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Just looking at the market for the first race from Sandown, seems odd not updated ?

It says its updated......

Moderators are more than welcome to move this thread to any of the other myriad of tab whinging threads. 

what i need to know is....what has happened to the display of the daily double POOL SIZE progress before the first leg for ALL MEETINGS ??? it hasn't been there for almost a week now, it has on display under the win odds everything bar the dd, even tells you there's $26 in the duet pool, i mean who gives a flying   about the duet pool ? this is happening on both VICT and NSW websites, and the operators on phone-tab priority are either unable or dont know where to access the same info...what's the go...why aren't punters told whether there's $100 or $5000 in the daily double pool...why the secrecy ????????????

IT MATTERS VERY MUCH 

Ever since the introduction of  the BIG 6 their website and / or computers have been in trouble.

A. No DD approximate pools

B. No win and place odds on the  first race at Sandown yesterday

C. Debacle with punters getting on those three races last Saturday "after the ball"

D. Slow updates throughout each Saturday until 3 or 4 legs of the BIG 6 have been run .

BTW when Tabcorp took over the NSW TAB punters were promised "there would be no down grading of the old NSW TAB website"... what a joke..where are the grids for the TAB DD  and quadrella , which were features of the old site ?

When Tabcorp took over the old NSW TAB they did a better job on punters than any Snake Oil Salesman ever did on a naive blind housewife in Dimboola.
 

Typical of the TAB to whinge when they have been taken by smarties. They will never cough when they have taken advantage of people's stupidity. Article from DT.

Punters cash in on attackArticle from: Font size: Decrease Increase Email article: Email Print article: Print Submit comment: Submit comment By Tom Smithies

March 04, 2009 12:00am

CALLOUS punters in Australia look set to profit from the terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore after opportunistically betting almost $20,000 on their Test match against Pakistan being declared a draw.

Amid initial confusion over the shootings, TAB Sportsbet reported a rash of bets from Tasmania and the ACT as news began to filter through.

With almost no interest in the game from Australian punters until yesterday afternoon, the market was suspended after the betting surge sparked internal alarms at TAB, but only once several four-figure bets had been laid.

Last night ICC spokesman James Fitzgerald told The Daily Telegraph he thought the game would be declared "abandoned as a draw'' - meaning the TAB would have to pay out.

TAB media manager Glenn Munsie said the body would wait for official clarification of the result but confirmed it would pay out if the ICC opted to call the result a draw.

Munsie said bets were taken of $8300 at $1.30, and $8900 and $2000 at $1.28 - "then they started to try and take $1.20 for

I maybe a critic of Tabcorp, but surely they would not be liable to pay on a draw. The match was abandoned not drawn. All bets off...no ball was ever bowled.

It might be interesting if a race meeting, on which they conduct a Jockeys Challenge,  is abandoned after one race. Will they pay on the rider who won the first race  ?  Is it in the rules of that bet type ?

Bubba, the game was 2 days old, and a draw was a short priced favourite

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As the game had commenced that changes my reasoning. I did not realise the game had commenced.If it had been rained out they would have been liable to pay but abandonment may not be in their betting rules, if it is treated as a draw all bets placed prior to the shootings should be honoured and those place after the shooting refunded...like Saturdays' "after the ball races"

Jeunes - where in that article does munsie have a whinge ?- he just states the facts that the draw was backed and that TAB would pay if was called a draw.

Vo - whats the issue - are some DD pools not being showm any more? Can you send an example the next meeting you notice this as they all seem to be ok for the ones I've looked at

Bubba - I don't see the issue with daily doubles approximates - on what events is this happening? There has been some problems lately but don't think it's related to the BIG6 as that was brought in to their system last spring, think it may be some more recent things.

As always - best wishes PW

 there is a difference bubba,the races had been run and won,the tabs obviously knew of the shootings as well as the punters,they had opportunity to suspend said markets,but didn't

I just had a look at Sportsbet results and they haven't got a result for the head to head, so I guess they just canned that market and refunded all investments.

Praiseworthy

When NSW TAB was taken over by Tabcorp there was a Daily Double Grid ( as the quinella is presently shown ) showing what each DD combination was paying. For example 1&1 $15 : 1&2 $33 : 4&6 $ 42 etc.

What Tabcorp presently show as "their DD Grid"  is simply the win odds for each runner in each leg of the DD, which is already available to any punter who opens up any race for the approximate odds.

If No 1 in the first leg is $ 5 & No 1 in the second leg is $5 it does not mean the DD will pay the multiple of those odds ($25). The actual double for that combination could be $16 or $17 or $35.The win pool in each leg is nothing more than the win pool . The DD pool stands alone. If Tabcorp thinks the win odds are a sufficent guide for DD takers  it just shows how little they understand their own products and the needs of punters.

Praiseworthy,

Why would the tab report the wagers? They rarely list wagers which they win huge amounts of people's stupidity. For example I remember when Johnsy used to play for knights, the opposition would be heavily backed if Johns pulled out a few hrs before the game. The TAB would never advertise that Johns was out so the poor unsuspecting punter who thinks Johns is playing loses his dough as a result. Now the TAB was taken in by the smarties on this test so they publicise the fact that punters got on the draw after what happened? Why is the question because the article said the "TAB Sportsbet reported a rash of bets from Tasmania and the ACT as news began to filter through".

Thanks Bubba - I misunderstood you - I thought you meant the double approximates page wasn't working.

The 'trends' grid the NSW TAB used to show for some multis is a different matter - and one I do understand your frustration over.