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Original Post 2009-Jan-06, 05:06 PM

Hi all

This is my first post. what

I backed Cavan Dancer, R5 Wyong today and thought it won convincingly by a length, but, protest upheld. 

JT on SKY said "head on is not available for viewing" so I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on whether the stewards were correct in their decision.
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2009-Jan-07, 11:11 AM

the ANGLES DONT CHANGE THE INTERFERANCE MATE, NO DISREPECT TO YA MATE, BUT FAIR DINKUM
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2009-Jan-07, 11:16 AM

I have seen horses cause more interference and win by a lip and not lose the race.

From the side on angle i was and am very very surprised they upheld it.

I am not disputing the interference.

Wily comparing it to The Villiers takes the cake.
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2009-Jan-07, 11:21 AM

FAIR ENOUGH,BUT THE STEWARDS RULE ON
 IF THE HORSE WOULD OF WON HAD IT NOT SUFFERED THE INTERFERANCE AND  IM SURE HAD THAT NOT HAVE HAPPENED THE
2ND HORSE DOES BEAT IT, BUT LOOK MATE IM NO STEWARD AND I
RESPECT YOUR OPINION,
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I did see the head on and it was worse. Thumb Up

In the Villiers Honor in War didn't have to check abruptly or change course very much at all

the 2nd horse in this case was stopped dead in it's tracks and the jock was up in the irons.
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2009-Jan-07, 06:59 PM

Where did you see the head on, nobody has shown it on the home channels ?
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2009-Jan-07, 07:22 PM

I'm sure I  saw about 15 minutes after the race on either sky or tvn


Maybe I'm delirious because I didn't expect to collect biggrin
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2009-Jan-08, 04:32 PM

Bloody hell mad

It appears that I've been debating something we agreed on.

Went to collect my cavan dancer. I was told the protest was dismissed lol

Ouch, no collect for wily and plenty of confusion.


just to clarify, it was rightfully upheld........much to my detriment Sad
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From: NineMSN NicknameLuskin_Star©(Original Message) Sent: 26/01/2008 4:51 PM
For all discussions pertaining to protests.
Remember, when a protest is upheld, the loser in the protest is placed behind the successful protestor.
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2009-Jan-27, 10:41 AM

Has anyone got a comment on the protest at Doomben? what King Leonidas.

I saw the head on and it looked clear cut. PROTEST UPHELD. But no it wasn't. what

There was severe intimidation and a brush, it should have been enough.

Was it a matter of Cassidy out talking the kid? what
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From: j.r.b. Sent: 26/01/2008 6:23 PM
The protest on the last at the GC will be upheld for sure.
I haven't seen the interference and I don't need to.
All I need to know is that I'm on the first past the post at 12/1 on betfair, and that's the sort of day I'm having.

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From: arakaan Sent: 26/01/2008 6:29 PM
Ray Murrihy would uphold it.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 26/01/2008 6:50 PM

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From: NineMSN NicknameSpudda028 Sent: 26/01/2008 7:55 PM
JRB I was on Mr Mojito too with a guy next to me taking the tri straight out with LTBR to win. He threw his ticket away and i mentioned to him might be a protest & to maybe hang on to it.
 He watched the replay and thought it was the other horse on the inside that caused the interference not Mr M. And what do you know protest upheld and he collects, I lose!

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From: arakaan Sent: 26/01/2008 7:57 PM
they showed the head on spudda. definately a shft from the outside horse. Unlike the Takeover Target one the 2nd horse was actually in and entitled to the run in this one.

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From: arakaan Sent: 28/01/2008 3:08 PM
wonder if Matt watched race 4 in sydney.

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From: NineMSN NicknameLuskin_Star© Sent: 28/01/2008 5:25 PM
Arakaan, I was most surprised there was no protest in that race. The winner definitely cut across in front of Emperator, taking his running. However despite Emperator running the winner to a nose, alas, no protest.

