Racehorse TALK

The scale of deduction should relate back to a 120% market.If the market % at the time of scratching is 240% the deduction should be 50% of the present scale of deductions.

The problem is that at the time of a scratching,particularly at provincial tracks,the % could be in excess of 200%.Some 6x1 chances early in betting are in reality 20x1 chances at post time.Stewards then rule a !6% deduction ,when the true ruling should be 5%.This is where the punter is getting touched.

Could not agree more.Try telling that to most racing officials.Ask them about betting %,you get a blank stare.

A good point that you make DD, cos at the time you made the bet you (presumably) were happy with the price.  It is rather frustrating cos the TAB will argue that their could have been a deluge of money for some other runner in that race which adversely affects the market.

People will know plenty more than me on this, but does the TAB have to keep its market between a certain percentage at all times?

No word from the brains trust at the ARB......... still mulling it over in private ............... ........although Ray Murrihy  recently interviewed by Steve Hewlitt indicated it's ready for release.

Possibly requires some tick of approval from Governments if State Racing Acts require any amendment and unless done by Regulation will be delayed until Parliaments resume in the new year.

FInally got an answer in the form of email attachments which is beyond my limited ability to post in intelligible form.

Not having had the chance to go into the detail provided fully it looks like what we'll get is the  market % will be restored to what it was before the scratching.

No change to the punters' stake being excluded like the UK scheme.

Have sought help from the MAN to post for all to see.

R1 at EF on Saturday had 2 late scratchings#2 Tax Evader 6.5 was withdrawn at the barrier and #4 Craiglea Romeo 15 was declared a non runner after the race.

Stewards ruleddeductions of 14c win and 13c place to begin with but after the second one came out the deductions were 20c win and 13c place.

Race  1      2Y HCP     Distance:  1300 metres     Track:  Dead     Time:  1-18.65     Sectional:  600/35.31     Margins:  Head x 1 3/4 Len     
 1   Kahui   7   1   54.5      J Taylor   Pat Duff   $32000   $21000    $3.20  Jet Spur   Tessa Bianca (NZ) 
 2   Miss Leibert   10   7   53.5      P Hammersley   Tony Gollan   $10000   $6000   0.2   $21   Falvelon   Stravain Lady 
 3   True Blitz   3   2   56.5      D Browne   Ray McCall   $5000   $3000   2.0   $2.70F  Ferocity   Coolataq 
 4   Avgas   14   3   53.5      R Wiggins   David Murphy   $2000      3.0  $71  Shovhog   Rawing Trade 
 5   Flammable   1   6   57   - 2.0   Michael Palmer   Mark F Webb   $1000    3.2    $6.50   Ferocity   Enlightenment (USA) 
 6   Class of Gold   13   4   53   - 1.0   L P Rolls   John Wallace         4.0  $31          7   Bevico Girl   11   5   53      B El-Issa   Robert Heathcote         4.3   $5       
 8   Black Banner   12   8   53      J Holder   David Peoples         11.0  $201          SB   Craiglea Romeo   4   3   56      K Wharton   Peter Fleming                   
 SB   Tax Evader   2   4   56.5   - 3.0   N Yamada   Michael Nolan                   
 SCR   Dana Prince   5   2   55.5      C Munce   Tony Crane                   
 SCR   Hopefully   9   14   53.5      A Best   Mark F Webb                   
 SCR   Macca's Express   8   11   54.5         Michael Nolan                   
 SCR   Stag   15   10   53      M Hellyer   Robert Bradshaw                   
 SCR   Windsplitter   6   9   55      J Bowditch   Noel J Doyle 
                 
 Trying to compare the above with would be the case when the new algorythmn system outlined earlier comes in is too big a headache for me as the market shown on the TV monitors before the #2 was scratched was 124%  but applying the new system  with the 2 deductions  I worked out the market to be 151%........surely that can't be right.

If Grega is around he might know better.