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Author Topic: Coolmore Announce Fees for 2009 Season  (Read 994 times)
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Original Post 2009-Apr-29, 04:02 PM

Coolmore Australia is proud to announce the addition of two exciting young horses to our roster for the 2009 Australasian Breeding Season.

Henrythenavigator is a blisteringly fast Champion son of Kingmambo, making him a sensational proposition for Danehill-line mares. Joining him is Duke Of Marmalade, the dominant racehorse of the 2008 European season and a son of legendary
Danehill from a family brimming with sire power. We have great expectations of this pair.

These young horses join our roster to embellish what is already a very strong line-up.

The progeny of Champion Sire Encosta De Lago continue to enjoy unrivalled success on the race track. He has consistently proven himself the best sire in Australasia.

Our young speedster Fastnet Rock has this season taken the first steps toward emulating his own sire Danehill and with nine stakes horses from his first runners (making one in every three starters a stakes horse), has given every indication that he is capable of doing so.

Aussie Rules, Dylan Thomas, Holy Roman Emperor and Oratorio are among the best performed sons of Danehill on the racetrack and offer abundant promise of being the next generation of his great sire sons.

Danehill Dancer has time and time again shown himself to be the best performing international sire son of Danehill and has once again enjoyed an enviable year with his progeny, who have claimed 12 stakes wins during the season so far. His competitors can’t beat that!

Champion racehorse Haradasun was received with great enthusiasm by breeders in his first season at stud and we look forward with great expectations for his first foals in the Spring. As we do with Pivotal’s son Excellent Art, whose first European foals have enjoyed rave reviews from breeders.

The stock of Choisir, Dehere, Rock Of Gibraltar, Royal Academy, Spinning World and Tale Of The Cat continue to prove themselves a success on the track and in the sales ring, while Tale Of The Cat’s young sire son Lion Heart has made an encouraging start with his first runners in Australasia.

Market forces dictate that breeders must be more prudent than ever in their breeding decisions.

Be it your desire to breed a champion racehorse or to achieve outstanding return on investment during the 2012 yearling sales series, the team at Coolmore are focused on your success.

New for 2009

DUKE OF MARMALADE (IRE)
Danehill - Love Me True (Kingmambo)
$33,000

HENRYTHENAVIGATOR (USA)
Kingmambo - Sequoyah (Sadler’s Wells)
$38,500

Also proven favourites (with 2008 fees in brackets)

AUSSIE RULES (IRE)
Danehill - Last Second (Alzao)
$8,800 ($16,500)

CHOISIR
Danehill Dancer - Great Selection (Lunchtime)
$35,750 ($33,000)

DANEHILL DANCER (IRE)
Danehill - Mira Adonde (Sharpen Up)
$88,000 ($110,000)

DEHERE (USA)
Deputy Minister - Sister Dot (Secretariat)
$33,000 ($44,000)

DYLAN THOMAS (IRE)
Danehill - Lagrion (Diesis)
$30,250 ($44,000)

ENCOSTA DE LAGO
Fairy King - Shoal Creek (Star Way)
$220,000 ($302,500)

EXCELLENT ART (GB)
Pivotal - Obsessive (Seeking The Gold)
$19,250 ($24,750)

FASTNET ROCK
Danehill - Piccadilly Circus (Royal Academy)
$60,500 ($82,500)

HARADASUN
Fusaichi Pegasus - Circles Of Gold (Marscay)
$35,750 ($55,000)

HOLY ROMAN EMPEROR (IRE)
Danehill - L’On Vite (Secretariat)
$35,750 ($44,000)

LION HEART (USA)
Tale Of The Cat - Satin Sunrise (Mr. Leader)
$11,000 ($16,500)

ORATORIO (IRE)
Danehill - Mahrah (Vaguely Noble)
$22,000 ($27,500)

ROCK OF GIBRALTAR (IRE)
Danehill - Offshore Boom (Be My Guest)
$55,000 (82,500)

ROYAL ACADEMY (USA)
Nijinsky - Crimson Saint (Crimson Satan)
$27,500 ($27,500)

SPINNING WORLD (USA)
Nureyev - Imperfect Circle (Riverman)
$8,800 ($11,000)

TALE OF THE CAT (USA)
Storm Cat - Yarn (Mr. Prospector)
$38,500 ($33,000)

Coolmore Stud Media Release Published 29/04/09
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2009-May-24, 04:44 PM

Hi there.  I'm new to the forum.
Thanks for posting these fees.  I have to say it doesn't do much for my confidence at ever having a share in a decent horse.  I can't afford anything with a good bloodline and I'm just not that lucky!
I heard there's a guy challenging the rule against artifficial insemination.  If he wins his court case what impact do you think it will have on prices and ultimate quality of yearlings after a few years?
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2009-May-24, 04:48 PM

its bruce mchugh the former bookie & stc director who is challenging it
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2009-May-24, 04:51 PM

