshua Jones in Race 8 at the Brisbane Turf Club on 18 June 2008.

After taking further evidence from Apprentice Jones, his master Stephen Lee and the trainer of LASSIE MACTAVISH, Kelso Wood, Stewards found Apprentice Jones guilty of the contravention of AR135(b) and (c) which reads:

“The rider of every horse shall take all reasonable and permissible measures throughout the race to ensure that his horse is given full opportunity to win or to obtain the best possible place in the field.”

Stewards found that Apprentice Jones failed in his obligation under the rule by not maintaining, as instructed by the trainer, the position, directly behind the leader LOOSE UNIT between the 1300 metre and 600 metre section of the race.

After considering submissions put forward by and on behalf of Apprentice Jones, his licence to ride in races was suspended for one (1) month commencing midnight 29 June 2008 and to expire at midnight 29 July 2008.


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From: dubbledee Sent: 27/06/2008 1:34 PM
Golden Whistler has given us plenty to talk about over the years.  She's been sold (for stud I presume).
She's a half-sister to Bareena.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 27/06/2008 8:50 PM
Tony Meany reports in today's C-M that Joshua Jones will be appealing against the decision mentioned above.
Also, Damien Oliver, who swapped a suspension for a $20,000 fine to allow him to ride Casino Prince and Viewed at EF over Stradbroke weekend is now going to appeal (to the body agreed on the deal) against the size of the fine.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 29/06/2008 4:32 PM
Oliver reportedly was successful in having the $20k fine reduced to $5k.
A new trainer-jockey team on the local scene are the Schmetzers.  Trainer Tammy and jockey Michael.
Anyone have any info on them?  They came from Riverina, I understand.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 29/06/2008 4:50 PM
Yes , I would rather be up here than where they have come from

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/06/2008 11:37 AM
Good roll-up at Eagle Farm yesterday for the RACQ Motorfest.  Congratulations to all concerned.
It's a great venue for stuff like this.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 30/06/2008 5:31 PM
Wakil has tested the patience of a few of us in Brisbane.  I notice he's turned up in Melbourne.  Hope he's not down there for a hurdling career.
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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 1/07/2008 9:40 AM
Mark Oberhardt just said on the radio that there was going to be a announcement re Brisbane racing today.
  Any guesses as to what it will be?
Maybe introducing the penotrometer to Eagle Farm

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 1/07/2008 11:04 AM
GoKarts

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From: dubbledee Sent: 1/07/2008 11:19 AM
gratlog
It's more likely that Muggins and just racing have finally said "yes" to pleas from the Racing Minister to take over running of Queensland Racing Limited - and the Brisbane Racing Club in their spare time.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 1/07/2008 12:26 PM

HA Ha  Must tell Phil


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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 1/07/2008 12:27 PM
Novelty event on wet days MUD WRESTLING

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/07/2008 10:27 PM
Plenty were wondering about "unknown" jockey Laura Herne who won the 7th on Awase Ougi at EF today.
Laura is the new wife of owner Brad Herne.  She was previously Laura Abbott.
It was Laura's first win at EF.  Nice wedding present.

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From: pin Sent: 10/07/2008 2:30 PM
What price will Rumba Jack be?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 10/07/2008 2:41 PM
Good race.  Shame that Burdekin Blues and Pride of Power are both drawn out.
Gorgeous days in Brisbane right now, but I'd be thinking Doomben would be dead on Saturday.
I'd be pricing Rumba around $2.8 right now.

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From: pin Sent: 10/07/2008 4:21 PM
I'll be happy with evens with that weight after the claim and barrier.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 11/07/2008 6:05 PM
Northern Man has just franked the Rumba form with a good win at Ippy, after being wide. Liked the $3.80 on BF the drum.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 12/07/2008 11:44 PM
I thought Rumba Jack ran a good race. It was a pretty good field and he should be more seasoned next time.

