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Author Topic: Overdose - Hungarian superstar!  (Read 6574 times)
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Original Post 2008-Nov-27, 08:12 PM

There has been little said on racing forums across the globe about the undefeated Hungarian wonderhorse Overdose. That's no surprise given the racing backwater he hails from and the fact that Overdose is yet to secure a Gr1 victory. Many will see this horse for the first time in 2009 if he heads to the UK as expected for races like the King's Stand.

Some may have seen Overdose on Arc day 2008 in the false start Prix de l'Abbaye. He was the one that sped off in front and was never pulled up when Fleeting Spirit was left in the stalls. Naturally after those exertions Overdose was unable to take part in the re-run hours later. Some visual comparisons between the no race and the re-run farce suggest Overdose would have beaten Marchand D'or that day. Things just didn't go right for the Hungarian in France. Overdose seemed doomed from the moment he stepped onto the Longchamp track with an official idiot getting in his path and being bowled over by the three year old on his way to the gates.

A bit over a month after the Abbaye debacle Overdose turned up in Rome for a Gr3 six furlong race. He took that with ease and was basically in another stratosphere to the opposition. The runner up was around ten lengths adrift that day after being defeated by just under six lengths in the Abbaye re-run.

Overdose has built up a small fanclub online through YouTube. One individual has put together some early racing clips with music. Those races show the lightyear between Overdose and his central European opponents. Watch for the regular muck lather on Overdose who obviously suffers from white line fever. He almost always breaks out between the mounting yard and the starting gates. I can't wait to see this fellow next year as he puts his undefeated status on the line. Form is hard to track down in places like Bratislava but it has been suggested that Overdose remains unbeaten after twelve starts ( It could be more ).

For the compilation piece click on the YouTube link below. You wont see many 1000-1200m races with such a big space between the leader and the rest in your lifetime.



To view the last victory in Rome go to the Cappanelle website, scroll the date for the results down to 16-11-2008 and click "vai". When the result pop up appears click on the film icon next to race three "3 15:45 C. E F. Aloisi (ex Umbria)" and watch the flying machine go!

http://www.capannelleippodromo.it/risultati.php

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2008-Nov-27, 08:36 PM

This might seem like a dumb question as I know bugger all about racing outside of Aussie.

What I was just wondering is , what is the story on quarantine laws when they travel around Europe ?
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Hillbilly
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2008-Nov-27, 08:41 PM

There's very little to worry about in that regard Grats. Most countries couldn't stop a goat wandering over the border anyway. Horses travel fairly freely across European borders throughout the season. You'll see UK runners in places like Turkey, Italy, France, Germany, Sweden and Czechoslavakia every week during the flat season.
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2008-Dec-04, 12:29 AM

Wow, that was great to watch. Unbelievable.
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shaun
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2008-Dec-04, 04:26 PM

Hmmm....not convinced.
pity there aren't any pole markers so we can at least do a hand time from the video.
bit like the Melb cup fav' this year coming out here off a 13 length win over maidens and made fav for the cup only to run where?
i'll back Takeover Target or Apache Cat over him any day...at the moment,but,interesting viewing just the same,thanks.
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2008-Dec-04, 04:35 PM

without doubt one of the fastest horses you will ever see .....

I'm still not recovered after the no race on Arc day but he'll keep ...
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2008-Dec-04, 06:03 PM

Hard to tell on that video,

But looks to have a huge stride .... any chance of getting any times and stats for that race Hilly ?
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2008-Dec-04, 06:49 PM

Quite a few local video clockers in Europe have put him down as breaking the course record in the no race at Longchamp ( Gr1 Abbaye ). As a hold up horse Apache Cat may have some hope against him but I'd give old TT no chance. This fellow looks to be effective on any type of ground as well.

I understand what you're saying Shaun. This horse has some form to compare against the best in Europe this season. The form from the Irish Leger was nowhere near a European peak. The weight carried by Septimus and the support for him in the MC was a joke. In fact it was pure guess work by the VRC handicapper in the first place hence no re handicap after the Irish success. I posted extensively on the matter on another forum. That said I'd like to see how close Viewed could get to Septimus on his home ground at level weights. I fear Viewed would be embarrassed as much as the Coolmore runner was at Flemington ( with or without the atrocious riding display ).

I can only repeat the one form reference that can be lined up in any way Magic:

A bit over a month after the Abbaye debacle Overdose turned up in Rome for a Gr3 six furlong race. He took that with ease and was basically in another stratosphere to the opposition. The runner up was around ten lengths adrift that day after being defeated by just under six lengths in the Abbaye re-run.

I just hope Overdose turns up in top form next season to show us all what he's really capable of.
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2008-Dec-04, 07:16 PM

i hope you are right.
as i said,looks interesting and always good to get the early mail,thanks.
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2008-Dec-05, 10:52 AM

TVN did a program on him.  He looks pretty impressive.  Let's face it, any horse that wins any race by 12 lengths is something to consider.  Overdose has, apparently made horse racing more popular over in Hungary.  Good luck to connections and hope the underdog rules in Royal Ascot.

Also looked up the website Hillbilly listed, it was a heavy track and 'separation' (margins) were 10 lengths and time was around 70 seconds flat, impressive time considering heavy track/
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2008-Dec-10, 05:50 AM

I believe he carried 65 kilograms in his Group 3 win in Rome the other day.

I will not rate him until his 4 year old season, when he does race against the best in the UK.

Saying that Takeover Target has no chance against him is a bit harsh.  Considering one horse has only managed to front up to Group 2 races at the best, whilst another has happily waltzed his way across England, Singapore, Japan and Australia winning Group 1 races at WFA.

Not mention the horse is yet to meet Apache Cat and Sacred Kingdom..............
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2008-Dec-11, 07:26 PM

I stand 100% behind my comment that Takeover Target would have no hope against Overdose. The pair would absolutely cut each other to shreds up front. Whatever beats Overdose wont be sitting on his girth or in his slipstream either. It will be something that sits back and smokes the pipe early. Let's not forget that Takeover Target is now a racing geriatric.

We can either watch racing like sheep and continually bow to the reigning stars or we can look to the future and see what's emerging. I've made my choice and am happy with it. I don't need to see a horse race the best in the world to rate it. Each to their own. Overdose has emerged from a racing wilderness. It's an exciting story - Not unlike the tale of Takeover Target.
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2008-Dec-11, 07:43 PM

BTW two horses who have been well held by Overdose go round in the HK sprint on the weekend. Let's see how far they get beaten there.
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2008-Dec-22, 04:56 PM

When you look at the respectable performances of both Marchand D'Or and Abbadjinn, it would have been interesting to see how Overdose would have gone in Hong Kong.
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2008-Dec-22, 05:03 PM

Whats his breeding?
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