Court Challenge To Stud Book AI Ban
Former Sydney Turf Club chairman Bruce McHugh "has revealed plans to mount a legal challenge against the effective ban on artificial insemination of thoroughbred horses in Australia," reported The Sydney Morning Herald. McHugh "has engaged solicitors to prepare court action against the Australian Stud Book - the effective controlling body of thoroughbred breeding - to force it to accept horses bred by artificial insemination". Stud Books around the thoroughbred racing world "have retained a united front against AI, refusing to sanction its use, although the practice is allowed with virtually all other horse breeds". McHugh "believes the refusal to register horses bred by AI or their progeny is a restraint of trade" & declared: "I've been in racing all my life, I've looked at this from every possible angle & the only thing I can see against it is the fact that the major studs see an advantage in not introducing it. I wouldn't be doing it unless I was confident I could get the result I require & I will go down that path until someone can explain to me in simple terms why it's not good for the industry." (Mar 24)

McHugh Also Takes Complaint To Racing NSW
Bruce McHugh "has also taken his case" to change the ban on artificial insemination to Racing NSW. Chief executive Peter V'Landys noted the board's power "was limited" & told The Sydney Morning Herald: "It would require an Australia-wide decision & extensive consultation with all facets of the racing industry. But our board will certainly consider the matter, because of the respect for Bruce McHugh. We are very aware that our breeders are very much against it. There's a lot of support for it, but a lot against; so we have to balance it to see what's the best for the industry as a whole." (Mar 24)

Stud Book Warns Breeder Levy Will Follow
Keeper Of The Australian Stud Book Michael Ford warned that, said if a legal challenge to the ban on artificial insemination was made, the Stud Book "might be forced to levy breeders to create a fund to defend the provisions." Ford told The Sydney Morning Herald that the international Stud Books were "resolutely opposed to allowing AI" & warned Australian breeders & owners "would find themselves in dangerous waters if they were to change the status quo unilaterally". He emphasised: "It would be dangerous for Australia to go alone & definitely foolish, because any horse bred that way wouldn't be accepted, their progeny wouldn't be accepted & you wouldn't be able to export them. Some countries might even take affront & say we're not even going to let you export horses to Australia. Internationally, it would be disastrous." (Mar 24)

McHugh Plan To Halve Stallion Fees
Bruce McHugh "plans to buy a high-quality young stallion for $3 million to $4 million," revealed The Sydney Morning Herald. "But instead of standing him at stud & having him personally cover 100 mares (at a price between $15,000 & $20,000) McHugh believes many more mares could be covered using AI." He explained: "I'll be charging a fraction of the cost, but I'd be wanting to cover 200 mares." McHugh noted the cost "could be halved" & "also reduced would be the inconvenience of shifting mares around the country, with chilled semen able to be sent to mares within Australia". (Mar 24)
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2009-May-26, 08:58 AM

Why does the thoroghbred industry want to live in the dark ages and keep the ban on AI??
Being in the harnes world this is the norm and gives access to any stallion whether here, NZ or USA.
Surely the Oz breeding industry is strong enough for this to become norm.


An interesting debate  Undecided

I know what the positives are for AI, but what are the positives for keeping it how it is  what

I am probably a bit ignorant when it comes to this side of things, so go easy on me  tongue
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2009-May-26, 09:18 AM

I'd imagine the major concerns for owners at the "Top End" market would be concerned about "over supply" of the blue blood....If availability of AI of a certain breed was open slather this could produce too much of a good thing and must surely effect the breed gene pools somewhere down the track.

Scientifically I don't know what the overall outcome for the future industry would be but do we want all our horses bred from just the top of the range breeding pool.

The bread and butter side of the industry would die a natural death and this could be to the detriment of the majority of owners and trainers that can't afford the top end range of the market.
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2009-May-29, 02:52 PM

6th Aust Winner For Freshman Sire Lion Heart
Multiple Gr1-winning Coolmore shuttler Lion Heart (Tale Of The Cat-Satin Sunrise, by Mr Leader) recorded his 6th Australian winner when 2YO gelding African Lion (Lion Heart-Imposed, by Rory's Jester) scored by 3.5-lengths on debut over 1350m at Doomben in Brisbane yesterday for trainer Bruce Hill. African Lion was a $90,000 yearling consigned from Alanbridge Stud at the 2008 Magic Millions Gold Coast Sale. (May 29)
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2009-Jun-01, 04:33 PM

The AI Debate

Story By Rachel Pagones, Racing Post

Monday, 1 June 2009: Artificial Insemination and the question of whether or not to implement it seems to be an ongoing debate in the thoroughbred world. Rachel Pagones penned the following article for the UK Racing Post late last week.