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From: arakaan Sent: 28/01/2008 5:28 PM
Indeed. Identical actions by the lead horse to one a few weeks ago. I Wonder what Ray was doing or was he asleep or just not enough media around today.
By the way both winners deserved to stay winners.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGunstan Sent: 28/01/2008 5:28 PM
why didn't Murrihy protest on behalf of the connections?
he is on the public record for defending the TOT protest.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMullerbeck Sent: 2/02/2008 3:25 PM
Hard to see any more trivial protest the one in Sydney in race 4. From head on, the runner up was shifting in, although horses were never closer than 1 m apart. Looks like young Kody Nestor will be fined for trivial protest.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 2/02/2008 3:28 PM
Looks that way.

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From: The Carnegie Express Sent: 2/02/2008 3:30 PM
I give up. TT should never have been upheld and this should not have been dismissed. Corruption is rife in Sydney racing.

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From: arakaan Sent: 2/02/2008 3:32 PM
TCE if you think that bump at the 350m made any difference stop punting.
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From: The Carnegie Express Sent: 2/02/2008 3:36 PM
and if you think the TT protest should be upheld do the same champ.

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From: arakaan Sent: 2/02/2008 3:39 PM
you might want to go read what I said on the race thread for TT and get back to me.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 2/02/2008 3:43 PM
If there is a lip in it i do not see how any interferance can not affect the result.

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From: The Carnegie Express Sent: 2/02/2008 4:06 PM
I agree Matt. I thought there was no chance it would be dismissed as had the bump not happened then TOH wins. It was only a nose so the bump was extremely important.

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From: arakaan Sent: 2/02/2008 4:13 PM
if the bump didn't happen element wins by further than a nose. It was cost more by the bump the TOH ever was.
stewards finally get one right.

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From: The Carnegie Express Sent: 2/02/2008 4:17 PM
I don't think so. The bump pushes TOH out.

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From: arakaan Sent: 2/02/2008 4:20 PM
TCE,
TOH never loses balance or ground and accelerates straight past element after the bump because of this.
It would have never got the neck infront had element run striaght from the 400m and it would have lost by more than 1/2 length.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 2/02/2008 4:25 PM
That is your opinion Arakaan it is NOT fact.
The FACT is he caused interference to another runner. How much wind did that bump nock out of the runner up ?

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From: arakaan Sent: 2/02/2008 4:29 PM
Matt,
If you think a horse with the wind knocked out of him accelerates immediately like TOH did straight after the bump, I've got an Opera House to sell you. Has great views.
Wouldn't you love to have Matt on a jury. You be tried and committted before you walked in the door.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 2/02/2008 4:39 PM
No mate, for a thinker your really not thinking.
If he has had little wind nocked out of him ( who knows how much ? ) it may explain the fact that Element was able to fight back on the inside. If however the bump never occured perhaps PERHAPS  Ten Of hearts may have gone 3 or 4 lengths in front. What i am doing here Mr Thinker is speculating what may of may not have happened.
The FACTS are that Element interfered with Ten Of Hearts they are the facts. How much it cost either horse if any is speculation and or OPINION.

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From: arakaan Sent: 2/02/2008 4:52 PM
btw Matt did you see this race last mon.
From: arakaan Sent: 28/01/2008 3:08 PM
wonder if Matt watched race 4 in sydney.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 2/02/2008 4:58 PM
No, i did not see that race, i saw the comment.

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From: navajo Sent: 3/02/2008 2:03 PM

I backed Ten of Hearts yesterday and in my opinion he was just out ridden by a more experienced jockey

RACE 4: - Rosehill Gardens Grand Pavilion Handicap 1200m

On return to scale, an objection was lodged by Apprentice K Nestor, rider of second placegetter,

Ten Of Hearts against Element (J Lloyd) being declared the winner alleging interference near the

300m. After taking evidence from the parties and viewing the videos, the stewards dismissed the

objection when they found that, whilst at the 300m Element shifted out, inconveniencing Ten Of

Hearts, bearing in mind Ten Of Hearts later in the straight headed Element and had full

opportunity to win, they were not of the view that the incident at the 300m had a material effect on

the relevant finishing positions of the respective horses. At the 300m Cresta Run had to be check

when disappointed for a run between Blessus and Testimonial, which shifted out. Cresta Run

then shifted back to the inside of Testimonial to improve and then again had to be steadied near

the 50m when on the heels of Clevergaze. The whip of Apprentice M Beadman (Eight Moons)

was accidently knocked from his grasp by the whip of B Shinn (Boncoeur) passing the 200m. A

post race veterinary examination of Eight Moons did not reveal any abnormality.


