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Original Post 2009-Mar-04, 07:30 AM

Where is a market for the Derby

for that matter where is a market for the randwick guineas

1- DAVID JONES AJC AUSTRALIAN DERBY (2400 METRES)

Of $1600000 and $12700 trophies. 1st $960000 and trophies of $11700 to owner $500 to trainer $500 to jockey, 2nd $304000, 3rd $152000, 4th $72000, 5th $40000, 6th $24000, 7th $24000, 8th $24000.

Starter Subsidy: $200 for non-prize earning runners.

For Three-Years-Old. Set Weights. (GROUP 1).

No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 18 + 4 EM

No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
Rating
1 CONISTON BLUEBIRD Bede Murray Scott Seamer 13 56.5 98
2 METAL BENDER (NZ) Jack Denham Danny Nikolic 14 56.5 104
3 ROCK KINGDOM Gai Waterhouse Craig Williams 12 56.5 95
4 SOUSA (NZ) Peter Snowden Kerrin McEvoy 1 56.5 97
5 DR DOUTE'S Mark Kavanagh Michael Rodd 10 56.5 97
6 PREDATORY PRICER Paul Murray Glyn Schofield 8 56.5 90
7 PRE EMINENCE Mick Price Craig Newitt 6 56.5 96
8 BUFFETT (NZ) Danny O'Brien Damien Oliver 3 56.5 83
9 HARRIS TWEED (NZ) Murray & Bjorn Baker Hugh Bowman 2 56.5
10 BIG COL Peter Gelagotis Chris Munce 5 56.5
11 ROMAN EMPEROR (NZ) Bart Cummings Jim Cassidy 16 56.5 71
12 GIGINO (NZ) Chris Waller Peter Robl 11 56.5 68
13 OLD JOCK (NZ) John Sargent Corey Brown 15 56.5 75
14 NAVAL ESCORT (NZ) David Payne 4 56.5 63
15 SMART CHOICE Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes 7 56.5
16 BUCCANEERS PRIZE (NZ) David Payne 9 56.5 62
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2009-Mar-04, 02:20 PM

Not quite what you were after.  smiley

Orca's unorthodox road to Derby
Tuesday, 3 March 2009:

Guy Walter is taking an unorthodox path to the AJC Australian Derby with Orca who runs in a restricted race at Randwick on Saturday.

While many other Derby aspirants will be in the Randwick Guineas (1600m) a week later before going on to the Rosehill Guineas (2000m) on March 28, Walter believes that is less than ideal.

The Warwick Farm trainer said he believed the demise of the Canterbury Guineas over 1900 metres in favour of the Randwick feature meant the staying three-year-olds did not get the necessary preparation for the 2400m Classic on April 11.

"Since they abandoned the Canterbury Guineas it is a very poor progression of distances," Walter said.

"Orca will run over 1600 metres, then go to an 1800-metre race in preparation for the Rosehill Guineas and the Derby."

Although he is still a maiden, Orca showed his promise in the Melbourne spring with his third to Whobegotyou in the Group Two AAMI Vase (2040m) which followed a close second to Sarem over 1600m at Caulfield.

At his first start since his 10th in the Victoria Derby, Orca finished an unlucky seventh over 1200 metres to Centennial Park at Rosehill on February 7.

He put in an encouraging effort on a wet track two weeks later when fourth to O'Lonhro over 1500 metres, less than a length from the winner.

Orca's stablemate Rocha will follow the stakes races towards the AJC Australian Oaks with the fillies Classic opened up due to the career-threatening injury to Samantha Miss.

Rocha, who like Orca is raced by former New Zealand Test cricketer Terry Jarvis, will run in Saturday's Surround Stakes (1400m) which attracted 25 entries.

The slow track at Randwick for the Light Fingers Stakes on February 14 was not to Rocha's liking and Walter said he expected better on a firmer surface.

Rocha won the Wakeful Stakes (2000m) at Flemington on November 1 and was a fair fifth to Samantha Miss in the Oaks after having to work hard from a wide barrier.

Quality mare Bernicia was another who struck form in Melbourne, winning the Listed Summoned Stakes (1500m), and she will race in Saturday's Wiggle Quality (1400m).

At her first start since her Melbourne win, Bernicia ran fourth in the Breeders Classic (1200m) won by Hot Danish who is also entered for the Wiggle.

Walter, who trained Tie The Knot to win a record four Chipping Norton Stakes, won't have a runner in the feature on Saturday but is still hoping for a Group One victory on the day.

He will take Salinger Stakes runner-up Fighting Fund back to the Flemington straight course in the hopes of causing an upset in the Group One Newmarket Handicap (1200m).

"He has a great first-up record and I think it looks like an ideal race for him," he said.

Fighting Fund has won three from six first-up and is a $41 chance ahead of Wednesday's declaration of the final field and barrier draw.
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2009-Mar-04, 02:38 PM

Oh brother !