WHY WE SHOULD OPEN THE DOOR, NOT SLAM IT SHUT

I FELT like I was in paradise the other day. Beautiful, ethereal creatures were flying all around me, the air was warm and inviting, but elsewhere London dripped with a cold spring rain.

It was clearly a fecund heaven, as life was proliferating in all its stages. None of the adults cared, either, as their children watched sex and birth in surprising measures taking place almost literally under their noses.

All right, these were not angels getting it on - it was Butterfly Jungle, a temporary exhibit at the Natural History Museum in London, filled with butterflies, moths and children from all over the world. The flying creatures had been shipped in chrysalis form (if only we could do that with the kids), but once in their heated new habitat, they were happy to mate and pupate all on their own. A glass box filled with chrysalises that hatches around 40 new butterflies per day testified to the success of the environment as a breeding ground.

Butterflies have their problems in the wild, but they do take well to breeding in captivity. If only it were so easy with horses. Breeding is all important to the thoroughbred enterprise, and we have made it the most unnatural experience you can imagine; which is funny, because there is a rigid stipulation in the rules that thoroughbreds must mate "naturally" if their offspring are to be eligible for racing.

Just about the only natural thing left about a thoroughbred mating is how the sperm gets to the ovum, although this can be helped along legitimately with 'reinforcement' - not a terribly natural-sounding process.

But one of the most unnatural aspects of breeding is how often we require stallions to do it; as all in the business know, young and popular sires may be mated three or four times per day, more or less round the clock in order to service their big books in the three and a half months allotted to meet industry demand for an early foal.

Maybe it's just coincidence, but this year there seems to have been a spate of young stallions who aren't taking to the rigorous regime. And there is scientific evidence the effect of large books is negatively affecting overall conception rates, says Twink Allen, formerly head of the former Equine Fertility Unit in Newmarket, and still active in retirement at hisown lab in nearby Cheveley.

Allen has been raising hackles in the breeding establishment for some time with his calls for artificial breeding technologies, such as AI and embryo transfer, to be introduced in a limited way to thoroughbred breeding.

He is now renewing that call, and as he points out in a letter sent widely to British breeders today, there are already numerous artificial technologies - he names nine, including "[application of] Regumate and othersynthetic progestagens to mimic dioestrus, suppress oestrous behaviour, induce follicular development and supplement the mare's own progesterone levels during pregnancy", and "immunisation with stallion white blood cells to prevent repeated early abortion in immunologically deficient mares" - used to help conception along.

With the economy stuck in the doldrums, at best, and the anticipated backlash against heedless overproduction, it seems the breeding industry would welcome the chance to discuss ways of making the process more efficient.

Yet there have recently been two major breeding industry get-togethers, the European Federation of Thoroughbred Breeders' Associations meeting and the International Breeders' Meeting, and no word on the issue has emerged from those quarters.

It seems about time Allen's views at least got an open hearing and debate, rather than the slammed door treatment.

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2009-Jun-01, 08:52 PM

I imagine AI would definately reduce the gene pool of the thoroughbred.

One thing that I have been trying to find out, and have looked around a fair bit for,is how long does the semen last once it is frozen. Could it be possible to breed a Lonhro mare in say year 2150 with the semen of a Lohnro grandson? Could Redoutes Choice still be serving mares in 2150, some of them his great granddaughters?

Also, just how much semen is allowed to be taken from any individual stallion without flooding the gene pool with his genes?

Some horses have shown in the past to be vulnarible to some viruses, and not so vulnarible to others. If the gene pool is reduced, then surely it could put the industry in danger of being decimated by desease. Perhaps a strain of EI or such.

A very long legal arguement is sure to happen. Legally there may be a case, but morally there may be another case. Just how much weight does morality have in the legal system?

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2009-Jun-01, 08:59 PM

It could be frozen for a long time Hobbled, but it was pointed out to me when i asked the same question, the horse will in all likelyhood have changed a great deal in a few generations and todays stallions would not or may not suit what is required.
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2009-Jun-01, 09:09 PM

It could be frozen for a long time Hobbled, but it was pointed out to me when i asked the same question, the horse will in all likelyhood have changed a great deal in a few generations and todays stallions would not or may not suit what is required.


Thanks for that.
Makes you wonder why the breeders still try to  get the perfect cross to a breed from the past though.
Pandora's Box eh?
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2009-Jun-01, 09:49 PM

I imagine AI would definately reduce the gene pool of the thoroughbred.





Was the big argument before being brought into the dog game, hasn't materialised to be honest.
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2009-Jun-02, 07:16 PM

I guess that means that the semen use was regulated for dogs.
It would have to for horses too.
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