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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 3/02/2008 3:15 PM
bearing in mind Ten Of Hearts later in the straight headed Element and had full

opportunity to win, they were not of the view that the incident at the 300m had a material effect on

the relevant finishing positions of the respective horses.

DUMB.
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From: NineMSN NicknameGunstan Sent: 3/02/2008 7:55 PM
AMAZING!
the stipes got it right for a change.
how a horse can hit the front and then fold up like a "ten of hearts" lol, and then protest under the guise of a weakening "heart" had me laughing.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 3/02/2008 7:58 PM
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From: arakaan Sent: 9/02/2008 3:22 PM
another horse about to be rewarded in Sydney for not having tactical speed.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamevedder_69 Sent: 9/02/2008 3:25 PM
Can't possibly be upheld.......I hope?

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From: NineMSN NicknameLuskin_Star© Sent: 9/02/2008 3:28 PM
If Cape Breton does get the protest over Vision & Power, then the can of worms is well and truely opened. I reckon CB simply died on its run and wasn't good enough to run down the leader. They certainly did not touch at any time in the straight.

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From: wily Sent: 9/02/2008 3:28 PM
Sorry Vedder but this HAS to be upheld.
It's no different in anyway to the race they took off Takeover target.
They delivered the wrong decision then and they HAVE to do it today to keep their integrity

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From: NineMSN NicknameGunstan Sent: 9/02/2008 3:31 PM
agree wily.

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From: arakaan Sent: 9/02/2008 3:32 PM
We'll see how Ray and his panel goes without the media to get his face on.

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From: arakaan Sent: 9/02/2008 3:35 PM
well, well, well. no media and dismissed. I could act shocked but I'm not a good actor.
the whole panel is a sham.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGunstan Sent: 9/02/2008 3:37 PM
unbelievable????

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/02/2008 3:43 PM
I couldn't see any grounds.  They didn't touch did they?

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From: wily Sent: 9/02/2008 3:48 PM
DD, Takeover didn't touch Honour in War either.
Disgusting double standars but I've come to expect that from this lot

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From: arakaan Sent: 9/02/2008 3:48 PM
Neither did TT and Honor in War. That wasn't important that day with all the bright lights present.

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From: dubbledee Sent: 9/02/2008 3:55 PM
No, but the allegation was that TOT took the other horse's running.  Nothing like that in this race.

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From: arakaan Sent: 9/02/2008 4:01 PM
DD, Cape Breton was as far behind as HIW was when the leaders shift in the respective races.
TT was penlised because a 3rd horse didn't allow HIW to get out and let the jockey escape for his piss poor ride.
We might as well be being run by some young hollywood starlet.
let's just hope we never see Ray not wearing underwear getting out of a car.
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From: wily Sent: 9/02/2008 4:08 PM
DD
Cape B had established the run when the other thing started to drift.
He was as far away and in the clear as HIW was.
Joe must be filthy.......I pharking hell am

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From: Bubble Sent: 9/02/2008 4:28 PM
Absolutely spot on Arakaan and Wily
The only reason TT lost his race is because there was a tired horse outside him. At the time I said that if that horse was not there then HIW would have the whole track to get past TT. That was shown exactly in this race.
I still can't work out how TT lost because he had a tired horse outside him.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 9/02/2008 5:25 PM
I don't understand why people get into a pickle over these things, so they have a different OPINION to you so be it, thats what makes the world go around.
OPINION.

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Wouldn't the margin have been a factor today?