However, Burdekin Blues was the run of the race for mine without taking anything away from Abirra, who snuck under the guard of most people including me.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 13/07/2008 9:22 AM
Wonder if Amy T will keep the ride on Rumba Jack next time.
She's a great little rider but Nolan just might try someone else next time.
Good to see Scott Seamer back in form. I don't think he ever went real bad but just could'nt get the good rides.  I reckon if you stick with these better jocks, they do come good.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 13/07/2008 4:05 PM
Anyone who "knocks" Rumba on yesterday's run is a fool.  He's a wild-looking 3yo who can only improve with racing, IMO.
Was having a drink with a mate yesterday at Doomben when a well-known forumite turned up (uninvited).  "We'll get you a drink" my mate said.  "Yes, OK" was the reply, "but I won't be able to return the shout."  "No problems" said my mate.  Drinks ordered  all around.  WKF enjoys drink.  WKF then comments "I'll need to find an ATM, and then I'll buy you guys a drink."  "I can lend ya some" said I.  "Yeah, OK" says WKF.  I lent WKF $50.  WKF ducks off and isn't seen for 10 mins or so.  WKF then returns and produces two tote tickets:
Ticket 1: Syd R7 $10 Boxed Any2 of 1, 3, 6.  Cost $30. (They ran 1st, 2nd and 3rd.)
Ticket 2: Bris R7 $20 Any2 of 4, 8.  Cost $20. (They ran 1st and 2nd.)
WKF then heads to Tote, collects $248, pays me back the $50, and bought us all a drink.
Fair dinkum.....

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 13/07/2008 9:23 PM
I know how you feel dd. We had a well known forumite who was busy doing his best to drum up some business ,but did manage to throw his $50 for our usual boxed trifectas.
Came back later in the day to see we still had some $'s floating around on the table and decided to talk us into taking a banker trifecta with 3 other selections to run the place. Against better judgement (ours) we told him in no uncertain terms that we would continue to box them the same way we had been doing all day. Just as I wandered over to put our boxed trifecta on he threw me $20.00 and asked me to put his bet on which included all our numbers, only difference was he was standing one out. For his $20.00 he was given back a trifecta ticket which he had 333% of. Not only did this get up and line his pockets he still collected on our syndicate boxed trifecta as well.
Some people are just born Arsey. lol
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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 13/07/2008 9:34 PM
lol, you blokes sound like some well known newspaper reporter when he reports something like
"Who was the well known trainer who got intimate with a young stablehand?"

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From: NineMSN NicknameMonologue9 Sent: 13/07/2008 9:52 PM
lol @ gratlog......I think he moved to Victoria.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 14/07/2008 7:57 PM
Some good horses engaged at Doomben Wednesday. Looks a good program - will we be back to a good track I wonder?

Also some horses that raced in SEQ recently heading to the Jacaranda capital of NSW for the Ramornie meeting, with the likes of Blue Jupiter, Double Or Nothin', Borsha's Warrior for starters.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 14/07/2008 10:41 PM
Yes, coins.  Some handy steeds accepted for Doomben.
Desdemona, Crystal Sentinel, and  Hawk Eyed to name a few.
Track might still be soft.  Humidity remains very high and showers in the offing.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 15/07/2008 9:20 AM
Heavy fog over here this morning with showers forecast.
Maybe these have a chance tomorrow
MY KIRRA
DOOMBEN Race 1 No 4 at 12:23
and
MR HORNBLOWER
GRAFTON Race 6 No 6 at 15:28


