Racehorse TALK

Why is it if you pull a horse or not ride it out fully etc, you get less of a suspension than a positive test for a recreational drug. I know what most punters would think the worse offence. I can understand if you are riding in a race or barrier trials and get busted for being over a certain limit. However the fact is I know people who test people who work in emergency services etc, recreational drugs stay longer in the system than hard drugs. Thus depending on the metabolism of your body, you could still be positive weeks after you use it even though you pose no danger to anyone else. It is the residue effect.   

  Good Point J,HOWEVER with the lenght of penalty given he must of had
a hard drug in him, Bloody shame as that boy has been ridding well in the prov, & had
just returned from like 14 months off from injury, i don't no wether to feel sorry for him
or to shake my head

spot on jeunes,pulling a horse is defrauding punters of 100s of thousands,go and steal a couple of hundred thousand,and see if the judge treats you lightly.
i remember when c.newitt got 18 months over the leonie chiara affair,not for pulling it up,no he was cleared of that charge,but for telling lies to the stewards,dikhead should've just pleaded guilty to pulling it up,would've got 3-6 months.that shows what the stewards think about the punter,pull one up on the punter you get 3-6 months,LIE TO US  and its 18 months,what a joke,shows what the stewards think of the punter,who BTW is the lifeblood of the industry,compared to themselves

C Newitt was NEVER charged with pulling a horse up, so how can you plead guilty to something you are not charged with hey......just your assumption DaJudge

and jeunes. what's the difference between hard drugs and recreational drugs....don't bother to reply as the answer is NONE,  no difference..............they are banned substances

were they looking at charging him with that ITK,i'm aware he wasn't charged FFS,just showing how crazy the penalty for telling lies to stewards as compared to pulling one

bit like what happened to S Beasley after he told lies , hence the much harsher penalty

so you agree then,telling lies to stewards is worse than pulling one?

also the bookies penalty wasn't that he told lies,he was found guilty of a wrongdoings as well,so its nothing like the newitt case

must agree to disagree re the simliarity, he got caught, destroyed evidence and LIED

so you're saying his penalty was for telling lies only?

NO that is not what I'm sayin, I'm saying stewards don't take too kindly to lies & get pissed off after soemoen has clearly been caught out and generally enforce a harsher penalty

but the whole point i was trying to make was,pulling one up,is a far worse crime than telling lies to stewards,but they regard lies to them 3 to 6 times worse

In the know, I am not supporting drug use, far from it. I think it is a blight on our society and has a lot of flow on effects including families and friends etc. I work in a company that tries to fix people's lives from various issues including drugs etc. But my point is that occasional recreational drug usage such as marijuana etc is not in the same league as cocaine or heroin etc. The courts even rule as such. I think any drug usage is harmful. Alcohol is the same, moderation is seen as a good thing by doctors but people binge drink. Of alcohol and marijuana abuse, most doctors will agree alcohol is worse. The difference is the legality.

However another point is stewards think telling lies to them is a worse penalty than actually commiting the deed. That I disagree with. If you lie to the police, you don't get you sentence doubled or tripled. Mind you, if we did that our society as a whole might improve.    

there it is again,complete fkn morons are stewards