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Matt,
Your post is silly. Of course it is their opinion and that is what we are debating. This is a forum where people share opinions. This whole industry that we are debating is built on opinion.
It is my opinion that Redoutes Choice colt is worth $3 million. It is my opinion that the 5/2 offered for Might and Power is great value. It is my opinion that Makybe Diva will win this Melbourne Cup so I will back her.
You think that She's Archie will win the Melbourne Cup and one of us might be right so let's debate it up until the race and then let's debate our opinion on how the race was run, how the track played, how the jockeys performed and how the stewards completely stuffed up that decision.
This is a forum. This is where it happens.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 10/02/2008 5:05 PM
Unlike your good self i do not believe races should be decided on OPINION they should be decided on FACTS.
If a horse causes interference it should be relegated behind the horse/s it interferes with.

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From: Geoff Sent: 10/02/2008 5:42 PM
Yeah, but "facts" are only "opinions".
What I think is a "fact", what you think is only an opinion unless it coincides with what I think in which case it is also a fact.

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From: NineMSN NicknameBundynVain Sent: 10/02/2008 5:45 PM
Protest!!

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Go Geoff ! move up to the dress circle

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From: dubbledee Sent: 11/02/2008 6:58 PM
The "controversial" Rosehill protest didn't even rate a mention on Retro.
Was there any discussion in the print media?  Or was it all a storm in a forum teacup?
Looked at the replay and head-on again.  Dismissal was the only option, IMO.

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I just like to see consistency from Hollywood Ray.

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ARB BREAKS NEW GROUND

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The Australian Racing Board will break new ground if it adopts a proposal to include a panel of independent observers to assist stewards in deciding protest decisions. Whilst a spokesperson for the ARB refused to confirm or deny the report, insiders say the Board is concerned at the depth of public criticism following recent  protest decisions by stewards.

The Take Over Target protest in Sydney generated much debate with many experts disputing the decision to uphold the protest. Insiders say that the Board wants to put procedures in place to avoid such out pourings in future. Establishing a select expert group in each state jurisdiction to assist the stewards in reaching their decisions will be on the agenda.Support for this approach is believed to have come from the forthcoming Australia 2020 summit called by the Prime Minister.

It is believed a number of expert commentators from Internet horse racing forums have been tagged for their experience and objectivity. Those selected to be considered for appointment will be subject to passing probity and other checks. It is understood the positions will be honorary but appointees will receive reasonable expenses and be issued with badges to enter all enclosures. They will be breathalysed and drug tested before taking up duty each day and must not bet at the meetings they officiate at.


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They will be breathalysed and drug tested
If this happened before you were allowed to post , there would'nt be half the traffic that this forum gets
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They will be breathalysed and drug tested
If this happened before you were allowed to participate in board meetings, there would'nt be half the traffic that this forum gets

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From: NineMSN NicknameGunstan Sent: 16/02/2008 4:27 PM
Stanzout takes Damiens running.....upheld....maybe.lol

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From: arakaan Sent: 16/02/2008 4:33 PM
G1 race. Ray would be salivating.

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From: vorogue Sent: 1/03/2008 2:07 PM
the person that had 20 large on Blake to win the jockeys challenge today at something like $1.24 must be a tad nervous after the 3's on pop Montana Flyer earned no points, , and now not only did Sliding Cube get rolled, but there's a protest 5th Vs 2nd thats got a big hope of being upheld and Cube going back to 5th instead of 2nd, was one hell of a bump

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From: vorogue Sent: 1/03/2008 2:16 PM
he's still alive......Dismissed

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 1/03/2008 4:02 PM
What about this one at Randwick race 6?