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From: NineMSN Nicknamecoinswell Sent: 15/07/2008 6:56 PM
The Squire's sister, Miss Courtly has also accepted.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/07/2008 12:30 PM
Good news that Jim Byrne is recovering well from "torn" abdominal muscles and will be back riding at EF on Wednesday.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 21/07/2008 1:16 PM
Bart Sinclair reports in today's C-M that Queensland Racing Limited is seeking approval from industry representatives for a change to the QRL Constitution to give the current board of directors a 6-year term-of-office without challenge from other candidates.
Sinclair goes on "Then, if the State Government as expected, grants QRL a further 6 years' tenure as racing's control body, the present five-man board could easily remain in power until 2018".
It is also worth noting that some of the current QRL directors were part of the "predecessor" of QRL in 2002.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 21/07/2008 1:46 PM
Half hoping to make it to EF on Wed but as usual I never know till the day comes.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/07/2008 12:59 PM
I can think of worse ways to spend a Wednesday, gratlog.  Hope the weather holds off.
Some interest snippets on Brisbane racing were posted by The Ear in yesterday's C-M:
The first race meeting in Brisbane was at Coorparoo in 1843, although he says the first "reported" meeting was at New Farm in 1846.
The first EF meeting was on 14 August, 1856.  (I didn't attend because I was too young.)
The first Tatt's meeting was at EF on 10 December, 1884.  (I missed that one too due to Boy Scouts.)
The first Qld horse to win a southern classic was Wheatear in the 1881 AJC Derby.  Ben Bolt won the Caulfield Cup in 1884.
The first report of bookies at a meeting was Ipswich in 1854.
The first tote was at Ipswich in 1878.
Ambulances have been used at Qld tracks since 1885.
The photo finish was used for the first time at EF on 9 October 1948. (Missed that because my Mum had no clean nappies for me.)

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 22/07/2008 6:30 PM
A little more information on  the proposed change to QRL  Constitution
From QRL 2007 Annual Report.
QUEENSLAND RACING LIMITED

This financial year saw the Queensland

Thoroughbred Racing Board cease as the

continuing control body for thoroughbred

racing, and Queensland Racing Limited (QRL)

commence.

This new structure ensures the racing industry

with a strong future, and also provides new

opportunities for thoroughbred racing in

Queensland, while continuing to ensure

probity, integrity and public confidence in the

industry.

The Constitution of QRL provides for 2 classes

of Members, these being:

• Class A Members, and

• Class B Members

Class A Members consist of:

• Metropolitan TAB Clubs

• Other Tab Clubs

• The Queensland Country Racing Committee

• The Australian Trainers’ Association

(Queensland Branch)

• The Thoroughbred Breeders’ Association of

Queensland

• The Thoroughbred Racehorse Owners’

Association of Queensland

• The Queensland Jockeys’ Association Inc

• The Queensland Bookmakers’ Association

The above listed Class A Members have the

right to appoint Member representatives – in

total there are 13 Member representatives. The

Class A Member representatives are:

• Mr Tony Williams

• Mr Graham Milligan

• Mr Bill Millican

• Mr Justin Doyle

• Mr Michael Paramor

• Mr Neville Stewart

• Mr Tony Fitzgerald

• Mr Gary Peoples

• Mr Pat Duff

• Mr Bob Frappell

• Mr Wayne Millner

• Mr Richard Pratt

• Mr Bob McHarg

The Board of QRL consists of 5 Directors,

these being the Class B Members. In essence,

there is no change between the Board

members of the Queensland Thoroughbred

Racing Board and the Board of Directors of

QRL.

The Directors are:

• Mr Robert Bentley, Chairman

• Mr Anthony Hanmer, Deputy Chairman

• Mr Michael Lambert

• Mr William Andrews

• Mr William Ludwig

The Constitution of QRL is based on best

corporate governance principles and has been

tailored to suit the Queensland thoroughbred

racing industry. The Constitution complies

with the requirements of the Act and the

Corporations Act 2001.

There is a previous thread on this somewhere with comment on the desirability or otherwise of  approving the extensions being sought.From memory Bart Sinclair's writings didn't favour the change. I think he referred to Chairman Benley's colleagues as "a compliant Board"


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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 22/07/2008 6:32 PM
Question
Which of the above named represents rank and file racegoers or punters?

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From: dubbledee Sent: 22/07/2008 7:26 PM
Muggins
You will find there have been some changes to the make-up of the Class A reps due to new members on race club boards, etc.
It could be that punters are well represented.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMuggins136 Sent: 22/07/2008 8:09 PM
Thanks for that how about listing them so know who they are.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 23/07/2008 9:01 AM
I'm sure QRL can provide you with such info, Muggins.
All I know is that they've recruited a new guy on the basis of a glowing CV that was submitted.  He's gonna look after:
Track maintenance
Raceday facilities
Food and Beverage
Stewards
Sectional Times
Jockeys
Veterinary Services
and as a bonus, all Board members will be given some super-dooper tips.
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