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Original Post 2009-May-08, 09:59 PM

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With all the talk about the jumps racing prolonging the life of a racehorse (I'don't believe this for a minute), how about investigating Gai Waterhouse.

I was wondering if anyone has any statistics on the percentage of her horses that actually reach
: the age of 4
: the age of 5
: the age of 6
above the age of 6:

I'm sure most of these would be less than 10% (above 6 would be 1-2%) so why isn't anyone investigating her

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2011-Jul-29, 07:05 PM

Interesting news coming out saying majority of established group horses will do all racing in Melbourne. Smart move in sense it's tough to have them performing in both spots but will be shame for Sydney if she isn't well represented in big races.
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2011-Oct-15, 10:45 AM

Gai and Star Thoroughbreds have obviously sacked Brandt as I see he is in new ownership and trained by Kylie Gavenlock,a 210k buy by ST he is by Danzero from our top mare Nina Haraka and wasn't enjoying Gai's style of training the first time she put him back in the field like his mum raced he won well,but Gai insists on her horses running close to the lead so I hope Kylie can change his race pattern and have some success with him. fingers crossed
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2011-Oct-25, 10:59 AM

If anybody can think of a different thread ... like UK bred stayers or something ... by all mean, move this

Just thought was an interesting tidbit on Racenet

we see over a million dollars spent on yearlings with no clue whether they will get to the track or not ... below, even factoring in the big expense of bringing them here, this sure does seem like a much better deal for a horse that WILL race

I think I would be more inclined to join a syndicate in one of these types of horses providing the horse was 4 years old or so ... as opposed to a yearling from a sale ... but certainly not with Gai   lol

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Waterhouse buys Europeans to stay up with the times
Clinton Payne
Tuesday, 25 October 2011

Hall of Fame trainer has joined the likes of Chris Waller and Lloyd Williams in her quest to win a first Melbourne Cup by purchasing European staying prospects from the Tattersall's Horses In Training Sale at Newmarket on Monday.

This year’s Melbourne Cup has been described as the "European Cup” with 19 European-bred gallopers in the top 30 in the latest order of entry.

Waterhouse signed off on two lots on the first day of the sale, purchasing tried gallopers Gencadam Gold and Julienas through European-based agent Johnny McKeever.

Tulloch Lodge representative Bruce Slade was at Newmarket to supervise the purchases.

"European horses have done such a great job in Australia and she wishes to be part of that success too," Slade said.

"These horses are well performed, lightly raced and the right sort for the Cup races.

"Gai has had New Zealand-bred horses before and they are produced in much the same way as European horses are. Her owners were quick to jump on board with this plan."

Glencadam Gold was the first six-figure buy at this year’s sale with Waterhouse paying 135,000gns (approx. $A227,400) for the two-time winning three-year-old son of Refuse To Bend with a Timeform rating of 101.

Glencadam Gold has won two of his seven starts from 1600 metres to 2200 metres.

Julienas cost Waterhouse 75,000gns (approx. $A126,000). The four-year-old gelding by Cape Cross has won three of his 11 starts from 1600 metres to 2000 metres and his biggest win came in the Royal Hunt Cup (1600m) at Ascot.
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2011-Oct-25, 04:22 PM

Saw a little of GAI on ABC news breakfast.....au naturale.....no makeup looked like she shouldda stayed in bed....complaining about race clubs not running enough staying races ...quoted Bris Cup reduced from 3200 to 2400 won by Tullamore which just fell in ....wouldn't have wanted it any further that day ...I was on it.
She was chatting with Tony Abbott........anything to get on the box. stop

Owners want quick returns aren't prepared to wait like the Europeans do and the clubs cater for them.

Still she's taken her time to catch up with the trail blazers and who knows if her training regime will suit the imports.
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2011-Oct-25, 05:05 PM

Fox Sports News are even going to have a report on what Gai has had to say about staying races in Australia.

She is whinging about all the Cup races being shortened.

Why are they being shortened ?

If the trainers had been providing quality 2 milers for the races I am sure the Clubs would have left the races alone.

There must be a reason why the Clubs have shortened their cups, I doubt it was a done for the sake of it.
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2011-Oct-25, 05:40 PM

The TAB can have more races programmed for us to bet on.