The best stayer will win the AJC Derby. As he proved last spring, there is no doubt Rebel Raider is Australia's premier staying 3YO .....
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2009-Mar-04, 02:39 PM

Are they going to stuff him up running him all these short course events.
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2009-Mar-13, 04:29 PM

Win  2009 AJC AUST DERBY (ALL IN)
Select the winner.
No.  Description  Win  Place
38109

CAYMANS

$5.50

$2.12
38113

DEFINITIVE

$6.50

$2.37
38108

BUFFETT

$9.00

$3.00
38140

PRE EMINENCE

$9.00

$3.00
38142

PREDATORY PRICER

$9.00

$3.00
38115

DR DOUTES

$13.00

$4.00
38121

GALLICA

$13.00

$4.00
38144

REBEL RAIDER

$13.00

$4.00
38152

SOUSA

$13.00

$4.00
38166

ZAPURPLE

$13.00

$4.00
38117

EXCELLTASTIC

$17.00

$5.00
38136

ORCA

$17.00

$5.00
38138

PALACIO DE CRISTAL

$17.00

$5.00
38145

RHYNO CHASER

$17.00

$5.00
38149

ROMAN EMPEROR

$17.00

$5.00
38114

DOWN THE ROAD

$21.00

$6.00
38128

METAL BENDER

$21.00

$6.00
38155

STOKEHOUSE

$26.00

$7.25
38161

TOBIQUE

$26.00

$7.25
38164

YOUTHFUL JACK

$26.00

$7.25
38110

CONISTON BLUEBIRD

$31.00

$8.50
38122

GIGINO

$31.00

$8.50
38157

TELL A TALE

$31.00

$8.50
38123

GLOWLAMP

$41.00

$11.00
38143

PURPLE

$41.00

$11.00
38104

BERLIOZ

$51.00

$13.50
38124

HARRIS TWEED

$51.00

$13.50
38147

ROCK KINGDOM

$51.00

$13.50
38102

ALLEZ WONDER

$61.00

$16.00
38103

ASTRO GAINS

$61.00

$16.00
38119

FIGHT AND DEFEND

$61.00

$16.00
38158

THE ASTRONOMER

$61.00

$16.00
38163

WILLY JIMMY

$81.00

$21.00
38101

AIGLON

$101.00

$26.00
38106

BONDARCHUK

$101.00

$26.00
38111

COUBERTIN

$101.00

$26.00
38118

FEARS NOTHING

$101.00

$26.00
38126

LORD PINDARI

$101.00

$26.00
38132

MULTAHB

$101.00

$26.00
38135

OLD JOCK

$101.00

$26.00
38137

OVER THE WICKET

$101.00

$26.00
38139

PENTIRE POINT

$101.00

$26.00
38141

PRECEDENCE

$101.00

$26.00
38151

SNOW ALERT

$101.00

$26.00
38153

ST IVES

$101.00

$26.00
38156

TAN TAT DANCER

$101.00

$26.00
38160

THINK MONEY

$101.00

$26.00
38116

EMOTIONAL OUTBURST

$151.00

$38.50
38125

HINT

$151.00

$38.50
38133

MUSICAL HIT

$151.00

$38.50
38134

NAVAL ESCORT

$151.00

$38.50
38146

RICH ENDOWMENT

$151.00

$38.50
38150

SMART CHOICE

$151.00

$38.50
38159

THE ZEEBAC

$151.00

$38.50
38162

TOGHA

$151.00

$38.50
38105

BIG SAI WAN

$201.00

$51.00
38107

BUCCANEERS PRIZE

$201.00

$51.00
38120

FRERE DAN

$201.00

$51.00
38127

MATEO

$201.00

$51.00
38129

MOCHA COFFEE

$201.00

$51.00
38154

STANLEYS DEED

$201.00

$51.00
38165

ZANABAA

$201.00

$51.00
38112

DAWNFIRE DANCER

$301.00

$76.00
38130

MOTIVE

$301.00

$76.00
38131

MOUNT EARNSLAW

$301.00

$76.00
38148

ROCK TO EXCESS

$301.00

$76.00
All In Betting
Closing Time: 11th Apr 2009 5:00 pm
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2009-Mar-13, 04:34 PM

gee suprised so many in front of rebel raider ?
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2009-Mar-13, 05:02 PM

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2009-Mar-13, 10:36 PM

Where is this market from ?
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2009-Mar-14, 06:48 AM

Where is this market from ?



NSW TAB fixed odds
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2009-Mar-14, 08:36 AM

Who follows the NSW provincials? How much promise is Willy Jimmy showing?
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2009-Mar-14, 06:27 PM

gee suprised so many in front of rebel raider ?


Why?  What price do reckon it would be if it had been scratched and not run in the Vic Derby?
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2009-Mar-15, 09:21 AM

what's that got to do with anything? it ran - 100/1 after yesterday though

denham's two into melito/real saga will pay
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2009-Mar-18, 11:35 AM

Can't believe Caymans is so short in the market. He looks like dozens of other horses this stable has had who are assumed to be stayers as young horses because they run on but end up best in fast run mile races. He looks a classic example.

I'd be surprised if Sousa isn't their best Derby horse.
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2009-Mar-18, 12:23 PM

I don't think the stable would rate Caymans ahead of Sousa either.

Whether they have anything upto Derby standard is probably a bigger question.
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2009-Mar-18, 12:27 PM

Who follows the NSW provincials? How much promise is Willy Jimmy showing?



has to step up to city class,but looks as if he will get the trip,and hes from a good yard
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