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From: arakaan Sent: 1/03/2008 4:08 PM
it's a strange one grats. I've forgotten that protests could involve horses that actually touch each other.
I'll go upheld.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 1/03/2008 4:09 PM
Yep, you are probably right as I stand to win a few bob if it is dismissed

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 27/04/2008 9:36 PM
Interesting protest in Hong Kong.
Can not get any closer then that finish.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 27/04/2008 9:38 PM
Protest - DISMISSED

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From: vorogue Sent: 17/05/2008 6:53 PM
last in bris, El Cambio is the winner at odds on, but likely to lose on protest...looks bad head on

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From: wily Sent: 17/05/2008 6:54 PM
I hope you're right VO
I had a dabble on the 2nd horse and boxed the tri

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From: wily Sent: 17/05/2008 7:03 PM
They have to be kidding don't they
Clearly your allowed to knocked down a horse, never straighten you mount and no consideration is given to how much ground the loser was cost by being knocked down
Crap decision

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From: NineMSN NicknameLuskin_Star© Sent: 17/05/2008 7:04 PM
U woz robbed, wily 
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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 7:06 PM
Opinions, don't ya just love em.

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From: wily Sent: 17/05/2008 7:12 PM
I'm staggered by the decision luskin.
That was one hell of a bump atleast 50 metres before the post

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From: vorogue Sent: 17/05/2008 7:17 PM
it's a mystery to me how it kept the race

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 7:18 PM
There is only one reason required - OPINION.

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From: wily Sent: 17/05/2008 7:24 PM
Reasoned opinion, of course

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From: NineMSN NicknameGrega9430 Sent: 17/05/2008 7:54 PM
Commisserations to anyone that backed the second horse but he would not have beaten El Cambio if the interference did not occur, El Cambio was finishing better than it.
Correct interpretation of the Australian Rule and correct decision.
Our Australian rule is which horse was going to win the race if the interference did not occur, and I agree with it. Basically it is irrelevant how much ground the interference costs the losing horse.
I know that a few people will disagree with this. Don't protests get the emotions running.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 8:27 PM
How much ground did Helideck cost Antidotes ?

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From: wily Sent: 17/05/2008 8:38 PM
Greg
Not sure if the rule is that simple.
In order to avoid the interferrance a rider has to stop riding and straighten his mount.
If he had bothered to do that PRIOR to the bashing EC would have lost atleast a neck in distance and momentum.
Aso, by being pushed in 3by about 3 horses you could assume that MR U lost atleast a neck compared to if he was allowed to travel in a straight line, as he was

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 8:45 PM
In order to avoid the interferrance a rider has to stop riding and straighten his mount.
If he had bothered to do that PRIOR to the bashing EC would have lost atleast a neck in distance and momentum.
For as long as we have been argueing protests on this forum i have said this and 99% of the time i am howled down.

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From: wily Sent: 17/05/2008 8:47 PM
Great minds matt, great minds.
It's a fact and it's clearly lost on the idiot stewards in this case

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 8:55 PM
Did you agree with the Planchet Vs Choisir protest dicision ?

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 9:47 PM
Race 6: DARLEY BTC SPRINT - 1350m
1st - Helideck 2nd - Absolut Glam 3rd - Mr Hornblower 4th - Mr Baritone

MR BARITONE (S. Arnold) and DAUNTING LAD (S. Seamer) raced wide throughout.

ABSOLUT GLAM (S. King) was held up rounding the home turn and in the early stages of the straight.

Stewards adjourned an inquiry into the reasons for L. Nolen being dislodged from ANTIDOTES passing the 200m. As a result of the fall, LAURA'S CHARM (M. Paget), HARD TO CATCH (B. Stewart) and ATAPI (J. Byrne) were all hampered.

A post-race veterinary examination of ATAPI failed to reveal any abnormalities.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 9:47 PM
Was that all caused by the winner ?

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From: NineMSN Nicknameqwertyu1234567 Sent: 17/05/2008 10:00 PM
Flash back of STARSTRUCK
running past PINDI years ago
like it was nailed, brushing with
20m to go beating it about a half.
However on that occasion Upheld.
Cost me a heap

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From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 17/05/2008 10:21 PM
29 Oct 1994 1/17 0.0 2500 G2HCP FLEM A MATTHEWS 1 50.5 1 155.7 PINDI
If Starstrucks jockeys stopped riding as he is required to do would she have cruised on by and won by the nose that  was the margin in which "won' as she past the post ?
Why do people NEVER take into account the momentum lost by a jockey who should be stopping and straightening his mount ?
WHY ?
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