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2011-Oct-25, 10:53 PM

173Julienas (IRE) B.G. by Cape Cross (IRE) x Dora Carrington (IRE) 75,000
Consignor: Walter Swinburn Racing Stables — Purchaser: McKeever Bloodstock/Gai Waterhouse Racing
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2011-Oct-25, 10:55 PM

203Glencadam Gold (IRE) B.C. by Refuse To Bend (IRE) x Sandrella (IRE) 135,000
Consignor: Warren Place Stables (Sir Henry Cecil) — Purchaser: McKeever Bloodstock/Gai Waterhouse Racing
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2011-Oct-26, 12:22 AM

http://www1.skysports.com/racing/form-profiles/horse/482552/julienas

http://www1.skysports.com/racing/form-profiles/horse/542453/glencadam-gold

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2011-Oct-26, 08:16 AM

750Tenby Lady (USA) B.F. by Anabaa (USA) x Bluebird Day (IRE) 130,000
Consignor: Heath House Stables (Sir Mark Prescott, Bt.) — Purchaser: McKeever Bloodstock/Gai Waterhouse Racing
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2011-Oct-27, 12:34 AM

1036Galiando (GB) B.C. by Galileo (IRE) x Nando's Dream (GB) 125,000
Consignor: Shalfleet Stables (J. Noseda) — Purchaser: McKeever Bloodstock/Gai Waterhouse Racing
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2011-Oct-27, 12:50 AM

1045Monopolize (GB) B.C. by Oasis Dream (GB) x Modesta (IRE) Update60,000
Consignor: Juddmonte Farms — Purchaser: McKeever Bloodstock/Gai Waterhouse Racing
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2012-Mar-06, 01:19 AM

Gai Waterhouse going the distance to win Melbourne Cup


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Trainer Gai Waterhouse with (left to right) horses Galiando, Monopolize and Julienas. Picture: Gregg Porteous Source: Herald Sun

GAI Waterhouse has joined the European staying revolution in an attempt to at last win a Melbourne Cup.

Waterhouse travelled halfway around the world and spent about $1 million on four English racehorses she believes can develop into leading Cup chances.

It's the first time Waterhouse has ventured to Europe to find a staying horse.

But with seven of the past 10 Melbourne Cup winners being bred in the northern hemisphere, Waterhouse said she could no longer ignore the odds.

At her Tulloch Lodge stables near Randwick racecourse yesterday, Waterhouse revealed her recruits: Galiando, Glencadam Gold, Monopolize and Julienas.

Waterhouse, who has come close to winning the Melbourne Cup with second placegetters Te Akau Nick (1993) and Nothin' Leica Dane (1995), said her reasons for going overseas were simple.

"The European stayers are much better than ours," she said.

"We went to the sales in England late last year with one purpose: to buy a Melbourne Cup winner.

"The four we purchased are all very promising, well-bred young horses with a lot of scope."

Waterhouse wasn't making a sales pitch. She has already syndicated the four stayers to a group of 30 stable clients.

The quartet are all lightly raced, stoutly bred, rising five-year-olds who have been in light work since arriving in Sydney in January.

Waterhouse is following a growing trend in Australian racing. More and more trainers are travelling overseas to find potential Cups contenders.

Chris Waller is a pioneer of the European experiment and has dominated Sydney staying races in recent years with imports such as Stand To Gain, Hawk Island and My Kingdom Of Fife.

Waterhouse's husband, leading Sydney bookmaker Robbie, examined more than 200 European stayers before making their purchases.

It's a formula the trainer has used to buy many emerging New Zealand stayers, including her 2010 Caulfield Cup winner Descarado, Herculian Prince and Tullamore.

"We looked at those English horses that were rated to win at Listed level here and that were young and lightly raced, which left us with about 60 to choose from," Robbie Waterhouse said.

"Then we watched race replays to see if their action was good and that wiped out many of them.

"Given the strength of the Australian dollar, Gai was able to buy these four horses for about a third of the price you would have had to pay three years ago."

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2012-Mar-06, 01:23 AM

750Tenby Lady (USA) B.F. by Anabaa (USA) x Bluebird Day (IRE) 130,000
Consignor: Heath House Stables (Sir Mark Prescott, Bt.) — Purchaser: McKeever Bloodstock/Gai Waterhouse Racing


Wonder what has happened to this filly ?
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2012-Mar-06, 10:40 AM

Monopolize.

The okay to use that name must be right on the cusp.
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